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2010-06-05T01:57:10Z

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	=== We welcome while teaching against same-sex relationships ===		=== We welcome while teaching against same-sex relationships ===

	Everyone is welcome to ~~participate in~~ our services, but to be a member one must first make a covenant to follow the commandments of God. Jesus Christ taught that we should abstain from fornication and adultery.{{ref\|Adultery}} This includes all relationships besides those between a husband and a wife. We are not at liberty to change the law for a segment of the population.{{ref\|packer01}} People with same-sex attractions are subject to these laws as much as those with opposite-sex attractions. You cannot have a same-sex relationship without disobeying the commandments given to us by Jesus Christ. Elder Oaks explains:		Everyone is welcome to attend our services, but to be a member one must first make a covenant to follow the commandments of God. Jesus Christ taught that we should abstain from fornication and adultery.{{ref\|Adultery}} This includes all relationships besides those between a husband and a wife. We are not at liberty to change the law for a segment of the population.{{ref\|packer01}} People with same-sex attractions are subject to these laws as much as those with opposite-sex attractions. You cannot have a same-sex relationship without disobeying the commandments given to us by Jesus Christ. Elder Oaks explains:

	"Homosexual behavior is and will always remain before the Lord an abominable sin."{{ref\|Oaks07}}		"Homosexual behavior is and will always remain before the Lord an abominable sin."{{ref\|Oaks07}}

