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− | *[[First Vision | + | Overview: |
− | + | *[[First Vision|Summary page]] | |
− | *[[Religious revivals in 1820]] | + | ---- |
− | *[[ | + | Leading up to the vision: |
− | *[[ | + | *[[First Vision/Methodist camp meetings|Methodist camp meetings in 1820]] |
− | *[[ | + | *[[First Vision/Religious revivals in 1820|Religious revivals in 1820]] |
− | *[[ | + | *[[First Vision/Smith family place of residence in 1820|Place of residence in 1820]] |
− | *[[ | + | ---- |
− | *[[ | + | The vision: |
− | *[[ | + | *[[First Vision/Accounts|First Vision accounts (summary)]] |
− | *[[First Vision | + | **[[First Vision/Accounts/1832|1832 account (overview)]] |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Joseph Smith's early conception of God|Early understanding of God?]] |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't mention new dispensation|No new dispensation?]] |
− | *[[First Vision | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Different age provided|Different age?]] |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Motivation is different|Different motivation?]] |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't mention persecution|No persecution?]] |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't mention a revival|No revival?]] |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't forbid joining a church|Not forbidden to convert?]] |
− | **[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Says wicked will be destroyed but 1838 doesn't|Wicked destroyed?]] |
− | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Only one Personage appears|Only one Deity?]] | |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Vision set in heaven or on earth|In heaven or earth?]] |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Eternal life regardless of church affiliation|Unconditional salvation?]] |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Struggle with Satan not mentioned|Struggle with Satan?]] |
− | *[[ | + | **[[First Vision/Accounts/1835|1835 account (overview)]] |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Accounts/1835/Mentions "Angels"|Personages were angels?]] |
− | *[[ | + | **[[First Vision/Accounts/1838|1838 account (overview)]] |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Religious revivals in 1820|1820 Revival?]] |
− | *[[ | + | ***[[First Vision/Methodist camp meetings|"It commenced with the Methodists"]] |
− | *[[ | + | *[[First Vision/Paul's accounts|Paul's accounts of his vision]] |
− | *[[ | + | **[[First Vision/Do Greek scholars solve the discrepancies in Paul's vision accounts|Scholars solved discrepancies?]] |
− | *[[ | + | *[[First Vision/Doctrine and Covenants 84 says God not seen without priesthood|Can't see God without priesthood?]] |
− | + | ---- | |
− | *[[ | + | After the vision: |
− | + | *[[First Vision/No reference to First Vision in 1830s publications|No ref in 1830s publications?]] | |
− | *[[ | + | *[[First Vision/Seldom mentioned in LDS publications before 1877|Seldom mentioned in LDS pubs bef 1877?]] |
− | *[[1838 | + | *[[First Vision/No mention in non-LDS literature before 1843|No ref in non-LDS pubs before 1843?]] |
− | : | + | *[[First Vision/1830 statement about seeing "God"|Taught Joseph saw "God" in 1830 pub?]] |
− | *[[George Q. Cannon referred to "angels"]] | + | *[[First Vision/Lack of contemporary Father and Son vision until 1838|No published ref to Father and Son until 1838?]] |
− | *[[Oliver Cowdery not aware of First Vision in 1834-35]] | + | *[[First Vision/Joseph Smith did not know if God existed in 1823|Joseph unsure of God in 1823?]] |
− | *[[Orson Hyde referred to "angels"]] | + | *[[First Vision/Lucy Mack Smith and the Presbyterians|Lucy joined Presbyterians in 1823?]] |
− | *[[Andrew Jenson called personage an "angel"]] | + | *[[First Vision/Joseph Smith joined other churches|Joined other churches?]] |
− | *[[Heber C. Kimball denied the Father appeared]] | + | *[[First Vision/Contradiction about knowing all churches were wrong|All churches wrong?]] |
− | *[[Orson Pratt confused about "angel" or Father-Son | + | *[[First Vision/Fabricated to give "Godly authority"|Fabricated to bolster authority?]] |
− | + | *[[First Vision/Story became more detailed and colorful after 1832|Details added over time?]] | |
− | *[[George A. Smith said First Vision was an "angel"]] | + | *[[First Vision/Accounts/1838/Account modified to offset leadership crisis|Created to offset leadership crisis?]] |
− | *[[Prophet's mother said First Vision was of an "angel"|Lucy Mack Smith | + | ---- |
− | *[[ | + | Others' accounts: |
