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===Question: What is "empirical evidence"?<br>Answer: It is evidence based upon observation===
 
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Latter-day Saints do not view the Book of Mormon witnesses as "empirical, rational, twenty-first century men." They view them as honest, rational, nineteenth-century men.
 
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Merriam-Webster defines ''empirical'' as: "originating in or based on observation or experience." The witnesses testified that they saw the plates, and three of them testified that they saw an angel. ''This is the very definition of "empirical evidence."'' They reported what they saw with their own eyes. This is not faith, but knowledge.
 
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To imply that nineteenth-century men are intrinsically unreliable is both an ''ad hominem'' (an attack against the character of person making the claim, rather than the claim itself) and sets an impossible standard of evidence for the gospel inasmuch as they were the only men available as witnesses at the time. Thus the author is using a screening argument (dates of life) that can be used to exclude whatever evidence he wishes to ignore.
 
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Eram as testemunhas "não empíricas" ou "irracionais" por terem eles vivido no Século 19?



Pergunta: O que é "evidência empírica"?

É uma prova baseada em observação

Merriam-Webster define empírico como: "Originado em ou baseado na observação e experiência." As testemunhas afirmaram que viram as placas, e três deles testemunharam que viram um anjo. Esta é a própria definição de "evidência empírica". Eles relataram o que viram com seus próprios olhos. Isto não é a fé, mas sim conhecimento.


Pergunta: Um homem não é considerado de confiança só porque ele viveu no século 19?

Dar a entender que alguém não é confiável simplesmente por causa da época em que viviam é um ad hominem ataque

Eram as testemunhas "não empíricas" ou "irracionais" por terem eles vivido no Século 19, em uma época onde "magia popular" era praticada?

  • Um crítico do mormonismo afirma "O erro cometido por mórmons do século 21 é que eles estão vendo as testemunhas Livro de Mórmon como homens empíricos e racionais, do século 21" [1]

Dar a entender que os homens do século XIX são intrinsecamente indignos de confiança é tanto um ad hominem (um ataque contra o caráter da pessoa que faz a declaração, em vez da declaração em si) e estabelece um padrão impossível de evidências do evangelho já que eles eram os únicos homens disponíveis como testemunhas na época. Assim, o autor está usando um argumento de triagem (épocas da vida) que pode ser usado para excluir qualquer evidência que ele deseja ignorar.


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Peterson (2014): "It’s rather like someone to ascribe early Christian belief to the resurrection of Jesus to the supposed fact that ancient people, unlike us, hadn’t yet realized that dead people tend to stay dead"

Daniel C. Peterson, responding to a claim in the Letter to a CES Director:

This is what he says, the author of the letter: “The mistake that is made by 21st century Mormons is that they’re seeing the Book of Mormon Witnesses as empirical, rational, nineteenth-century men instead of the nineteenth-century magical-thinking superstitious and treasure-digging men they were.” [2] I confess as someone who has spent a lot of time, much of my life, looking at people from pre-modern periods, that the sheer condescension of this, the chronological smugness and complacency of that statement irritates me, and not merely because I’m a believing Latter-day Saint. It’s rather like someone to ascribe early Christian belief to the resurrection of Jesus to the supposed fact that ancient people, unlike us, hadn’t yet realized that dead people tend to stay dead, which, if it were true at all would leave us wondering why they thought the resurrection of Jesus was such a big deal. Happens all the time, right? [3]


Notas

  1. ↑ Jeremy Runnells, "Letter to a CES Director" (original version posted on the critical website "FutureMissionary.com") (2013)
  2. ↑ Jeremy Runnells, "Letter to a CES Director" (2013)
  3. ↑ Daniel C. Peterson, "Some Reflections on That Letter to a CES Director," 2014 FairMormon Conference
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