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	\|contribution-url=http://www.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/public-issues/elder-bruce-c-hafen-speaks-on-same-sex-attraction		\|contribution-url=http://www.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/public-issues/elder-bruce-c-hafen-speaks-on-same-sex-attraction
	}}.		}}.
	#{{note\|ChangeOrientation}} The APA has stated "Some people believe that sexual orientation is		#{{note\|ChangeOrientation}} The APA has stated "Some people believe that sexual orientation is innate and fixed; however, sexual orientation develops across a person’s lifetime." The way this develops varies from person to person. A report from the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health states that, "For some people, sexual orientation is continuous and fixed throughout their lives. For others, sexual orientation may be fluid and change over time." Many people have testified that through the atonement of Christ, they no longer are attracted to people of the same gender. Others have also had faith in Christ, but still have same-sex attractions. Elder Holland taught: "Through the exercise of faith, individual effort, and reliance upon the power of the Atonement, some may overcome same-gender attraction in mortality and marry. Others, however, may never be free of same-gender attraction in this life."
	innate and fixed; however, sexual orientation develops across a person’s lifetime." The way this develops varies from person to person. A report from the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health states that, "For some people, sexual orientation is continuous and fixed throughout their lives. For others, sexual orientation may be fluid and change over time." Many people have testified that through the atonement of Christ, they no longer are attracted to people of the same gender. Others have also had faith in Christ, but still have same-sex attractions. Elder Holland taught: "Through the exercise of faith, individual effort, and reliance upon the power of the Atonement, some may overcome same-gender attraction in mortality and marry. Others, however, may never be free of same-gender attraction in this life."		#{{note\|Adultery}} See Matt 19:18, Matt 15:19 and Mark 7:21. This excludes all sexual relationships between unmarried people. It was apparent that Christ only recognized marriage between a man and a woman. (Matt 19:4-6) Modern revelation confirms that the Biblical teaching against adultery and fornication only allows for sexual relationships between a husband and a wife.
	#{{note\|Adultery}} See Matt 19:18, Matt 15:19 and Mark 7:21. This excludes all sexual relationships between unmarried people. It was apparent that Christ only recognized marriage between a man and a woman. (Matt 19:4-6) Modern revelation confirms that the Biblical teaching against adultery and fornication ~~prohibits~~ sexual relationships between ~~everyone besides~~ husband and wife.
	#{{note\|RejectSameSexAttractions}} [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124950491516608883.html A New Therapy on Faith and Sexual Identity: Psychological Association Revises Treatment Guidelines to Allow Counselors to Help Clients Reject Their Same-Sex Attractions]		#{{note\|RejectSameSexAttractions}} [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124950491516608883.html A New Therapy on Faith and Sexual Identity: Psychological Association Revises Treatment Guidelines to Allow Counselors to Help Clients Reject Their Same-Sex Attractions]
	#{{note\|CaliforniaSupremeCourt}} [http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/revpub/A110449.PDF In re MARRIAGE CASES]		#{{note\|CaliforniaSupremeCourt}} [http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/revpub/A110449.PDF In re MARRIAGE CASES]
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	#{{note\|PlaceInTheKingdom}}[http://centurypubl.com/Place_Kingdom_Same_Sex_Attraction.htm ''A Place in the Kingdom: Spiritual Insights from Latter-day Saints about Same-Sex Attraction.'']		#{{note\|PlaceInTheKingdom}}[http://centurypubl.com/Place_Kingdom_Same_Sex_Attraction.htm ''A Place in the Kingdom: Spiritual Insights from Latter-day Saints about Same-Sex Attraction.'']
	#{{note\|Brown63}} In the 1963 General Conference, Hugh B. Brown stated: "it is a moral evil for any person or group of persons to deny any human being the rights to gainful employment, to full educational opportunity, and to every privilege of citizenship". He continued: "We call upon all men everywhere, both within and outside the church, to commit themselves to the establishment of full civil equality for all of God's children. Anything less than this defeats our high ideal of the brotherhood of man."		#{{note\|Brown63}} In the 1963 General Conference, Hugh B. Brown stated: "it is a moral evil for any person or group of persons to deny any human being the rights to gainful employment, to full educational opportunity, and to every privilege of citizenship". He continued: "We call upon all men everywhere, both within and outside the church, to commit themselves to the establishment of full civil equality for all of God's children. Anything less than this defeats our high ideal of the brotherhood of man."
	#{{note\|SelfDetermination}} There have been several studies which have investigated the effects of gay affirmative therapies on clients whose religious values go contrary to the ideals of gay affirmative therapy. For example, see {{cite journal \|url= http://tcp.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/32/5/651 \|title= Mormon Clients’ Experiences of Conversion Therapy \|last= Beckstead \|first= A. Lee \|date= 2004 \|volume= 32 \|number= 5 \|pages= 651–690 \|doi= 10.~~1177/0011000004267555 \|journal= The Counseling Psychologist }}~~ {{~~cite journal~~		#{{note\|SelfDetermination}} There have been several studies which have investigated the effects of gay affirmative therapies on clients whose religious values go contrary to the ideals of gay affirmative therapy. Throckmorton showed that those who want to change their sexual orientation did not find therapists who tried to get them to affirm a gay identity to be very helpful. ({{Citation
	\|url=http://www.drthrockmorton.com/jpcreorientation.pdf		\|url=http://www.drthrockmorton.com/jpcreorientation.pdf
	\|title=Counseling practices as they relate to ratings of helpfulness by consumers of sexual reorientation therapy		\|title=Counseling practices as they relate to ratings of helpfulness by consumers of sexual reorientation therapy
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	\|volume=24		\|volume=24
	\|number=4		\|number=4
