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==Introduction==
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==Table of Contents==
* Moroni's Visitation
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===Introduction===
**{{FAIR response|Moroni's visit}}
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*{{FAIR response|Website reviews/MormonThink}}
***[[Moroni's visit/Joseph reported "a spirit" visiting in him in 1827]]
 
***[[FAIR response|Moroni's visit/Siblings remained asleep]]
 
***[[FAIR response|Moroni's visit/Nephi or Moroni]]
 
  
==Book of Mormon Translation==
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===Moroni's Visitation===
**{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon/Translation}}
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*{{FAIR response|Moroni's visit}}
***[[Book of Mormon/Translation/Method]]
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**[[Moroni's visit/Joseph reported "a spirit" visiting in him in 1827]]
**[[Book of Mormon/Translation/The lost 116 pages]]
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**[[Moroni's visit/Siblings remained asleep]]
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**[[Moroni's visit/Nephi or Moroni]]
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===Book of Mormon Translation===
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*{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon/Translation}}
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**[[Book of Mormon/Translation/Method]]
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***[[Book of Mormon/Translation/The lost 116 pages]]
 
**[[Joseph Smith/Seer stones]]
 
**[[Joseph Smith/Seer stones]]
  
==Book of Mormon Problems==
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===Book of Mormon Problems===
**{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon/Anachronisms}}
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*{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon/Anachronisms}}
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===Could Joseph Have Written the BOM?===
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*{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon}}
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**[[Book of Mormon/Plagiarism accusations]]
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**[[Book of Mormon/Wordprint studies]]
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===Book of Abraham===
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*{{FAIR response|Book of Abraham}}
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**[[Book of Abraham/Book of the Dead]]
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**[[Book of Abraham/Papyri]]
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**[[Kirtland Egyptian Papers]]
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**[[Book of Abraham/Plagiarism accusations]]
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***[[Book of Abraham/Plagiarism accusations/Thomas Dick|''Philosophy of a Future State'' by Thomas Dick]]
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**[[Book of Abraham/Hits|Things that Joseph got right]]
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===Lost 116 Pages===
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*{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon/Translation/The lost 116 pages}}
  
==Could Joseph Have Written the BOM?==
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===Kinderhook Plates===
**{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon/Plagiarism accusations}}
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*{{FAIR response|Kinderhook Plates}}
**{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon/Wordprint studies}}
 
  
==Book of Abraham==
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===The Witnesses===
**{{FAIR response|Book of Abraham}}
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*{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon witnesses}}
***{{FAIR response|Book of Abraham/Book of the Dead|l1=Book of the Dead}}
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**[[Book of Mormon witnesses/David Whitmer told to leave]]
****{{FAIR response|Book of Abraham/Book of Dead Scan (full size zoom)|l1=Book of Dead Scan (full size zoom)}
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**[[Book of Mormon witnesses/Strangite parallels]]
**{{FAIR response|Book of Abraham/Papyri|l1=Papyri (Short article)}}
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**[[Book of Mormon witnesses/Hypnotism]]
**{{FAIR response|Book of Abraham/Papyri|l1=Long article|Papyri (Long article)}}
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**[[Book of Mormon witnesses/Recant]]
**{{FAIR response|Kirtland Egyptian Papers}}
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***[[Book of Mormon witnesses/Recant/Did Oliver admit hoax|Cowdery's law partner claims Oliver admitted it was a hoax?]]
**{{FAIR response|Book of Abraham/Plagiarism accusations|l1=Plagiarism accusations}}
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**[[Book of Mormon witnesses/Character]]
***{{FAIR response|Book of Abraham/Plagiarism accusations/Thomas Dick|l1=''Philosophy of a Future State'' by Thomas Dick}}
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**[[Book of Mormon witnesses/Spiritual or literal]]
**{{FAIR response|Book of Abraham/Hits|Hits]]
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**[[Book of Mormon witnesses/Eight witnesses]]
* Lost 116 Pages
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***[[Book of Mormon witnesses/Eight witnesses/shown to me by a supernatural power]]
**{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon/Translation/The lost 116 pages}}
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**[[Book of Mormon witnesses/Other Book of Mormon witnesses]]
* Kinderhook Plates
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*{{FAIR response|The Hurlbut affidavits}}
**{{FAIR response|Kinderhook Plates}}
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*{{FAIR response|Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic}}
* The Witnesses
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**[[Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/The magician Walters as a mentor to Joseph Smith|The magician Walters as a mentor to Joseph Smith?]]
**{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon witnesses}}
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***{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon witnesses/David Whitmer told to leave}}
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===First Vision===
***{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon witnesses/Strangite parallels}}
 
