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General criticisms: Summary page Early Smith history 1820 Revival Joined other churches? Unsure of God in 1823? Early understanding of God All wrong? Details added over time? Personages were angels? No ref in 1830s? Fabricated to bolster authority? Changed by 1838 apostasy? Without priesthood can't see God? 1832 Account: No new dispensation? Different age? Different motivation? No persecution? No revival? Not forbidden to convert? Wicked destroyed? Only one Deity? In heaven or earth? Unconditional salvation? Struggle with Satan? Others' accounts: George Q. Cannon Cowdery version of 1834-5? Orson Hyde Andrew Jenson Heber C. Kimball\| Orson Pratt George A. Smith Lucy Mack Smith Orson Spencer John Taylor Brigham never spoke of 1st vision? Brigham claimed an angel? Seldom published pre-1877 (short) (long) LDS Father/Son pre-1838? Non-LDS pre-1843? Other criticisms: D&C 121:28 Father: Spirit vs. Embodied Nephi or Moroni in 1823? Joseph reported "a spirit" visiting in him in 1827 Personages seen by Joseph
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 *[[The_Father:_A_Spirit_vs._Embodied|Father: Spirit vs. Embodied]]
 *[[Nephi_or_Moroni|Nephi or Moroni in 1823?]]
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 *[[Personages_who_appeared_to_Joseph_Smith|Personages seen by Joseph]]
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