	\|pages=332–42\|format=PDF}} ~~and~~ {{~~cite journal~~		\|pages=332–42\|format=PDF}}) After working with several clients, Haldeman postulated that for some people, it would more feasible to change their sexual orientation than it would be to try to change their religious identity. ({{Citation
	\|last=Haldeman		\|last=Haldeman
	\|first=Douglas		\|first=Douglas
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	\|doi=10.1177/0011000004267560		\|doi=10.1177/0011000004267560
	\|journal=The Counseling Psychologist		\|journal=The Counseling Psychologist
	\|pages=691}}. ~~Each have discovered~~ that ~~there are people who are attracted to the same gender for whom~~ gay affirmative therapy is not ~~helpful~~. ~~This has~~ lead the American Psychological Associate to issue a statement which reads "Mental health professional organizations call on their members to respect a person's (client's) right to selfdetermination".[http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/orientation.aspx] When dealing with these patients, they have determined that the appropriate application of affirmative therapeutic interventions is one which "involves therapist acceptance, support, and understanding of clients and the facilitation of clients’ active coping, social support, and identity exploration and development, without imposing a specific sexual orientation identity outcome." [Report of the APA Task Force on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/sexual-orientation.aspx]		\|pages=691}}) Beckstead worked with Mormon clients and concluded that gay affirmative therapy did not help clients who did not want to be gay. ({{Citation \|url= http://tcp.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/32/5/651 \|title= Mormon Clients’ Experiences of Conversion Therapy \|last= Beckstead \|first= A. Lee \|date= 2004 \|volume= 32 \|number= 5 \|pages= 651–690 \|doi= 10.1177/0011000004267555 \|journal= The Counseling Psychologist }}) Statements like these have lead the American Psychological Associate to issue a statement which reads "Mental health professional organizations call on their members to respect a person's (client's) right to selfdetermination".[http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/orientation.aspx] When dealing with these patients, they have determined that the appropriate application of affirmative therapeutic interventions is one which "involves therapist acceptance, support, and understanding of clients and the facilitation of clients’ active coping, social support, and identity exploration and development, without imposing a specific sexual orientation identity outcome." [Report of the APA Task Force on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/sexual-orientation.aspx] Possible non-LGBT sexual orientation identity outcomes would include heterosexual, ex-gay and no identity.
	#{{note\|NotACivilRight}} Some have accused the Church of denying a group of people their civil right to marry based on their sexual orientation. This is not true. Nowhere is there any requirement based on sexual orientation in order to marry. People of all sexual orientations get married in all parts of the world. Many members with same-sex attractions have been able to form fulfilling and faithful marriages to people of the opposite sex. Marriage, as defined by God, is a union between a man and a woman, and everyone is allowed to participate. Political involvement by the Church has been focused on protecting this definition. Same-sex marriage is not really a marriage by the definition given by God and is therefore not a civil right. Elder Oaks explains: "The Church does not consider same-sex marriage to be a civil right. We have endured a wave of media-reported charges that the Mormons are trying to "deny" people or "strip" people of their "rights." After a significant majority of California voters (seven million - over 52 percent) approved Proposition 8’s limiting marriage to a man and a woman, some opponents characterized the vote as denying people their civil rights. In fact, the Proposition 8 battle was not about civil rights, but about what equal rights demand and what religious rights protect. At no time did anyone question or jeopardize the civil right of Proposition 8 opponents to vote or speak their views."		#{{note\|NotACivilRight}} Some have accused the Church of denying a group of people their civil right to marry based on their sexual orientation. This is not true. Nowhere is there any requirement based on sexual orientation in order to marry. People of all sexual orientations get married in all parts of the world. Many members with same-sex attractions have been able to form fulfilling and faithful marriages to people of the opposite sex. Marriage, as defined by God, is a union between a man and a woman, and everyone is allowed to participate. Political involvement by the Church has been focused on protecting this definition. Same-sex marriage is not really a marriage by the definition given by God and is therefore not a civil right. Elder Oaks explains: "The Church does not consider same-sex marriage to be a civil right. We have endured a wave of media-reported charges that the Mormons are trying to "deny" people or "strip" people of their "rights." After a significant majority of California voters (seven million - over 52 percent) approved Proposition 8’s limiting marriage to a man and a woman, some opponents characterized the vote as denying people their civil rights. In fact, the Proposition 8 battle was not about civil rights, but about what equal rights demand and what religious rights protect. At no time did anyone question or jeopardize the civil right of Proposition 8 opponents to vote or speak their views."
	#{{note\|oaks94}} (Dallin Oaks, "Our strengths can become our downfall, " Ensign, October, 1994, 19.		#{{note\|oaks94}} (Dallin Oaks, "Our strengths can become our downfall, " Ensign, October, 1994, 19.
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	\|title=Weightier Matters		\|title=Weightier Matters
	}}		}}
	#{{note\|LDS08}} [		#{{note\|LDS08}} [http://www.newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/the-divine-institution-of-marriage The Divine Institution of Marriage]
	http://www.newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/the-divine-institution-of-marriage The Divine Institution of Marriage]
	#{{note\|LDS09}} [http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/statement-given-to-salt-lake-city-council-on-nondiscrimination-ordinances Statement Given to Salt Lake City Council on Nondiscrimination Ordinances]		#{{note\|LDS09}} [http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/statement-given-to-salt-lake-city-council-on-nondiscrimination-ordinances Statement Given to Salt Lake City Council on Nondiscrimination Ordinances]
	#{{note\|laumann}}{{cite book		#{{note\|laumann}}{{cite book

