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Revisión del 20:54 10 may 2015
Contenido
- 1 Pregunta: ¿El Libro de Abraham estado que el sol se pone sus fotones de Kólob?
- 1.1 El libro de referencia de Abraham de la "luz" no se está refiriendo a los fotones de salir de la superficie del Sol
- 1.2 Una descripción figurativa y abstracta, como esto no puede ser forzado en conformidad con la ciencia
- 1.3 Para "pedir prestado" significa recibir con la intención de regresar
- 1.4 "This is the light of Christ. As also he is in the sun, and the light of the sun, and the power thereof by which it was made"
- 1.5 A “medium” can mean a material through which some signal propagates or a means or channel through which something is achieved
- 1.6 ¿Cuál es el "gran clave" llamada "Kae-e-vanrash"?
- 1.7 This may have been a way to teach the Egyptians that Elohim, who dwells near Kolob, rules over than the sun-god, Amen-Re
- 1.8 Abraham did not teach the Egyptians that photons leaving the Sun came from Kolob
- 2 Notas
Pregunta: ¿El Libro de Abraham estado que el sol se pone sus fotones de Kólob?
El libro de referencia de Abraham de la "luz" no se está refiriendo a los fotones de salir de la superficie del Sol
La explicación de Facsímil 2, Figura 5 establece que el Sol se dice que "pedir prestado luz de Kólob por medio de Kae-e-vanrash":
Is called in Egyptian Enish-go-on-dosh; this is one of the governing planets also, and is said by the Egyptians to be the Sun, and to borrow its light from Kolob through the medium of Kae-e-vanrash, which is the grand Key, or, in other words, the governing power, which governs fifteen other fixed planets or stars, as also Floeese or the Moon, the Earth and the Sun in their annual revolutions. This planet receives its power through the medium of Kli-flos-is-es, or Hah-ko-kau-beam, the stars represented by numbers 22 and 23, receiving light from the revolutions of Kolob.
These verses from Abraham admit a variety of interpretations. The suggestion that Abraham must have taught that the photons leaving the surface of the sun originally came from Kolob is completely unjustified.
Una descripción figurativa y abstracta, como esto no puede ser forzado en conformidad con la ciencia
Aunque la traducción en español afirma que el Sol "recibe su luz del Kolob", la versión en Inglés se utiliza la frase "tomar prestado su luz de Kólob." Hay muchas escrituras o declaraciones de los profetas que parecen tener implicaciones científicas . Por desgracia , nunca se formulan en términos científicos modernos y sus significados son a menudo muy oscura. Así que es difícil decidir quién es más tonto - el santo fiel, que los interpreta de una manera que les obliga a un acuerdo con algún punto de vista actual de la ciencia , o el crítico sin fe , que a propósito los interpreta de una manera que está en mayor desacuerdo con el pensamiento científico actual. El Libro de Abraham cotización citado en la crítica anterior ha inspirado a los dos tipos de tonterías , incluyendo la interpretación que se encuentra en el sitio web donde apareció esta crítica. La redacción de la explicación de José Smith de la figura 5 en Facsímil 2 del Libro de Abraham es , de hecho , muy difícil de interpretar.
Para "pedir prestado" significa recibir con la intención de regresar
En primer lugar, a "tomar prestado " significa recibir con la intención de regresar , dijo en especial de un objeto material o sustancia. También puede significar que tomar y adoptar como propio , sobre todo dicho de abstracciones o ideas , como en " el compositor tomó su estructura armónica de la fuga de Bach en Re Mayor . " Entonces, ¿qué significa para el sol para " tomar prestado " su luz de Kolob ? Es la luz un material o una abstracción ? ¿Tiene intención el Sol para pagar la luz que pidió prestado ?
"This is the light of Christ. As also he is in the sun, and the light of the sun, and the power thereof by which it was made"
What, in fact, is meant by 'light' in this context? Doctrine & Covenants 88:7–13, in wording strongly reminiscent of our Book of Abraham quote, states “7 ...this is the light of Christ. As also he is in the sun, and the light of the sun, and the power thereof by which it was made. 8 As also he is in the moon, and is the light of the moon, and the power thereof by which it was made; 9 As also the light of the stars, and the power thereof by which they were made; 10 And the earth also, and the power thereof, even the earth upon which you stand. 11 And the light which shineth, which giveth you light, is through him who enlighteneth your eyes, which is the same light that quickeneth your understandings; 12 Which light proceedeth forth from the presence of God to fill the immensity of space — 13 The light which is in all things, which giveth life to all things, which is the law by which all things are governed, even the power of God who sitteth upon his throne, who is in the bosom of eternity, who is in the midst of all things (emphasis added).” These verses are clearly NOT talking about electromagnetic radiation. Does anyone have a convincing explanation of what they ARE talking about?
A “medium” can mean a material through which some signal propagates or a means or channel through which something is achieved
A “medium” can mean a material through which some signal propagates or a means or channel through which something is achieved. What does it mean here? Does it refer to a material or a means?
¿Cuál es el "gran clave" llamada "Kae-e-vanrash"?
¿Cuál es Kae-e-vanrash? El Libro de Abraham dice que es un "gran clave", o "poder de gobierno." ¿Qué significa eso? Es Kae-e-vanrash un término para las reacciones nucleares, la gravitación, los rayos cósmicos? ¿O es un medio más espiritual, como el sacerdocio o la creencia, o una estructura de organización, o un medio utilizado para las comunicaciones administrativas?
This may have been a way to teach the Egyptians that Elohim, who dwells near Kolob, rules over than the sun-god, Amen-Re
And, finally, what are we to understand about the nature of Book of Abraham astronomy? Is it a revelation from God to Abraham explaining the structure of the universe as it would be seen by the astronomers of our day? Or should we remember that “The Lord said unto me: Abraham, I show these things unto thee before ye go into Egypt, that ye may declare all these words.” Abraham 3:15, so that, as John Gee has suggested [1], this is simply the teaching that would be easiest for the Egyptians to understand — one that would teach them that Elohim, who dwells near Kolob, rules over than the sun-god, Amen-Re?
Abraham did not teach the Egyptians that photons leaving the Sun came from Kolob
Until someone can make a convincing case that their interpretation of these things is the only reasonable one, any faith-promoting proof from Abraham’s astronomy is a flimsy house of cards and any faith-destroying attack on some straw-man interpretation is misguided. Among the misguided interpretations is the unjustified suggestion that Abraham taught that the photons leaving the surface of the sun originally came from Kolob.
Notas
- ↑ John Gee, "The Larger Issue", 2009 FAIR Conference. off-site (Inglés)