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Revision as of 18:37, 8 January 2009


A work by author: Richard Abanes

Nauvoo police violence

The Quotes

One Nation under Gods, page XXXX (hardback)

CLAIM

One Nation under Gods, page 211 (paperback)

  • The Nauvoo police committed "many murders, vicious beatings, and intimidating assults" against "perceived enemies of the church."

The References

Endnote 15, page 479 (hardback)

REFERENCE

Endnote 31-34, page 549(paperback)

The Problem

The author again claims much more than his sources report.

Quinn

  • Nothing on Quinn, 151 supports this claim: it speaks only of
    • Orrin Porter Rockwell's desire (not carried out) to kill apostate Robert D. Foster
    • Allen Stout's report that he would not let Joseph and Hyrum's murders go unavenged
    • Stephen Markham's desire to avenge Joseph's murders

Allen Stout

  • Allen Stout's journal is cited by Quinn, see above

Hosea Stout

  • Hosea Stout's journal

Further reading

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