JoshuaJohanson: /* We affirm while teaching against same-sex relationships */ Added Hafen's quote

2010-05-28T19:03:40Z

We affirm while teaching against same-sex relationships: Added Hafen's quote

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	Everyone will have a desire to disobey some of the commandments of God. The exact nature of the desires vary from person to person. Because of the fall of Adam, all mankind has become "carnal, sensual, and devilish, by nature". (Alma 42:10) One of the reasons we have these desires is so that there can be an opposition in all things. (2 Nephi 2:11) If we were not enticed by the one or the other, we would not learn to distinguish good from evil and hence we really would not be able to act for ourselves.(2 Nephi 2:16) God gives us weaknesses so we can be humble and turn to him. (Ether 12:27) By yielding to God, we can overcome the natural tendency to sin, and become who God wants us to be, (Mosiah 3:19) but unless we had the desire to sin in the first place, we would have no need to repent and hence couldn't turn to God. (Alma 42:17) The fall of Adam and our subsequent desire to sin is an essential part of the plan of a loving God to ultimately bring us joy. (2 Nephi 2:25) Everyone seeking to be saved has to deal with the desire to sin and put off the natural man through the atonement of Christ. The desire for homosexual relationships is no different than any other desire to disobey the commandments of God.		Everyone will have a desire to disobey some of the commandments of God. The exact nature of the desires vary from person to person. Because of the fall of Adam, all mankind has become "carnal, sensual, and devilish, by nature". (Alma 42:10) One of the reasons we have these desires is so that there can be an opposition in all things. (2 Nephi 2:11) If we were not enticed by the one or the other, we would not learn to distinguish good from evil and hence we really would not be able to act for ourselves.(2 Nephi 2:16) God gives us weaknesses so we can be humble and turn to him. (Ether 12:27) By yielding to God, we can overcome the natural tendency to sin, and become who God wants us to be, (Mosiah 3:19) but unless we had the desire to sin in the first place, we would have no need to repent and hence couldn't turn to God. (Alma 42:17) The fall of Adam and our subsequent desire to sin is an essential part of the plan of a loving God to ultimately bring us joy. (2 Nephi 2:25) Everyone seeking to be saved has to deal with the desire to sin and put off the natural man through the atonement of Christ. The desire for homosexual relationships is no different than any other desire to disobey the commandments of God.

	The Church affirms those with same-sex attractions who have a desire to have homosexual relationships, not by pretending that such relationships are not sinful, but by including them in a vast brotherhood of other mortals who are similarly dealing with the desires of the natural man.		The Church affirms those with same-sex attractions who have a desire to have homosexual relationships, not by pretending that such relationships are not sinful, but by including them in a vast brotherhood of other mortals who are similarly dealing with the desires of the natural man. Eventually, all of these things, including same-sex attractions, will work together for the good of those who love God. {{ref\|hafen}}

	== The Church is helpful ==		== The Church is helpful ==

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			#{{note\|Hafen}}{{Citation
			\|author=LDS Church
			\|title=Elder Bruce C. Hafen Speaks on Same-Sex Attraction
			\|year=2009
			\|place=Evergreen Conference
			\|publisher=LDS Church
			\|contribution-url=http://www.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/public-issues/elder-bruce-c-hafen-speaks-on-same-sex-attraction
			}}.
			#{{note\|ChangeOrientation}} The APA has stated "Some people believe that sexual orientation is
			innate and fixed; however, sexual orientation develops across a person’s lifetime." The way this develops varies from person to person. A report from the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health states that, "For some people, sexual orientation is continuous and fixed throughout their lives. For others, sexual orientation may be fluid and change over time." Many people have testified that through the atonement of Christ, they no longer are attracted to people of the same gender. Others have also had faith in Christ, but still have same-sex attractions. Elder Holland taught: "Through the exercise of faith, individual effort, and reliance upon the power of the Atonement, some may overcome same-gender attraction in mortality and marry. Others, however, may never be free of same-gender attraction in this life."
	#{{note\|Adultery}} See Matt 19:18, Matt 15:19 and Mark 7:21. This excludes all sexual relationships between unmarried people. It was apparent that Christ only recognized marriage between a man and a woman. (Matt 19:4-6) Modern revelation confirms that the Biblical teaching against adultery and fornication prohibits sexual relationships between everyone besides husband and wife.		#{{note\|Adultery}} See Matt 19:18, Matt 15:19 and Mark 7:21. This excludes all sexual relationships between unmarried people. It was apparent that Christ only recognized marriage between a man and a woman. (Matt 19:4-6) Modern revelation confirms that the Biblical teaching against adultery and fornication prohibits sexual relationships between everyone besides husband and wife.
	#{{note\|RejectSameSexAttractions}} [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124950491516608883.html A New Therapy on Faith and Sexual Identity: Psychological Association Revises Treatment Guidelines to Allow Counselors to Help Clients Reject Their Same-Sex Attractions]		#{{note\|RejectSameSexAttractions}} [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124950491516608883.html A New Therapy on Faith and Sexual Identity: Psychological Association Revises Treatment Guidelines to Allow Counselors to Help Clients Reject Their Same-Sex Attractions]

