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==="in the 16th year of my age"=== | ==="in the 16th year of my age"=== | ||
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| − | | | + | |sujeto=Joseph Smith's 1832 First Vision account states he was 15 years old rather than 14 |
| − | | | + | |sumario=In Joseph Smith's 1832 First Vision recital he said that he was "in the 16th year of [his] age" when the manifestation took place but when he created the 1838 account he changed this information to say that he was "in [his] fifteenth year." |
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==="I saw the Lord"=== | ==="I saw the Lord"=== | ||
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| − | | | + | |sujeto=Did Joseph Smith claim to see only one Personage in his 1832 vision account? |
| − | | | + | |sumario=In the 1832 account of the First Vision—which is in the handwriting of Joseph Smith—it only says that Jesus Christ made an appearance to the Prophet; the Father is missing. |
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| − | | | + | |sujeto=Is the 1832 vision set in heaven or on the earth? |
| − | | | + | |sumario=There seems to be a discrepancy between the location of Deity in the Prophet's 1832 and 1838 First Vision accounts. The 1838 version says that the Prophet saw two Personages standing in the air above the earth, within his proximity. But the 1832 version is not so clear - it seems to locate Deity in heaven. |
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==="thy sins are forgiven thee"=== | ==="thy sins are forgiven thee"=== | ||
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| − | | | + | |enlace=Joseph Smith's First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't forbid joining a church |
| − | | | + | |sujeto=Did Joseph really not mention being forbidden to join other churches in 1832? |
| − | | | + | |sumario=The 1832 First Vision account does not portray the Lord giving Joseph Smith an injunction against joining any church; it does not portray the Lord as announcing that all the churches were corrupt. These details do not show up until the 1838 account. |
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| − | | | + | |sumario=Did Joseph Smith join the Methodist, Presbyterian, or Baptist churches between 1820 and 1830—despite the claim made in his 1838 history that he was forbidden by Deity (during the 1820 First Vision experience) from joining any denomination? |
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| − | | | + | |enlace=Joseph Smith's First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't mention new dispensation |
| − | | | + | |sujeto=Was the idea of a new dispensation a later addition to Joseph's account? |
| − | | | + | |sumario=One critical author states, "Joseph [Smith] added new elements to his later narratives that are not hinted at in his earlier ones. His first vision evolved from a forgiveness epiphany [1832 account] to a call from God the Father and Jesus Christ to restore the true order of things [1842 account]." |
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==="all those who believe on my name may have Eternal life"=== | ==="all those who believe on my name may have Eternal life"=== | ||
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| − | | | + | |enlace=Joseph Smith's First Vision/Accounts/1832/Eternal life regardless of church affiliation |
| − | | | + | |sujeto=Does the 1832 account say that eternal life is given to everyone regardless of church affiliation? |
| − | | | + | |sumario=When Jesus Christ speaks to Joseph Smith in the 1832 First Vision account He says that all of those who believe on His name may have eternal life. Does this mean that one receives eternal life regardless of what church they are affiliated with? |
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==="mine anger is kindling against the inhabitants of the earth"=== | ==="mine anger is kindling against the inhabitants of the earth"=== | ||
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| − | | | + | |sujeto=Why does the 1832 account mention destruction of the wicked but the 1838 account doesn't? |
| − | | | + | |sumario=One difference between the 1832 First Vision account and the official 1838 recital is that it portrays Jesus Christ as prophesying that He will return to earth quickly to destroy wicked mortals. The 1838 story makes no mention of the impending doom of this planet's depraved inhabitants. |
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==="I could find none that would believe"=== | ==="I could find none that would believe"=== | ||
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Revisión del 21:10 21 may 2014
Análisis crítico de 1832 cuenta la Primera Visión de José Smith
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¿Qué diferencias hay entre 1832 cuenta la Primera Visión de José Smith y relatos posteriores?
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"Aproximadamente a la edad de doce años, mi mente se que impresionados"
Aproximadamente a la edad de doce años, mi mente se convierten en más que impresionados con respecto a las preocupaciones de todo importentdepara el bienestar los de mi alma inmortal, que me llevó a escudriñar las Escrituras believeing como me enseñaron, que contenían la palabra de Dios...
"mi relación íntima con los de diferentes denominaciones"
...aplicando así mismo a ellos y mi conocimiento íntimo de las de diferentes denominaciones que me llevó a admirar sobremanera porque yo descubrí que no lo hicieronadornan</ ins>lugarde adornando su profesión por un paseo santa y piadosa conversación agradable para lo que encontré que figura en dicho depósito sagrado...</div></blockquote> </center> <center>∗ ∗ ∗</center>
"se trataba de un dolor a mi alma así de la edad de doce años para los quince"
¿Se cuenta 1832 de José no mencionó ningún avivamientos religiosos en su área?