***{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon witnesses/Hypnotism}}
 
***{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon witnesses/Recant}}
 
***{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon witnesses/Character}}
 
***{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon witnesses/Spiritual or literal}}
 
***{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon witnesses/Eight witnesses}}
 
****{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon witnesses/Eight witnesses/shown to me by a supernatural power}}
 
***{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon witnesses/Other Book of Mormon witnesses}}
 
* First Vision
 
 
*{{FAIR response|First Vision}}
 
*{{FAIR response|First Vision}}
*[[First Vision/Methodist camp meetings|Methodist camp meetings in 1820]]
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**[[First Vision/Methodist camp meetings|Methodist camp meetings in 1820]]
*[[First Vision/Joseph became "partial to the Methodist sect" in 1820|Joseph became "partial" to Methodists]]
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**[[First Vision/Joseph became "partial to the Methodist sect" in 1820|Joseph became "partial" to Methodists]]
*[[First Vision/Religious revivals in 1820|Religious revivals in 1820]]
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**[[First Vision/Religious revivals in 1820|Religious revivals in 1820]]
*[[First Vision/Smith family place of residence in 1820|Place of residence in 1820]]
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**[[First Vision/Smith family place of residence in 1820|Place of residence in 1820]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts|First Vision accounts (summary)]]
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**[[First Vision/Accounts|First Vision accounts (summary)]]
**[[First Vision/Accounts/1832|1832 account (overview)]]
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***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832|1832 account (overview)]]
***[[First Vision/Joseph Smith's early conception of God|Early understanding of God?]]
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****[[First Vision/Joseph Smith's early conception of God|Early understanding of God?]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't mention new dispensation|No new dispensation?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't mention new dispensation|No new dispensation?]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Different age provided|Different age?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Different age provided|Different age?]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Motivation is different|Different motivation?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Motivation is different|Different motivation?]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't mention persecution|No persecution?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't mention persecution|No persecution?]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't mention a revival|No revival?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't mention a revival|No revival?]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't forbid joining a church|Not forbidden to convert?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Doesn't forbid joining a church|Not forbidden to convert?]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Says wicked will be destroyed but 1838 doesn't|Wicked destroyed?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Says wicked will be destroyed but 1838 doesn't|Wicked destroyed?]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Only one Personage appears|Only one Deity?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Only one Personage appears|Only one Deity?]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Vision set in heaven or on earth|In heaven or earth?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Vision set in heaven or on earth|In heaven or earth?]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Eternal life regardless of church affiliation|Unconditional salvation?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Eternal life regardless of church affiliation|Unconditional salvation?]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Struggle with Satan not mentioned|Struggle with Satan?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1832/Struggle with Satan not mentioned|Struggle with Satan?]]
**[[First Vision/Accounts/1835|1835 account (overview)]]
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***[[First Vision/Accounts/1835|1835 account (overview)]]
***[[First Vision/Accounts/1835/Mentions "Angels"|Personages were angels?]]
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****[[First Vision/Accounts/1835/Mentions "Angels"|Personages were angels?]]
**[[First Vision/Accounts/1838|1838 account (overview)]]
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***[[First Vision/Accounts/1838|1838 account (overview)]]
***[[First Vision/Religious revivals in 1820|1820 Revival?]]
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****[[First Vision/Religious revivals in 1820|1820 Revival?]]
***[[First Vision/Methodist camp meetings|"It commenced with the Methodists"]]
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****[[First Vision/Methodist camp meetings|"It commenced with the Methodists"]]
*[[First Vision/Paul's accounts|Paul's accounts of his vision]]
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**[[First Vision/No reference to First Vision in 1830s publications|No ref in 1830s publications?]]
**[[First Vision/Do Greek scholars solve the discrepancies in Paul's vision accounts|Scholars solved discrepancies?]]
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**[[First Vision/Seldom mentioned in LDS publications before 1877|Seldom mentioned in LDS pubs bef 1877?]]
*[[First Vision/Doctrine and Covenants 84 says God not seen without priesthood|Can't see God without priesthood?]]
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**[[First Vision/No mention in non-LDS literature before 1843|No ref in non-LDS pubs before 1843?]]
*[[First Vision/No reference to First Vision in 1830s publications|No ref in 1830s publications?]]
