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FAIR: Myöhempien aikojen Jeesuksen Krsituksen Kirkon puolustusta vuodesta 1997

== Kirkon vastaus ==


Kymmenen vuoden aikana 1832.42 Joseph Smith kirjoitti tai saneli ainakin neljä ensimäisen näyn verisota. Nämä kertomukset ovat monin tavoin yhteneviä, mutta niissä on myös eroavuutta korostuksen tai yksityiskohtien suhteen. Nämä eroavuudet ovat tois arvoisia. Nämä kertomukset yhdessä antavat tarkemman kuvan tapahtuneesta. 1838 kertomus, joka löytyy Kallisarvoisesta helmestä on Kirkon yleisimmin käyttämä. Ensimmäsien näyn eri kertomuksista toistaiseksi vain englanniksi: [1]


Yleiskatselmus:


Joseph Smithin väite että hän näki Isän ja Pojan 1820 on aiheuttanut paljon kritiikkiä. Seuraava artikkelisarja käsittelee kriitikkojen erilaisia väitteitä Ensimmäsiestä Näystä. Alla olevat linkitetyt artikkelit auttavat lukijaa huomaamaan joitakinkin Joseph Smithin Ensimmäsitä Näkyä vastaan tehtyhjen väitteiden heikkouksista. Joitakin näitä väitteistä on esillä nykyisissä antimormoni kirjoituksissa joita jaellaan mm. lähellä Sacret Grovea Palmyrassa New Yorkisa.

Pää lähteet Josephin ensimmäisen näyn kertomuksiin

1832 kertomus on kaikkein aikaisin tunnetuista ensimmäisen näyn kertomuksista jotka Joeph Smith on irjoittanut. Lähede: Joseph Smith Letterbook 1, pp. 1-6. Published in: Dean Jessee, Personal Writings of Joseph Smith.

1835 Kertomus - Tämä on Joseph Smithin päiväkirjasta. Hän kuvaa näkyään Robert Matihiakselle, joka tunnettiin myös "Josuah "Juutalainen pappi" nimellä. Lähde: Joseph Smith Diary (1835–1836), original in Joseph Smith Collection, LDS Church Archives, Salt Lake City, Utah. Published in: Dean Jessee, Personal Writings of Joseph Smith.

Joseph smithin Ensimmäinen Näky Wikipediassa: FAIRin analyysi Ensimmäisestä Näystä


Piilotteliko kirkko ensimmäisen näyn kertomuksia?

Joskus kriitikot väittävät MAP kirkon piilotelleen Joseph Smithin Ensimmäisen näyn niitä kertomuksia jotka eivät ole virallisia. Seuraava seitsenosainen tietokone tiedosto (jonka valmisti FAIRin vapaaehtoinen työntekijä Edward Jones) esittää selvästi, että näin ei ollut asian laita. Ensimmäisen Näyn eri versiot ovat olleet laajalti tiedossa MAPn lähdekirjallisuudessa koko 1900 luvulta lähtien.




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Ensimmäsitä Näkyä edeltävää

Uskonnollinen herätys Palmyran alueella.

Mikä aiheutti "ertyisen kiihtymyksen" joka edelsi Josephin näkyä?

Kriitikot väittävät, että Joseph Smithillä ei ollut mitään yhteyttä Metodisteihin ennen kuin 1824-25 Palmyrassa, ja väite että erityinen kuiihtymys alkoi Metodisteista 1820 in väärin." Pääartikkeli: Metodistien herätyskokoukset Palmyran alueella.

Oliko Joseph Smith väärässä 1820 tapahtuneesta uskonnollisesta herätyksestä?

Kriitikot väittävät että mitään uskonnollista herätystä ei ollut Palmyrassa tai New Yorkissa 1820. Toisin kuin Joseph Smith väittää että tuolloin olisi ollut "tavatonta kuohuntaa uskonnon asioissa ... Tosiaankin, se näytti koskettaneen koko aluetta," Joseph Smithin historia 1:5 [2] Pääartikkeli: Uskonnollinen kiihtymys 1820

Smithin preheen kodin sijainti 1820.