JoshuaJohanson: /* We welcome while teaching against same-sex relationships */ Vary over time

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	"Homosexual behavior is and will always remain before the Lord an abominable sin."{{ref\|Oaks07}}		"Homosexual behavior is and will always remain before the Lord an abominable sin."{{ref\|Oaks07}}

	Those who refer to themselves as gay are not necessarily having same-sex relationships. Gay is an adjective that can refer to thoughts, attractions or behaviors.{{ref\|Oaks07}} Having same-sex attractions, participating in same-sex relationships, and identifying as gay or lesbian are three separate things. A study by the Social Organization of Sexuality found that 60% of men and 68% of women who were attracted to the same gender have never engaged in homosexual behavior. This number differs from those who identify as gay, lesbian or bisexual. For them, only 13% of men and 4% of women have never engaged in homosexual behavior.{{ref\|laumann}} From studies like these, the American Psychological Association has determined that "Sexual orientation is different from sexual behavior because it refers to feelings and self-concept. Individuals may or may not express their sexual orientation in their behaviors."{{ref\|apa??}} Some who have engaged in homosexual behavior have stopped and others will stop when they hear the gospel of Jesus Christ and are converted.		Those who refer to themselves as gay are not necessarily having same-sex relationships. Gay is an adjective that can refer to thoughts, attractions or behaviors.{{ref\|Oaks07}} Having same-sex attractions, participating in same-sex relationships, and identifying as gay or lesbian are three separate things, and they vary over time.{{ref\|ChangeOrientation}} A study by the Social Organization of Sexuality found that 60% of men and 68% of women who were attracted to the same gender have never engaged in homosexual behavior. This number differs from those who identify as gay, lesbian or bisexual. For them, only 13% of men and 4% of women have never engaged in homosexual behavior.{{ref\|laumann}} From studies like these, the American Psychological Association has determined that "Sexual orientation is different from sexual behavior because it refers to feelings and self-concept. Individuals may or may not express their sexual orientation in their behaviors."{{ref\|apa??}} Some who have engaged in homosexual behavior have stopped and others will stop when they hear the gospel of Jesus Christ and are converted.

	Because of the strong correlation between identifying as gay or lesbian and having homosexual relationships, many members of the Church who are attracted to the same gender do not refer to themselves as gay. For members of the Church, our main identity is not the gender we are attracted to, but the fact that we are sons or daughters of God. As such, the Church does not refer to people as either gay or straight. Some may chose to continue to refer to themselves as gay or straight and they are welcome in the Church.		Because of the strong correlation between identifying as gay or lesbian and having homosexual relationships, many members of the Church who are attracted to the same gender do not refer to themselves as gay. For members of the Church, our main identity is not the gender we are attracted to, but the fact that we are sons or daughters of God. As such, the Church does not refer to people as either gay or straight. Some may chose to continue to refer to themselves as gay or straight and they are welcome in the Church.