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**[[First Vision/1830 statement about seeing "God"|Taught Joseph saw "God" in 1830 pub?]]
*[[First Vision/Seldom mentioned in LDS publications before 1877|Seldom mentioned in LDS pubs bef 1877?]]
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**[[First Vision/Lack of contemporary Father and Son vision until 1838|No published ref to Father and Son until 1838?]]
*[[First Vision/No mention in non-LDS literature before 1843|No ref in non-LDS pubs before 1843?]]
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**[[First Vision/Joseph Smith did not know if God existed in 1823|Joseph unsure of God in 1823?]]
*[[First Vision/1830 statement about seeing "God"|Taught Joseph saw "God" in 1830 pub?]]
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**[[First Vision/Lucy Mack Smith and the Presbyterians|Lucy joined Presbyterians in 1823?]]
*[[First Vision/Lack of contemporary Father and Son vision until 1838|No published ref to Father and Son until 1838?]]
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**[[First Vision/Joseph Smith joined other churches|Joined other churches?]]
*[[First Vision/Joseph Smith did not know if God existed in 1823|Joseph unsure of God in 1823?]]
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**[[First Vision/Contradiction about knowing all churches were wrong|All churches wrong?]]
*[[First Vision/Lucy Mack Smith and the Presbyterians|Lucy joined Presbyterians in 1823?]]
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**[[First Vision/Fabricated to give "Godly authority"|Fabricated to bolster authority?]]
*[[First Vision/Joseph Smith joined other churches|Joined other churches?]]
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**[[First Vision/Story became more detailed and colorful after 1832|Details added over time?]]
*[[First Vision/Contradiction about knowing all churches were wrong|All churches wrong?]]
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**[[First Vision/Accounts/1838/Account modified to offset leadership crisis|Created to offset leadership crisis?]]
*[[First Vision/Fabricated to give "Godly authority"|Fabricated to bolster authority?]]
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*[[First Vision/Story became more detailed and colorful after 1832|Details added over time?]]
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===Polygamy===
*[[First Vision/Accounts/1838/Account modified to offset leadership crisis|Created to offset leadership crisis?]]
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*{{FAIR response|Joseph_Smith_and_polygamy}}
*[[First Vision/Accounts/George Q. Cannon referred to "angels"|George Q. Cannon]]
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**[[Joseph_Smith and polygamy/Marriages to young women|Marriages to young women]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts/Oliver Cowdery not aware of First Vision in 1834-35|Cowdery version of 1834-5?]]
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**[[Joseph Smith and polygamy/Lustful motives|Lustful motives?]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts/Orson Hyde referred to "angels"|Orson Hyde]]
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**[[Joseph Smith and polygamy/Children of polygamous marriages]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts/Andrew Jenson called personage an "angel"|Andrew Jenson]]
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***[[Polygamy book/Initiation_of_the_practice|When did it start?]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts/Heber C. Kimball denied the Father appeared|Heber C. Kimball|]]
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***[[Plural_marriage_spiritual_manifestations|Spiritual witnesses]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts/Orson Pratt confused about "angel" or Father-Son|Orson Pratt]]
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***[[Book_of_Mormon_condemns_polygamy]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts/George A. Smith said First Vision was an "angel"|George A. Smith]]
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***[[Contradiction_between_D%26C_132_and_Jacob_2|D&C vs. Jacob 2]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts/Prophet's mother said First Vision was of an "angel"|Lucy Mack Smith]]
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***[[1835 Doctrine and Covenants denies polygamy|1835 D&C denial]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts/Orson Spencer said an "angel" was the first manifestation|Orson Spencer]]
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***[[Joseph_Smith_and_polyandry|Polyandry]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts/John Taylor's understanding of the First Vision|John Taylor]]
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**[[Emma_Smith_and_polygamy|Emma Smith]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts/Brigham Young never mentioned the First Vision|Brigham never spoke of 1st vision?]]
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**[[Joseph_Smith_and_polyandry|Wives already married?]]
*[[First Vision/Accounts/Brigham Young said the Lord didn't appear|Brigham claimed an angel?]]
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**[[Early_Christians_on_plural_marriage|Early Christian attitudes]]
*[[First Vision/Seldom mentioned in LDS publications before 1877|Seldom published pre-1877 (short)]]
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**[[Polygamy_a_requirement_for_exaltation|Required for exaltation?]]
*[[First Vision/Seldom mentioned in LDS publications before 1877 (long)|(long)]]
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**[[Brigham_Young_in_JD_11%2C_page_269|Brigham in JD 11:269]]
* Polygamy
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**[[Did_early_Church_leaders_speak_of_plural_marriage_difficulties%3F|Difficulties?]]
* Prophets After Joseph
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**[[Brigham_Young_and_polygamy|Hiding Brigham's history?]]
* Blacks & Priesthood
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**[[The Law of Adoption|Law of Adoption]]
* Conflicts With Science
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**[[Official_Declaration%26mdash%3B1|Manifesto & politics?]]
* Testimony & Spiritual Witnesses
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**[[Polygamy_after_the_Manifesto|Post-Manifesto marriages]]
