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Copley also claimed that the Lord told Joseph that the man was Moroni with the plates, and that if he had "five coppers, he might have got his plates again."
Note that Copley's testimony contradicts that of Peter Ingersoll. Ingersoll claimed that Joseph Smith made up the story of the plates on the spot in order to fool his family. Copley, on the other hand, mentions the name Moroni.
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