Sumario: Un renacimiento religioso no se menciona en 1832, escrita a mano cuenta Primera Visión de José Smith."for I become convicted of my sins"
Was Joseph's motivation in the 1832 account different than later accounts?
Sumario: Joseph Smith's stated motivation for praying to the Lord changes between the first known account of the First Vision (1832) and the official version of it (1838)."by searching the scriptures I found that mankind did not come unto the Lord"
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...and by searching the scriptures I found thatmand<ins>mankind</ins> did not come unto the Lord but that they had apostatised from the true and liveing faith and there was no society or denomination that built upon the gospel of Jesus Christ as recorded in the new testament...</center> <center>∗ ∗ ∗</center>
"I felt to mourn for my own sins and for the sins of the world"
Was Joseph's motivation in the 1832 account different than later accounts?
Sumario: Joseph Smith's stated motivation for praying to the Lord changes between the first known account of the First Vision (1832) and the official version of it (1838)."I cried unto the Lord for mercy"
"in the 16th year of my age"
Joseph Smith's 1832 First Vision account states he was 15 years old rather than 14
Sumario: In Joseph Smith's 1832 First Vision recital he said that he was "in the 16th year of [his] age" when the manifestation took place but when he created the 1838 account he changed this information to say that he was "in [his] fifteenth year.""I saw the Lord"
Why isn't the Prophet's struggle with Satan in the 1832 account?
Sumario: Joseph Smith says in the official Church history account of the First Vision that directly before the theophany occurred he had a struggle with Satan. But this struggle is not mentioned in his 1832 recital of the experience.Did Joseph Smith claim to see only one Personage in his 1832 vision account?
Sumario: In the 1832 account of the First Vision—which is in the handwriting of Joseph Smith—it only says that Jesus Christ made an appearance to the Prophet; the Father is missing.Is the 1832 vision set in heaven or on the earth?
Sumario: There seems to be a discrepancy between the location of Deity in the Prophet's 1832 and 1838 First Vision accounts. The 1838 version says that the Prophet saw two Personages standing in the air above the earth, within his proximity. But the 1832 version is not so clear - it seems to locate Deity in heaven."thy sins are forgiven thee"
Did Joseph really not mention being forbidden to join other churches in 1832?
Sumario: The 1832 First Vision account does not portray the Lord giving Joseph Smith an injunction against joining any church; it does not portray the Lord as announcing that all the churches were corrupt. These details do not show up until the 1838 account.Did Joseph join other churches after the First Vision?
Sumario: Did Joseph Smith join the Methodist, Presbyterian, or Baptist churches between 1820 and 1830—despite the claim made in his 1838 history that he was forbidden by Deity (during the 1820 First Vision experience) from joining any denomination?Was the idea of a new dispensation a later addition to Joseph's account?
Sumario: One critical author states, "Joseph [Smith] added new elements to his later narratives that are not hinted at in his earlier ones. His first vision evolved from a forgiveness epiphany [1832 account] to a call from God the Father and Jesus Christ to restore the true order of things [1842 account].""all those who believe on my name may have Eternal life"
Does the 1832 account say that eternal life is given to everyone regardless of church affiliation?
Sumario: When Jesus Christ speaks to Joseph Smith in the 1832 First Vision account He says that all of those who believe on His name may have eternal life. Does this mean that one receives eternal life regardless of what church they are affiliated with?"mine anger is kindling against the inhabitants of the earth"
Why does the 1832 account mention destruction of the wicked but the 1838 account doesn't?
Sumario: One difference between the 1832 First Vision account and the official 1838 recital is that it portrays Jesus Christ as prophesying that He will return to earth quickly to destroy wicked mortals. The 1838 story makes no mention of the impending doom of this planet's depraved inhabitants."I could find none that would believe"
Why was persecution for his vision absent in Joseph's 1832 account?
Sumario: Joseph Smith's 1832 First Vision account does not say that he was persecuted for relating his spiritual manifestation to others."I pondered these things"
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nevertheless I pondered these things in my heartabout that time my mother andbut after many days</span>I fell into transgression and sinned in many things which brought a wound upon my soul and there were many things which transpired that cannot be writen and my Fathers family have suffered many persicutions and afflictions and it—came to pass when I was seventeen years of age I called again upon the Lord and he shewed unto me a heavenly vision</center> <center>∗ ∗ ∗</center>
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