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| − | "Somebody could walk into this room<br>
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| − | And say your life is on fire.<br>
| + | Et finallement, finalement<br> |
| − | It's all over the evening news,<br>
| + | Il nous a fallu bien du talent<br> |
| − | All about the fire in your life on the evening news."<br>
| + | D'être vieux sans être adulte....<br> |
| − | :- Paul Simon, "Crazy Love, Vol. II," ''Graceland'' album (1986). | + | :- Jacques Brel, «Chanson des vieux amants» |
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| − | DNA draft:
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| − | ==Criticism==
| + | * [http://fr.fairmormon.org/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Locateur_seconde Test] |
| − | DNA samples taken from modern Native Americans do not match the DNA of modern inhabitants of the Middle East. Critics argue that this means the Book of Mormon's claim that Native Americans are descended from Lehi must be false, and therefore the Book of Mormon is not an ancient record as Joseph Smith claimed.
| + | * [[Cat%C3%A9gorie:Locateur_seconde Test|Test 2]] |
| | + | * {{b|1|Samuel|1|20}} |
| | + | * {{b|2|Peter|1|3-5}} |
| | + | * {{b||Genesis|5|3}} |
| | + | * {{s|1|Nephi|5|2}} |
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| − | ===Sources of the Criticism===
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| − | *Thomas W. Murphy, "Lamanite Genesis, Genealogy, and Genetics," in Dan Vogel and Brent Lee Metcalfe, eds., ''American Apocrypha: Essays on the Book of Mormon'' (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 2002).
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| − | *Simon G. Southerton, ''Losing a Lost Tribe : Native Americans, DNA, and the Mormon Church'' (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 2004).
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| − | ==Response==
| + | *[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions ParserFunctions]: #if et al. |
| − | | + | *[[Template:BackupGLS:InsightsGLS]] - Backup of Insights code |
| − | Few criticisms of the Church have received as much media attention as this criticism, with so little thought and science being applied to the question. DNA attacks against the Book of Mormon account fail on numerous grounds.
| + | *[[InsightsList:Summary]] - Backup of nav tool and list |
| − | | + | *[http://fr.fairmormon.org/MediaWiki:Sidebar Side bar editing] |
| − | ===Initial considerations===
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| − | * no tests designed to test the hypothesis | + | Scriptpath: {{scriptpath}} |
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| − | Articles which provide an over-view of basic genetic principles:
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-6}} <!-- Butler - Addressing-->
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-6}} <!-- McClellan - Detecting-->
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| − | ===A Question of Geographies===
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| − | It is important, as when setting out to answer any scientific question, to define the question which DNA-based attacks are attempting to answer. This requires that we establish a Book of Mormon model for potential testing. Any Book of Mormon model based in real history must address the issue of geographic scope.
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| − | The Book of Mormon account has been understood by the LDS in at least two broad [[Book of Mormon geography|geographical contexts]]:
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| − | # a hemispheric model (Click [[Book_of_Mormon_geography:New_World:HGT|here]] to read more about such models.)
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| − | # a limited geographic model (Click [[Book_of_Mormon_geography:New_World:LGT|here]] to read more about such models.)
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| − | Details on these models are available in the links above; it is assumed that the reader of this article is familiar with these concepts, and they will not be elaborated on here.
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| − | However, DNA attacks on the Book of Mormon are arguably futile, regardless of which geographical model one adopts. Some geographic models pose problems for the DNA attacks which other models do not. This article will therefore examine the DNA issue from a variety of angles, and provide links for further reading which address the various models.
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| − | ====Limited geography models====
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| − | Many Book of Mormon readers, especially during the last sixty years, have read the Book of Mormon text as requiring a relatively small geographic area within the Americas. Such readings predate issues of DNA and genetics by decades, and are not (as the critics sometimes claim) desperate "rear-guard" actions to defend the Book of Mormon against the awesome onslaught of DNA science! Such claims are ridiculous, as a review of the history of such ideas shows.{{ref|roper1}}
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| − | LDS readers who accept a limited geography model would find it unsurprising (and even expected) that the majority of Amerindian DNA does not match purported "Lehite" DNA. Under the limited geography model, a relatively small number of Lehites landed in the Americas. This small initial population eventually intermarried with other populations in the hemisphere. Over a period of 2600 years, any initial Lehite "signature" would be hopelessly 'swamped' by other peoples' genetic markers. Just as a drop of red dye will not turn a whole swimming pool red (though the red is still "in" the swimming pool), a few Lehites added to a limited geography model's hemisphere of inhabitants will have little or no detectable genetic influence today, except by the greatest coincidence.
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| − | Critics such as Murphy and Southerton ignored this option completely, demonstrating their complete ignorance of much LDS thought on the matter in the past sixty years. Many articles have discussed the DNA issue from this perspective, including the following:
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-6}} <!-- McClellan - Detecting-->
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-7}} <!--Roper - Nephi's neigh-->
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-8}} <!-- Roper - Swimming-->
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| − | * {{FR-16-2-5}} <!--Tvedtnes Reinventing-->
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| − | ====Hemispheric geography model, type 1====
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| − | Other Latter-day Saints have understood the Book of Mormon on a more "hemispheric" scale, with the "narrow neck of land" being in Panama, and the final battle site being located in New York, in the hill in which Joseph Smith recovered the plates.