Oliko Smithin perhe oikeas paikassa oikeaan aikaan Josephin 1820 näyn mukaan?

Kriitikot väittävät, että Josephin kertomuksessa on epätrkkuuksia koskien sitä, mitä perheelle tapahtui aikaisemmin. Epätarkkuudet leimaavat hänen näkynsä mahdottomiksi eikä ole mitäan todisteita siitä, että Smithin perhe olisi ollut Palmyrassa 1820 uskonnollisen herätyksen ja ensimmäsien näy aikoina. Pääartikkeli: Smithien koti ja asunto 1820

Näky

Ensimmäisen näyn eri variaatiot

Joseph Smith kertoi useita erilaisia versioita Ensimmäisestä näystä. Kriitikot väittävät että hän muutti ja muotoili kertomustaan ajan myötä, ja täten hän ei koskaan saanut näkyä. Pääartikkeli: Josephin kertomat ensimmäisen näyn versiot

   Katso myös: Alkuperäiset lähteet: Ensimmäisen näyn eri versiot

Josephin ensimmäsien näyn ja Paavalin näyn vertausta. Erot Paavalin kertomuksissa.

Apostoli Paavali kertoi myös useamman kuin yhden version näystään Ylösnousseesta Jeesuksesta Damaskoksen tiellä. AIvan kuten Joseph Smithinkin versiot eroavat Paavalinkin versiot toisistaan joissakin kohdin, nutta sanoma itsessään on sama. Pääartikkeli: Paavalin kertomuksien eroja

Ovatko Kreikkalaiset tieteilijät selvittäneet Paavalin eri versioiden erot?

The Church's sectarian critics accept Paul's account as true despite the Bible containing apparently frank contradictions in its accounts, while refusing to give Joseph Smith the same latitude. Members of the Church have long pointed out that this is a clear double standard, designed to bias the audience against Joseph from the beginning. Perhaps because of the force of this argument, some critics have begun to argue that no contradiction exists between the versions of Paul's vision.

   Main article: Do Greek scholars solve the discrepancies in Paul's vision accounts?

Does D&C 84 say God cannot be seen without the priesthood?

Critics argue that Joseph Smith claimed that he saw God in 1820 and also claimed that he received the priesthood in 1829. But in a text which he produced in 1832 (D&C 84:21-22) it is said that a person cannot see God without holding the priesthood. Therefore, critics claim that Joseph Smith contradicted himself and this counts as evidence against his calling as an authentic prophet of God.

   Main article: D&C:84 says God cannot be seen without priesthood

Events occurring after the First Vision Published references to the vision Is there no reference to the First Vision in 1830s publications?

Critics claim that there is no reference to the 1838 canonical First Vision story in any published material from the 1830s, and that nothing published in this period mentions that Joseph saw the Father and Son. They also assume that it would have been mentioned in the local newspapers at the time.

   Main article: No reference to First Vision in 1830s publications

Did the LDS Church seldom publicize the First Vision until after 1877?

Critics charge, “Before the death of Brigham Young in 1877 the first vision was seldom mentioned in Mormon publications.” This evidence implies that the general membership of the LDS Church was not familiar with the First Vision story until late in the nineteenth century.

   Main articles: Seldom mentioned in LDS publications before 1877 (short version) and (long version)

Was there no mention of the First Vision in non-LDS literature before 1843?

There is no mention of the First Vision in non-Mormon literature before 1843. If the First Vision story had been known by the public before 1840 (when Orson Pratt published his pamphlet) the anti-Mormons “surely” would have seized upon it as an evidence of Joseph Smith’s imposture.

   Main article: No mention in non-LDS literature before 1843?

When missionaries said that the Prophet had seen "God" personally did they mean Jesus Christ?