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	"I weep with admiration and respect at the faith and courage of such a man who is living with a challenge I have never faced. I love him and the thousands like him, male or female, who 'fight the good fight' (1 Timothy 6:12). I commend his attitude to all who struggle with—or who are helping others who struggle with—same-gender attraction." {{ref\|holland07}}		"I weep with admiration and respect at the faith and courage of such a man who is living with a challenge I have never faced. I love him and the thousands like him, male or female, who 'fight the good fight' (1 Timothy 6:12). I commend his attitude to all who struggle with—or who are helping others who struggle with—same-gender attraction." {{ref\|holland07}}

			=== We affirm while teaching against same-sex relationships ===

			Some people argue that by teaching against homosexual relationships, the church places a stigma on those with same-sex attractions, since only they would have the desire to participate in homosexual relationships, and therefore they are not fully affirmed as equal members in the Church. This is no different than teaching against heterosexual relationships outside of marriage, since only people with opposite-sex attractions would have the desire to participate in heterosexual relationships, nor is it vastly different from teaching against abortions, since only those who have had a heterosexual relationship would have the ability to have an abortion. The Church isn't any more anti-gay than it is anti-straight. Just because we have a certain desire does not mean God intendeds us to act on it. Elder Nelson explains:

			"Every person on this planet has personal challenges. Some have challenges with same-sex attraction, some have problems with opposite-gender attraction that have to be controlled. We just can't live like biological specimens of some kind, responding to whatever urges; we have to discipline and control those things."{{ref\|mormonismmodern}}

			Everyone will have a desire to disobey some of the commandments of God. The exact nature of the desires vary from person to person. Because of the fall of Adam, all mankind has become "carnal, sensual, and devilish, by nature". (Alma 42:10) One of the reasons we have these desires is so that there can be an opposition in all things. (2 Nephi 2:11) If we were not enticed by the one or the other, we would not learn to distinguish good from evil and hence we really would not be able to act for ourselves.(2 Nephi 2:16) God gives us weaknesses so we can be humble and turn to him. (Ether 12:27) By yielding to God, we can overcome the natural tendency to sin, and become who God wants us to be, (Mosiah 3:19) but unless we had the desire to sin in the first place, we would have no need to repent and hence couldn't turn to God. (Alma 42:17) The fall of Adam and our subsequent desire to sin is an essential part of the plan of a loving God to ultimately bring us joy. (2 Nephi 2:25) Everyone seeking to be saved has to deal with the desire to sin and put off the natural man through the atonement of Christ. The desire for homosexual relationships is no different than any other desire to disobey the commandments of God.

			The Church affirms those with same-sex attractions who have a desire to have homosexual relationships, not by pretending that such relationships are not sinful, but by including them in a vast brotherhood of other mortals who are similarly dealing with the desires of the natural man.

	== The Church is helpful ==		== The Church is helpful ==

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	=== We welcome while teaching against same-sex relationships ===		=== We welcome while teaching against same-sex relationships ===

	Everyone is welcome to participate in our services, but to be a member one must first make a covenant to follow the commandments of God. Jesus Christ taught that we should abstain from fornication and adultery.{{ref\|Adultery}} This includes all relationships besides those between a husband and a wife. We are not at liberty to change the law for a segment of the population. People with same-sex attractions are subject to these laws as much as those with opposite-sex attractions. You cannot have a same-sex relationship without disobeying the commandments given to us by Jesus Christ. Elder Oaks explains:		Everyone is welcome to participate in our services, but to be a member one must first make a covenant to follow the commandments of God. Jesus Christ taught that we should abstain from fornication and adultery.{{ref\|Adultery}} This includes all relationships besides those between a husband and a wife. We are not at liberty to change the law for a segment of the population.{{ref\|packer01}} People with same-sex attractions are subject to these laws as much as those with opposite-sex attractions. You cannot have a same-sex relationship without disobeying the commandments given to us by Jesus Christ. Elder Oaks explains:

	"Homosexual behavior is and will always remain before the Lord an abominable sin."{{ref\|Oaks07}}		"Homosexual behavior is and will always remain before the Lord an abominable sin."{{ref\|Oaks07}}