* Greek Psalter Incident
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**[[Polygamy_and_the_modern_Church|Modern Church]]
* Temple
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* Lying For The Lord
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===Prophets After Joseph===
* Tithing
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*{{FAIR response|Revelation after Joseph Smith|Official Church doctrine and statements by Church leaders|Changing doctrine|General authorities' statements as scripture|Official Church publications}}
* Conclusions
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===Blacks & Priesthood===
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*{{FAIR response|Blacks and the priesthood}}
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**[[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Deny based on race|Blessings denied by race?]]
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**[[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Origin of the priesthood ban|Origins of the ban]]
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**[[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/The_"curse_of_Cain"_and_"curse_of_Ham"|The "curse of Cain" and "curse of Ham"]]
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**[[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Understanding_pre-1978_statements|Understanding pre-1978 statements]]
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**[[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/LDS scriptures|LDS scripture and the ban]]
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**[[Slavery in Utah|Slavery in Utah?]]
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**[[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Lifting the ban|Lifting the ban]]
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**[[Skin color in LDS thought]]
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**[[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Social pressure|Social pressure and the ban?]]
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**[[Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Repudiated ideas|Repudiated ideas]]
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*[[Lamanite curse]]
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*[[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Use_of_sources/Double_standard_on_race|Protestant critics' double standard on race: a case study]]
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*[[Racist statements by Church leaders]]
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**[[Blacks go to heaven as slaves|Do blacks go to heaven as slaves?]]
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**[[Brigham Young on race mixing|Death the penalty for race mixing?]]
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===Conflicts With Science===
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*{{FAIR response|Mormonism and science}}
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===Testimony & Spiritual Witnesses===
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*{{FAIR response|Burning in the bosom}}
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===Greek Psalter Incident===
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*{{FAIR response|Joseph Smith/Translator/Greek psalter}}
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===Temple===
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===Lying For The Lord===
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*{{FAIR response|"Lying for the Lord"}}
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===Tithing===
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*{{FAIR response|Tithing}}
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**[[Tithing/How is tithing calculated|How is tithing calculated?]]
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===Conclusions===
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==More Topics==
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===The Name of the Church===
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*{{FAIR response|Name of the Church}}
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===Nephi or Moroni===
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*{{FAIR response|Moroni's visit/Nephi or Moroni}}
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===Joseph Running with the Gold Plates===
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===Rod of Aaron===
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*{{FAIR response|Oliver Cowdery and the "rod of nature"}}
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===Influences on the Book of Mormon - by Tom Donofrio===
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*{{FAIR response|Book of Mormon/Plagiarism accusations}}
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**[[Book of Mormon/Plagiarism accusations/Apocrypha|Apocrypha]]
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**[[Book of Mormon plagiarized from the Bible|The King James Bible]]
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** [[Book of Mormon/Plagiarism accusations/Shakespeare|Shakespeare]]
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**[[Book of Mormon and Spaulding manuscript|The Spalding manuscript]]
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===Joseph's Translation of the Bible===
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*{{FAIR response|Joseph Smith Translation}}
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**[[Joseph Smith Translation/As a restoration of the original Bible text|As a restoration of the original Bible text?]]
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**[[Joseph Smith Translation/As the Church's official Bible|As the Church's official Bible?]]
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***[[Joseph Smith Translation/As the Church's official Bible/JST an embarrassment to leaders|JST an embarrassment to leaders?]]
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**[[Joseph Smith Translation/Relationship to the Book of Mormon|Relationship to the Book of Mormon]]
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===Zelph===
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*{{FAIR response|Zelph}}
  
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==Other==
  
More Topics
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===FAIR reviews MormonThink===
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*{{FAIR response|Website reviews/MormonThink}}
  
* The Name of the Church
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===Mormon Podcasts===
**{{FAIR response|Name of the Church]]
 
* Nephi or Moroni
 
**{{FAIR response|Moroni's visit/Nephi or Moroni}}
 
* Joseph Running with the Gold Plates
 
* Rod of Aaron
 
**{{FAIR response|Oliver Cowdery and the "rod of nature"}}
 
* Influences on the Book of Mormon - by Tom Donofrio
 
* Joseph's Translation of the Bible
 
**{{FAIR response|Joseph Smith Translation}}
 
***{{FAIR response|Joseph Smith Translation/As a restoration of the original Bible text|l1=As a restoration of the original Bible text?}}
 
***{{FAIR response|Joseph Smith Translation/As the Church's official Bible|l1=As the Church's official Bible?}}
 
****{{FAIR response|Joseph Smith Translation/As the Church's official Bible/JST an embarrassment to leaders|l1=JST an embarrassment to leaders?}}
 
***{{FAIR response|Joseph Smith Translation/Relationship to the Book of Mormon|l1=Relationship to the Book of Mormon}}
 
* Zelph
 
**{{FAIR response|Zelph}}
 
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Other
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===Personal Stories & LDS Heretics===
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*{{FAIR response|An Insider's View of Mormon Origins|l1=FAIR analyzes Grant Palmer's book ''An Insider's View of Mormon Origins''}}
  
* FAIR reviews MormonThink
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===Book of Mormon Studies===
**{{FAIR response|Website reviews/MormonThink}}
 
* Mormon Podcasts
 
* Personal Stories & LDS Heretics
 
* Book of Mormon Studies
 

Version actuelle datée du 13 septembre 2009 à 06:59

Index of MormonThink's Table of Contents to responses in the FAIR Wiki

The following index correlates the Table of Contents on the MormonThink web site with responses in the FAIR Wiki.

Table of Contents

Introduction

Moroni's Visitation

Book of Mormon Translation

Book of Mormon Problems

Could Joseph Have Written the BOM?

Book of Abraham

Lost 116 Pages

Kinderhook Plates

The Witnesses

First Vision

Polygamy

Prophets After Joseph

Blacks & Priesthood

Conflicts With Science

Testimony & Spiritual Witnesses

Greek Psalter Incident

Temple

Lying For The Lord

Tithing

Conclusions

More Topics

The Name of the Church

Nephi or Moroni

Joseph Running with the Gold Plates

Rod of Aaron

Influences on the Book of Mormon - by Tom Donofrio

Joseph's Translation of the Bible

Zelph

Other

FAIR reviews MormonThink

Mormon Podcasts

Personal Stories & LDS Heretics

Book of Mormon Studies