Critics have claimed that just because LDS missionaries were teaching around 1 November 1830 that Joseph Smith had previously seen “God” personally it cannot be assumed that this was a reference to God the Father since the Book of Mormon (completed ca. 11 June 1829) refers to Jesus Christ as “the eternal God” (title page; 2 Nephi 26:12). The argument is made that since this evidence indicates that Joseph Smith understood Jesus Christ to be “God” the statement by the missionaries may have simply meant that Joseph Smith had seen the Savior; not necessarily the Father.

   Main article: Missionaries 1830 statement about Joseph seeing "God"

Is there a lack of contemporary evidence for a Father and Son vision before 1838?

Critics claim that there is no mention of Joseph Smith seeing the Father and Son in any “contemporary” newspaper, diary, LDS publication, or writing of any kind until the year 1838.

   Main article: No published reference to Father and Son vision until 1838?

Was Joseph unsure about God's existence in 1823, after the First Vision?

Critics claim that according to a historical document published in Kirtland, Ohio in 1835 the Prophet Joseph Smith did not know if God existed in the year 1823. This text, therefore, provides evidence that Joseph Smith simply made up the story about the First Vision happening in the year 1820.

   Main article: Joseph Smith did not know if God existed in 1823?

Other churches Did Lucy Mack Smith actually join the Presbyterians in 1823, three years after Joseph said she did?

Critics claim that since there was a religious revival in Palmyra, New York in 1824-25 which appears to match details of Joseph Smith's official Church history, he must have mistakenly mixed this event in with his narrative about what happened in 1820, and that the Prophet's mother joined the Presbyterian church after Alvin Smith died in late 1823. This contradicts Joseph's statement that she joined in 1820, thereby dating Joseph's First Vision to no earlier than 1823.

   Main article: Lucy Mack Smith and the Presbyterians

Did Joseph join other churches after 1820, in direct contradiction to his instruction during the First Vision?

Critics charge that Joseph Smith joined the Methodist, Presbyterian, and Baptist churches between 1820 and 1830—despite the claim made in his 1838 history that he was forbidden by Deity (during the 1820 First Vision experience) from joining any denomination.

   Main article: Joseph joined other churches

Did Joseph Smith contradict himself about knowing which churches were wrong?

In his 1832 account of the First Vision, Joseph Smith said, “I found [by searching the scriptures] that mankind did not come unto the Lord but that they had apostatized from the true and living faith and there was no society or denomination that built upon the gospel of Jesus Christ as recorded in the New Testament.” But in the 1835 account he said, “I knew not who [of the denominations] was right or who was wrong.” Critics claim that thus counts as evidence that the First Vision story evolved over time.

   Main article: Contradiction about knowing all churches were wrong

Fabricated? Was the First Vision story fabricated to provide the Prophet with "Godly authority"?

Critics claim that Joseph Smith decided after he released the Book of Mormon to the public that he needed 'authority from God' to justify his claims as a religious minister. Therefore, it is claimed that he fabricated the First Vision story in order to provide himself with a more prestigious line of authority than that of the "angel" who revealed the golden plates.

   Main article: First Vision fabricated to give "Godly authority?"

Did the First Vision story become more detailed and colorful after 1832?

Some claim that Joseph Smith’s account of the First Vision grew more detailed and more colorful after he first recorded it in 1832.

   Main article: First Vision story became more detailed and colorful after 1832?

Was the 1838 account modified to offset a leadership crisis?

Critics claim that in 1838 Joseph Smith revised his personal history to say that his original call came from God the Father and Jesus Christ rather than an angel. His motive for doing this was to give himself a stronger leadership role because an authority crisis had recently taken place and large-scale apostasy was the result.

   Main article: 1838 account modified to offset leadership crisis?

Additional First Vision issues

   * D&C 121:28 contradicts vision?
   * Father: Spirit vs. Embodied
   * Personages seen by Joseph 

Endnotes

  1. [note]  Richard L. Anderson, "Parallel Prophets: Paul and Joseph Smith," Ensign (April 1985), 12. off-site 

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