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	\|doi=10.1177/0011000004267560		\|doi=10.1177/0011000004267560
	\|journal=The Counseling Psychologist		\|journal=The Counseling Psychologist
	\|pages=691}}. Each have discovered that there are people who are attracted to the same gender for whom gay affirmative therapy is not helpful. This has lead the American Psychological Associate to issue a statement which reads "Mental health professional organizations call on their members to respect a person's (client's) right to selfdetermination".[http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/orientation.aspx] When dealing with these patients, they have determined that the appropriate application of affirmative therapeutic interventions is one which "involves therapist acceptance, support, and understanding of clients and the facilitation of clients’ active coping, social support, and identity exploration and development, without imposing a specific sexual orientation identity outcome." [Report of the APA Task Force on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation c]		\|pages=691}}. Each have discovered that there are people who are attracted to the same gender for whom gay affirmative therapy is not helpful. This has lead the American Psychological Associate to issue a statement which reads "Mental health professional organizations call on their members to respect a person's (client's) right to selfdetermination".[http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/orientation.aspx] When dealing with these patients, they have determined that the appropriate application of affirmative therapeutic interventions is one which "involves therapist acceptance, support, and understanding of clients and the facilitation of clients’ active coping, social support, and identity exploration and development, without imposing a specific sexual orientation identity outcome." [Report of the APA Task Force on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/sexual-orientation.aspx]
	#{{note\|NotACivilRight}} Some have accused the Church of denying a group of people their civil right to marry based on their sexual orientation. This is not true. Nowhere is there any requirement based on sexual orientation in order to marry. People of all sexual orientations get married in all parts of the world. Many members with same-sex attractions have been able to form fulfilling and faithful marriages to people of the opposite sex. Marriage, as defined by God, is a union between a man and a woman, and everyone is allowed to participate. Political involvement by the Church has been focused on protecting this definition. Same-sex marriage is not really a marriage by the definition given by God and is therefore not a civil right. Elder Oaks explains: "The Church does not consider same-sex marriage to be a civil right. We have endured a wave of media-reported charges that the Mormons are trying to "deny" people or "strip" people of their "rights." After a significant majority of California voters (seven million - over 52 percent) approved Proposition 8’s limiting marriage to a man and a woman, some opponents characterized the vote as denying people their civil rights. In fact, the Proposition 8 battle was not about civil rights, but about what equal rights demand and what religious rights protect. At no time did anyone question or jeopardize the civil right of Proposition 8 opponents to vote or speak their views."		#{{note\|NotACivilRight}} Some have accused the Church of denying a group of people their civil right to marry based on their sexual orientation. This is not true. Nowhere is there any requirement based on sexual orientation in order to marry. People of all sexual orientations get married in all parts of the world. Many members with same-sex attractions have been able to form fulfilling and faithful marriages to people of the opposite sex. Marriage, as defined by God, is a union between a man and a woman, and everyone is allowed to participate. Political involvement by the Church has been focused on protecting this definition. Same-sex marriage is not really a marriage by the definition given by God and is therefore not a civil right. Elder Oaks explains: "The Church does not consider same-sex marriage to be a civil right. We have endured a wave of media-reported charges that the Mormons are trying to "deny" people or "strip" people of their "rights." After a significant majority of California voters (seven million - over 52 percent) approved Proposition 8’s limiting marriage to a man and a woman, some opponents characterized the vote as denying people their civil rights. In fact, the Proposition 8 battle was not about civil rights, but about what equal rights demand and what religious rights protect. At no time did anyone question or jeopardize the civil right of Proposition 8 opponents to vote or speak their views."
	#{{note\|oaks94}} (Dallin Oaks, "Our strengths can become our downfall, " Ensign, October, 1994, 19.		#{{note\|oaks94}} (Dallin Oaks, "Our strengths can become our downfall, " Ensign, October, 1994, 19.