− | + | *[[First Vision/Accounts/George Q. Cannon referred to "angels"|George Q. Cannon]] | |
− | *[[John Taylor's understanding of the First Vision]] | + | *[[First Vision/Accounts/Oliver Cowdery not aware of First Vision in 1834-35|Cowdery version of 1834-5?]] |
− | *[[ | + | *[[First Vision/Accounts/Orson Hyde referred to "angels"|Orson Hyde]] |
− | *[[Brigham Young said the Lord didn't appear]] | + | *[[First Vision/Accounts/Andrew Jenson called personage an "angel"|Andrew Jenson]] |
− | *[[ | + | *[[First Vision/Accounts/Heber C. Kimball denied the Father appeared|Heber C. Kimball|]] |
+ | *[[First Vision/Accounts/Orson Pratt confused about "angel" or Father-Son|Orson Pratt]] | ||
+ | *[[First Vision/Accounts/George A. Smith said First Vision was an "angel"|George A. Smith]] | ||
+ | *[[First Vision/Accounts/Prophet's mother said First Vision was of an "angel"|Lucy Mack Smith]] | ||
+ | *[[First Vision/Accounts/Orson Spencer said an "angel" was the first manifestation|Orson Spencer]] | ||
+ | *[[First Vision/Accounts/John Taylor's understanding of the First Vision|John Taylor]] | ||
+ | *[[First Vision/Accounts/Brigham Young never mentioned the First Vision|Brigham never spoke of 1st vision?]] | ||
+ | *[[First Vision/Accounts/Brigham Young said the Lord didn't appear|Brigham claimed an angel?]] | ||
+ | *[[First Vision/Seldom mentioned in LDS publications before 1877|Seldom published pre-1877 (short)]] | ||
+ | *[[First Vision/Seldom mentioned in LDS publications before 1877 (long)|(long)]] | ||
+ | ---- | ||
+ | Moroni's visit: | ||
+ | *[[Moroni's visit|Moroni's visit (summary)]] | ||
+ | **[[Moroni's visit/Nephi or Moroni|Nephi or Moroni in 1823?]] | ||
+ | **[[Moroni's visit/Joseph reported "a spirit" visiting in him in 1827|A "spirit" visited Joseph in 1827?]] | ||
+ | **[[Moroni's visit/Angel of Satan|Moroni as an "angel of Satan"]] | ||
+ | ---- | ||
+ | Other criticisms: | ||
+ | *[[First Vision/Doctrine and Covenants 121:28 contradicts vision|D&C 121:28 contradicts vision?]] | ||
+ | *[[First Vision/The Father as Spirit vs. Embodied|Father: Spirit vs. Embodied]] | ||
+ | *[[Personages who appeared to Joseph Smith|Personages seen by Joseph]] | ||
{{JSOtherVisionWiki}} | {{JSOtherVisionWiki}} | ||
{{GodWiki}} | {{GodWiki}} | ||
'''Video''' | '''Video''' | ||
{{Video:Brown:2006:Revised or Unaltered}} | {{Video:Brown:2006:Revised or Unaltered}} |
Versio 5. kesäkuuta 2009 kello 08.08
First Vision wiki articles |
Overview:
Leading up to the vision:
The vision:
- First Vision accounts (summary)
- Paul's accounts of his vision
- Can't see God without priesthood?
After the vision:
- No ref in 1830s publications?
- Seldom mentioned in LDS pubs bef 1877?
- No ref in non-LDS pubs before 1843?
- Taught Joseph saw "God" in 1830 pub?
- No published ref to Father and Son until 1838?
- Joseph unsure of God in 1823?
- Lucy joined Presbyterians in 1823?
- Joined other churches?
- All churches wrong?
- Fabricated to bolster authority?
- Details added over time?
- Created to offset leadership crisis?
Others' accounts:
- George Q. Cannon
- Cowdery version of 1834-5?
- Orson Hyde
- Andrew Jenson
- Heber C. Kimball|
- Orson Pratt
- George A. Smith
- Lucy Mack Smith
- Orson Spencer
- John Taylor
- Brigham never spoke of 1st vision?
- Brigham claimed an angel?
- Seldom published pre-1877 (short)
- (long)
Moroni's visit:
Other criticisms:
Joseph Smith other visionary issues wiki articles |
Moroni's visit:
- Moroni's visit (summary)
- Joseph Smith's early conception of God
- Personages who appeared to Joseph Smith
- Swedenborg and three degrees of glory
God wiki articles |
- The Father: A Spirit vs. Embodied
- Corporeality of God
- Creatio ex nihilo / Creation out of nothing
- Dallin H. Oaks on God as seen by LDS and other Christians
- Elohim and Jehovah
- Foreknowledge of God
- God is a Spirit
- Godhead and the Trinity and Nicene creed
- Heavenly Mother?
- Infinite regress of Gods?
- Kolob
- "No God beside me" - (includes Isaiah 43-46 issues)
- No man has seen God
- Polytheism - Are Mormons polytheists?
- Spirit bodies for humans and 1 Cor 15
- Theosis or human deification
- Unchanging Nature of God
Video
Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories, Matthew Brown, 2006 FAIR Conference |
- Part 1: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
- Part 2: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
- Part 3: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
- Part 4: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
- Part 5: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
- Part 5: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories