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=Chapter 9, March to Martyrdom: America's Fighting Prophet?=
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==The Quote==
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===''One Nation under Gods'', page 179 (hardback)===
 
===''One Nation under Gods'', page 179 (hardback)===
On June 30, 1843, Smith fought and boasted again of his strength, saying: "I feel as strong as a giant....I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up."36
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On June 30, 1843, Smith '''fought and boasted again of his strength''', saying: "I feel as strong as a giant....I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up."36 {{ea}}
  
 
===''One Nation under Gods'', page 178 (paperback)===
 
===''One Nation under Gods'', page 178 (paperback)===
On June 30, 1843, he wrestled and bragged again of his prowess, saying: "I feel as strong as a giant....I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up."34
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On June 30, 1843, he '''wrestled and bragged again of his prowess''', saying: "I feel as strong as a giant....I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up."34 {{ea}}
 
 
==The Reference==
 
===Endnote 36, page 544 (hardback)===
 
36. HC, vol. 5, 466
 
 
 
===Endnote 34, page 542 (paperback)===
 
34. HC, vol. 5, 466
 
 
 
==The Problems==
 
In the quote above, the author seeks illustrate a violent personality in Joseph Smith. If one reads this quote carefully, however, it might strike the reader odd that the struggle between Joseph and his 'opponents' did not involved something like tackling, hitting, or throwing down--which are typical action words used when describing a fight. On the contrary, the struggle involved a "pulling up" motion--a description that would in fact fit one of Joseph Smith's favorite recreational games: Stick-pulling. Could it be?
 
  
Perhaps if we were to look up the passage, we might be able to get a clue. Take a look at the whole quote, omission and all (the bold portion was not included in the author's quote):
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I feel as strong as a giant. '''I pulled sticks with the men coming along, and '''I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up.
 
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This is not a violent description at all! "Pulling sticks" is a game of sitting on the ground, facing one another, placing feet together, grabbing forward to a stick, and attempting to pull the other person up from the ground.
 
  
Isn't it preposterous that the author thinks that his readers will ignore the ellipses, and accept with open arms any piece of manufactured drivel, so long as the information casts the prophet Joseph in a negative light? Shame on him. Likewise, shame on Sandra Tanner, who endorsed the author's book, calling it "a concise, accurate, and easy-to-understand history of Mormonism"; or Hank Hanegraaff, who crowns the book as a publication that reveals "the true and complete history of Mormonism"; or Michael Shermer, the publisher of Skeptic Magazine, who ironically raves, "''One Nation Under Gods'' is a triumph of research and wisdom."
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===Endnote 36, page 544 (hardback); Endnote 34, page 542 (paperback)===
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HC, vol. 5, 466
  
The irony noted is that the definition of skeptic is "a person who questions the validity, authenticity, or truth of something purporting to be factual." Unfortunately, the author and his endorsers are not at all concerned about validity, authenticity, or truth.
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Latest revision as of 14:15, 13 April 2024

America's Fighting Prophet?



A FAIR Analysis of: One Nation Under Gods, a work by author: Richard Abanes

Author's Claims


One Nation under Gods, page 179 (hardback)

On June 30, 1843, Smith fought and boasted again of his strength, saying: "I feel as strong as a giant....I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up."36 (emphasis added)

One Nation under Gods, page 178 (paperback)

On June 30, 1843, he wrestled and bragged again of his prowess, saying: "I feel as strong as a giant....I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up."34 (emphasis added)

Author's Sources


Endnote 36, page 544 (hardback); Endnote 34, page 542 (paperback)

HC, vol. 5, 466


Question: Did Joseph Smith brag about his strength and prowess in fighting?

Joseph was talking about his skill in a game called "stick pulling"

Consider these two quotes from Joseph Smith provided by the author of the critical book One Nation Under Gods:

On June 30, 1843, Smith fought and boasted again of his strength, saying: "I feel as strong as a giant....I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up."36 (emphasis added) [1]

And,

On June 30, 1843, he wrestled and bragged again of his prowess, saying: "I feel as strong as a giant....I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up."34 (emphasis added) [2]

In both quotes above, the author seeks to illustrate a violent personality in Joseph Smith. Notice that both quotes contain an ellipsis. What do you suppose the critic of the Church removed from the quote?

In fact, if one reads these quotes carefully, it might strike the reader odd that the struggle between Joseph and his 'opponents' did not involve something like tackling, hitting, or throwing down--which are typical action words used when describing a fight. On the contrary, the struggle involved a "pulling up" motion--a description that would, in fact, fit one of Joseph Smith's favorite recreational games: Stick-pulling.

Perhaps if we were to look up the passage, we might be able to see the proper context. Take a look at the whole quote, omission and all (the bold portion was not included in the author's quote):

I feel as strong as a giant. I pulled sticks with the men coming along, and I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up.

This is not a violent description at all! "Pulling sticks" is a game of sitting on the ground, facing one another, placing feet together, grabbing forward to a stick, and attempting to pull the other person up from the ground.


Notes

  1. Richard Abanes, One Nation under Gods, page 179 (hardback)
  2. One Nation under Gods, page 178 (paperback)