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===''One Nation under Gods'', page 270 (hardback and paperback)=== | ===''One Nation under Gods'', page 270 (hardback and paperback)=== | ||
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− | + | The Saints saw the Civil War: | |
+ | * as prophesied by Joseph Smith | ||
+ | * as God's just punishment for the nation who had allowed them to be repeatedly driven and dispossessed without protecting their freedom of religion or property | ||
+ | * as poetic justice for those who had appealed to states' rights to allow the persecution of the Saints to go unredressed. | ||
+ | * as a consequence of wickedness among the American nation, and the spirit of the Lord being withdrawn from striving with them. | ||
+ | * as a sad and tragic event which they had sought to change, but which could not be averted because of a refusal for the nation to heed ample prophetic warnings given over an extended period. | ||
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:The war now raging in our nation is in the providence of God, and was told us years and years ago by the Prophet Joseph; and what we are now coming to was foreseen by him, and no power can hinder . . . '''It is distressing to see the condition our nation is in, but I cannot help it'''. Who can? The people en masse, by turning to God, and ceasing to do wickedly, ceasing to persecute the honest and the truth-lover. If they had done that thirty years ago, it would have been better for them to-day. When we appealed to the government of our nation for justice, the answer was:—"Your cause is just, but we have no power." Did not Joseph Smith tell them in Washington and Philadelphia, that the time would come when their State rights would be trampled upon? (Brigham Young, May 15, 1864. Journal of Discourses 10:294, 295) | :The war now raging in our nation is in the providence of God, and was told us years and years ago by the Prophet Joseph; and what we are now coming to was foreseen by him, and no power can hinder . . . '''It is distressing to see the condition our nation is in, but I cannot help it'''. Who can? The people en masse, by turning to God, and ceasing to do wickedly, ceasing to persecute the honest and the truth-lover. If they had done that thirty years ago, it would have been better for them to-day. When we appealed to the government of our nation for justice, the answer was:—"Your cause is just, but we have no power." Did not Joseph Smith tell them in Washington and Philadelphia, that the time would come when their State rights would be trampled upon? (Brigham Young, May 15, 1864. Journal of Discourses 10:294, 295) | ||
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+ | :On Sunday, Sept. 24, there were regular church services at the Bowery in this city, where the Summer worship is conducted, and the congregation ranges from 3,000 to 6,000…. In the afternoon I found the Bowery densely crowded…. Nearly all Mormons of capacity are sent, sooner or later, to some foreign country, to preach the Gospel of the Latter-Day Saints. The first speaker this afternoon was Elder J. W. Byrd…. ‘He was glad to return to their mountain home. He had tried to do his duty faithfully…. At first every one asked him about the great American War, which had now ended, or rather, ceased for a time…. '''Thirty years ago Brother Joseph Smith predicted that war would begin in South Caroline and spread throughout the world as a punishment for its wickedness'''.’ (''New York Daily Tribune'' Friday, 10 November 1865) | ||
===1866-1869=== | ===1866-1869=== | ||
− | :Now I am aware that it is almost impossible for even some of the Latter-day Saints to get that confidence and that strong faith in the events which God intends to accomplish on this land in the future to believe in such a thing, to say nothing about outsiders, that do not believe a word of it. Outsiders do not believe it any more than they believed me when I was a boy and took that revelation which was given in 1832, and carried it forth among many towns and cities and told them there was to be a great and terrible war between the North and the South, and read to them the revelation. Did they believe it? Would they consider that there was any truth in it? Not in the least, "that is a Mormon humbug" they would say. "What! this great and powerful nation of ours to be divided one part against the other and many hundreds of thousands of souls to be destroyed by civil wars!" Not a word of it would they believe. They do not believe what is still in the future. (Orson Pratt, December 27, 1868 | + | :Now I am aware that it is almost impossible for even some of the Latter-day Saints to get that confidence and that strong faith in the events which God intends to accomplish on this land in the future to believe in such a thing, to say nothing about outsiders, that do not believe a word of it. Outsiders do not believe it any more than they believed me when I was a boy and took that revelation which was given in 1832, and carried it forth among many towns and cities and told them there was to be a great and terrible war between the North and the South, and read to them the revelation. Did they believe it? Would they consider that there was any truth in it? Not in the least, "that is a Mormon humbug" they would say. "What! this great and powerful nation of ours to be divided one part against the other and many hundreds of thousands of souls to be destroyed by civil wars!" Not a word of it would they believe. They do not believe what is still in the future. (Orson Pratt, December 27, 1868, ''Journal of Discourses'' 12:344) |
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:In Section 87 of the Doctrine and Covenants is the remarkable prophecy of Joseph Smith's, relating to the great rebellion of the Southern States. Before I read that part of the prophecy of which I wish more particularly to speak, I will pave the way for it. When reasoning with infidels on the truth of the Jewish Scriptures, I have often alluded to the many prophecies in the Bible, and then have shown from history that these predictions have been verified—hence they were inspired. They would generally try to destroy the force of my argument by claiming that the predictions were made after the events had transpired; that is, they were not predictions in fact, but were written by fanatics to deceive mankind. But I wish to show my young brethren this prophecy on the war of the rebellion cannot be overthrown by such assumptions as these, to which I have just alluded. This revelation and prophecy on war, was given December 25, 1832; the events it predicts did not commence until 1861—29 years after the prophecy was made. I have heard several of the leading Elders of the Church say, they carried with them manuscript copies of that prophecy in their preaching tours throughout the States, and . . . read it to the people. Better still—in the year 1851, Elder F. D. Richards published in England a book called, "The Pearl of Great Price;" among other interesting matter it contained, was this prophecy on war. This was nine years before the war it predicted began. As this book was widely circulated both in Europe and America, '''no one can ever use the old infidel argument against it—that is, that the prediction was made after the event had occurred'''.(B. H. Roberts, January 28, 1884. Journal of Discourses 25:141-142) | :In Section 87 of the Doctrine and Covenants is the remarkable prophecy of Joseph Smith's, relating to the great rebellion of the Southern States. Before I read that part of the prophecy of which I wish more particularly to speak, I will pave the way for it. When reasoning with infidels on the truth of the Jewish Scriptures, I have often alluded to the many prophecies in the Bible, and then have shown from history that these predictions have been verified—hence they were inspired. They would generally try to destroy the force of my argument by claiming that the predictions were made after the events had transpired; that is, they were not predictions in fact, but were written by fanatics to deceive mankind. But I wish to show my young brethren this prophecy on the war of the rebellion cannot be overthrown by such assumptions as these, to which I have just alluded. This revelation and prophecy on war, was given December 25, 1832; the events it predicts did not commence until 1861—29 years after the prophecy was made. I have heard several of the leading Elders of the Church say, they carried with them manuscript copies of that prophecy in their preaching tours throughout the States, and . . . read it to the people. Better still—in the year 1851, Elder F. D. Richards published in England a book called, "The Pearl of Great Price;" among other interesting matter it contained, was this prophecy on war. This was nine years before the war it predicted began. As this book was widely circulated both in Europe and America, '''no one can ever use the old infidel argument against it—that is, that the prediction was made after the event had occurred'''.(B. H. Roberts, January 28, 1884. Journal of Discourses 25:141-142) | ||
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Saints sole rulers over every government | A FAIR Analysis of: One Nation Under Gods, a work by author: Richard Abanes
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Hyde on US to be divided |
The book asserts:
"Because the Saints saw the Civil War as a fulfillment of prophecy, its horrors actually brought them some degree of emotional satisfaction and comfort."
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The Saints saw the Civil War:
The following quotations from the Journal of Discourses demonstrate how the Saints saw the Civil War and strife that preceded it, as well as the reasons for it (emphasis added in all cases).
Mormon appeals for federal intervention in the Missouri persecutions were answered in terms of the inability to interfere with "states’ rights." Mormons couldn’t help noting that the nation now had all the "states’ rights" issues it could ever want:
On the approaching US Presidential election:
This account refers to sermons Joseph Smith gave to packed churches in Washington D.C. and Philadelphia where he foretold pending states’ rights issues for America:
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