JoshuaJohanson: /* Endnotes */ changed gay to SSA

2010-05-11T23:35:34Z

Endnotes: changed gay to SSA

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	\|doi=10.1177/0011000004267560		\|doi=10.1177/0011000004267560
	\|journal=The Counseling Psychologist		\|journal=The Counseling Psychologist
	\|pages=691}}. Each have discovered that there are ~~gay~~ people for whom gay affirmative therapy is not helpful. This has lead the American Psychological Associate to issue a statement which reads "Mental health professional organizations call on their members to respect a person's (client's) right to selfdetermination".[http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/orientation.aspx] When dealing with these ~~gay~~ patients, they have determined that the appropriate application of affirmative therapeutic interventions is one which "involves therapist acceptance, support, and understanding of clients and the facilitation of clients’ active coping, social support, and identity exploration and development, without imposing a specific sexual orientation identity outcome." [Report of the APA Task Force on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation ~~http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/sexual-orientation.aspx~~]		\|pages=691}}. Each have discovered that there are people who are attracted to the same gender for whom gay affirmative therapy is not helpful. This has lead the American Psychological Associate to issue a statement which reads "Mental health professional organizations call on their members to respect a person's (client's) right to selfdetermination".[http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/orientation.aspx] When dealing with these patients, they have determined that the appropriate application of affirmative therapeutic interventions is one which "involves therapist acceptance, support, and understanding of clients and the facilitation of clients’ active coping, social support, and identity exploration and development, without imposing a specific sexual orientation identity outcome." [Report of the APA Task Force on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation c]
	#{{note\|NotACivilRight}} Some have accused the Church of denying a group of people their civil right to marry based on their sexual orientation. This is not true. Nowhere is there any requirement based on sexual orientation in order to marry. People of all sexual orientations get married in all parts of the world. Many members with same-sex attractions have been able to form fulfilling and faithful marriages to people of the opposite sex. Marriage, as defined by God, is a union between a man and a woman, and everyone is allowed to participate. Political involvement by the Church has been focused on protecting this definition. Same-sex marriage is not really a marriage by the definition given by God and is therefore not a civil right. Elder Oaks explains: "The Church does not consider same-sex marriage to be a civil right. We have endured a wave of media-reported charges that the Mormons are trying to "deny" people or "strip" people of their "rights." After a significant majority of California voters (seven million - over 52 percent) approved Proposition 8’s limiting marriage to a man and a woman, some opponents characterized the vote as denying people their civil rights. In fact, the Proposition 8 battle was not about civil rights, but about what equal rights demand and what religious rights protect. At no time did anyone question or jeopardize the civil right of Proposition 8 opponents to vote or speak their views."		#{{note\|NotACivilRight}} Some have accused the Church of denying a group of people their civil right to marry based on their sexual orientation. This is not true. Nowhere is there any requirement based on sexual orientation in order to marry. People of all sexual orientations get married in all parts of the world. Many members with same-sex attractions have been able to form fulfilling and faithful marriages to people of the opposite sex. Marriage, as defined by God, is a union between a man and a woman, and everyone is allowed to participate. Political involvement by the Church has been focused on protecting this definition. Same-sex marriage is not really a marriage by the definition given by God and is therefore not a civil right. Elder Oaks explains: "The Church does not consider same-sex marriage to be a civil right. We have endured a wave of media-reported charges that the Mormons are trying to "deny" people or "strip" people of their "rights." After a significant majority of California voters (seven million - over 52 percent) approved Proposition 8’s limiting marriage to a man and a woman, some opponents characterized the vote as denying people their civil rights. In fact, the Proposition 8 battle was not about civil rights, but about what equal rights demand and what religious rights protect. At no time did anyone question or jeopardize the civil right of Proposition 8 opponents to vote or speak their views."
	#{{note\|oaks94}} (Dallin Oaks, "Our strengths can become our downfall, " Ensign, October, 1994, 19.		#{{note\|oaks94}} (Dallin Oaks, "Our strengths can become our downfall, " Ensign, October, 1994, 19.

JoshuaJohanson: /* The Church is welcoming */ Previous version made it sound like we only love people who obey the commandments. We love everyone.

2010-05-11T23:08:08Z

The Church is welcoming: Previous version made it sound like we only love people who obey the commandments. We love everyone.

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	Like all of God's children, the Church teaches that people who are attracted to the same sex are beloved sons and daughters of God and are loved by the Church and its leaders. Note the ~~qualification~~, however, that the commandments must be kept.		Like all of God's children, the Church teaches that people who are attracted to the same sex are beloved sons and daughters of God and are loved by the Church and its leaders. Note the expectation, however, that the commandments must be kept.

	In one of the Church's first pamphlets geared towards homosexuality, President Kimball reminds the readers to:		In one of the Church's first pamphlets geared towards homosexuality, President Kimball reminds the readers to: