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* Government records indicate that Brigham Young, Willard Richards, Parley Pratt, and Orson Hyde were involved in making counterfeit coins. This may have "started under Joseph's leadership." | * Government records indicate that Brigham Young, Willard Richards, Parley Pratt, and Orson Hyde were involved in making counterfeit coins. This may have "started under Joseph's leadership." | ||
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* On page 127, Quinn mentions three men who either passed counterfeit money or who were accused of counterfeiting—yet, two are ''non''-Mormons, and the third was criticized by Hyrum Smith for this practice after his eventual apostasy. | * On page 127, Quinn mentions three men who either passed counterfeit money or who were accused of counterfeiting—yet, two are ''non''-Mormons, and the third was criticized by Hyrum Smith for this practice after his eventual apostasy. | ||
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:The grand jury of the United States district court of Springfield, Illinois, in January 1846, issued twelve indictments against prominent Church leaders for counterfeiting United States coin. [''Niles' National Register'', January 3, 1846.] This action was generally thought to be a ploy on the part of the government to make certain that the Saints would keep their promise to leave Nauvoo in the spring. Church leaders issued a circular in which they denied the charge of counterfeiting. They reiterated that they expected the migration to begin early in March. [''Missouri Reporter'', February 5, 1846.] They then went into hiding and refused to give themselves up for trial.{{ref|godfrey.1}} | :The grand jury of the United States district court of Springfield, Illinois, in January 1846, issued twelve indictments against prominent Church leaders for counterfeiting United States coin. [''Niles' National Register'', January 3, 1846.] This action was generally thought to be a ploy on the part of the government to make certain that the Saints would keep their promise to leave Nauvoo in the spring. Church leaders issued a circular in which they denied the charge of counterfeiting. They reiterated that they expected the migration to begin early in March. [''Missouri Reporter'', February 5, 1846.] They then went into hiding and refused to give themselves up for trial.{{ref|godfrey.1}} | ||
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Contents
Counterfeiting apostles and Joseph?
| Whistling and Whittling Brigades | A FAIR Analysis of: One Nation Under Gods A work by author: Richard Abanes
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Brigham, the Dictator |
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One Nation under Gods, page 216-217 (hardback and paperback)
- Government records indicate that Brigham Young, Willard Richards, Parley Pratt, and Orson Hyde were involved in making counterfeit coins. This may have "started under Joseph's leadership."
Author's Sources
Endnote 62-65, page 552 (hardback); page 550 (paperback)
- Jerald and Sandra Tanner, The Mormon Kingdom, vol. 2, 51-64.
- D. Michael Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power (Signature Books, 1994), 127, 650-651.
- Warsaw Signal, June 5, 1844.
- St Louis American, December 2, 1845.
Answer
Thus, there are no "government records" which prove that the apostles "were involved in making counterfeit coins." At best, there is an indictment from a local grand jury, but an indictment is not proof—and, it is unlikely that indictment was anything but a ploy to make sure the Mormons left.
Detailed Analysis
- On page 127, Quinn mentions three men who either passed counterfeit money or who were accused of counterfeiting—yet, two are non-Mormons, and the third was criticized by Hyrum Smith for this practice after his eventual apostasy.
- On pages 650-651, Quinn mentions two items that relate to counterfeiting:
- 24 Mar. [1845] A disaffected Mormon writes that Theodore Turley, of the Council of Fifty, has prepared a press in Nauvoo for counterfeiting, and that Turley gave the man a counterfeit $5.00 bill. [650]
- 4 June. [1845] Young and Kimball learn that Warren Snow and Dominicus Carter have been jailed in Quincy, Illinois, for passing counterfeit money. Bishop Joseph L. Heywood confirms that they are guilty. In Utah Snow would become a bishop and Carter a member of a stake presidency. [651]
None of this associates Joseph Smith (or any of the named apostles) with approving or conducting counterfeiting in any way. That Snow and Carter later held church leadership positions says nothing about official sanction for their actions in Nauvoo—repentance is a firm tenet of the Church.
What of the apostles?
The "government documents" to which the author refers (via the Tanners) date from 1846:
- The grand jury of the United States district court of Springfield, Illinois, in January 1846, issued twelve indictments against prominent Church leaders for counterfeiting United States coin. [Niles' National Register, January 3, 1846.] This action was generally thought to be a ploy on the part of the government to make certain that the Saints would keep their promise to leave Nauvoo in the spring. Church leaders issued a circular in which they denied the charge of counterfeiting. They reiterated that they expected the migration to begin early in March. [Missouri Reporter, February 5, 1846.] They then went into hiding and refused to give themselves up for trial.[1]