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| − | Thus, this model anticipates that Book of Mormon history played out over much of the continent. However, it is here labeled as a "type 1" model, because it does not require that Lehi be the sole "source" of population for the Americas. Jaredite remnants may have intermarried with Lehite/Mulekite peoples, contributing foreign DNA markers. Other peoples unmentioned in the Book of Mormon may have immigrated to the hemisphere before, during, and/or after the Book of Mormon time frame, and provided DNA foreign to Lehi's group. These additions could have played a major, even dominant role in the genetic history of the continent (in which case the DNA attacks can be answered in a fashion similar to the 'limited geography model' as above) or they may have provided a more modest contribution which is nevertheless sufficient to "muddy the waters" when the other uncertainties of assigning DNA origins to mixed populations come into play.
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| − | Articles which discuss LDS views on "other Americans" being added to the mix of Book of Mormon peoples (which do not require a limited geography model to maintain their force) include:
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-6}} <!-- Butler - Addressing-->
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-7}} <<!--Roper - Nephi's neigh-->
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-8}} <!-- Roper - Swimming-->
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| − | Articles which do not invoke any type of "limited geography" in their discussion include:
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-7}} <!--Stewart -- DNA and the Book of Mormon--> {{NB}}
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| − | ====Hemispheric geography model, type 2====
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| − | This model might be best described as an "empty continent, Lehite-only" model. Under this model, the American continent was completely empty of any human inhabitants prior to the Jaredites (though previous to the Jaredites, other peoples could have been present who were subsequently eradicated, leaving no genetic contribution to subsequent populations.) The Jaredites were then utterly and completely destroyed (except Coriantumr—see {{s||Omni|1|21}}, whose contribution was either negligible or non-existent to the Mulekite gene pool) and replaced by Lehite/Mulekite immigrants, who were likewise the ''only'' source of humans in the Americas, giving rise to all (or nearly all) of the present Amerindian population.
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| − | Of all the models discussed thus far, this is the only variant to which the DNA data poses any significant challenge at all, though many of the issues discussed below also apply to DNA testing the Book of Mormon's claims with this model.
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| − | Articles which do not invoke any type of "limited geography" in their discussion include:
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-7}} <!--Stewart -- DNA and the Book of Mormon--> {{NB}}
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| − | ====Hemispheric geography model, type 3====
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| − | Under this model, the Americas has had no inhabitants ''except'' those mentioned in the Book of Mormon. Thus, Jaredites, Mulekites, and Lehites are the only inhabitants the New World has seen before Columbus.
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| − | A larger problem for this model than DNA evidence is archaeological evidence of human habitation thousands of years prior to the Nephites (which would have to be explained by either appealing to dating errors, or ascribing all such remains to Jaredites). This model is arguably the most challenged by current DNA science—and science in general—but it is also the least likely model supported by the Book of Mormon text itself.
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| − | ===Are all Amerindians descendants of Lehi?===
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| − | Articles which address the issue of relatively few, recent common ancestors of large groups of people (or the entire human population) include:
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-6}} <!-- Butler - Addressing-->
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-8}} <!-- Roper - Swimming-->
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-9}} <!--Stubbs - Elusive Israel-->
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| − | Articles which consider that "Asian" DNA and Lehite DNA may actually correspond due to an earlier common source:
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-7}} <!--Stewart -- DNA and the Book of Mormon-->
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| − | ===Fundamentalist "suicide bombing"===
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-1}} <!--Peterson - Editor's intro-->
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-7}} <!--Stewart -- DNA and the Book of Mormon-->
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| − | ===Hardy-Weinberg===
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-6}} <!-- McClellan - Detecting-->
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| − | ===Mitochondrial DNA (mDNA)===
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-6}} <!-- McClellan - Detecting-->
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-7}} <!--Stewart -- DNA and the Book of Mormon-->
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| − | ====Lemba and Cohen modal haplotype====
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-8}} <!-- Roper - Swimming-->
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-7}} <!--Stewart -- DNA and the Book of Mormon-->{{NB}}
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| − | ===Y-Chromosome DNA===
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-6}} <!-- McClellan - Detecting-->
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-7}} <!--Stewart -- DNA and the Book of Mormon-->
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| − | ===What about the Jaredites?===
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| − | ===What Jewish DNA?===
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| − | Articles which discuss the various criteria (and the difficulties involved) for identifying "Jewishness" via DNA include:
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-6}} <!-- Butler - Addressing-->
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| − | * {{FR-17-1-5}} <!-- Parr - missing-->
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-1}} <!--Peterson - Editor's intro-->
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| − | * {{FR-18-1-7}} <!--Stewart -- DNA and the Book of Mormon-->
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| − | * {{FR-15-2-9}} <!--Stubbs - Elusive Israel-->
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| − | ===90% death rate with European contact===
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| − | ==Conclusion==
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| − | ==Endnotes==
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| − | #{{note|roper1}}For the history of the LGT, see {{FR-16-2-12}}
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