FAIR is a non-profit organization dedicated to providing well-documented answers to criticisms of the doctrine, practice, and history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Criticism of Mormonism/Books/American Massacre/Chapter 12
< Criticism of Mormonism | Books | American Massacre
Revision as of 14:41, 30 March 2015 by RogerNicholson (talk | contribs) (→Response to claim: 165 - Brigham Young had "seen to it that Van Vliet heard nothing of Mountain Meadows")
- REDIRECTTemplate:Test3
Contents
- 1 Response to claims made in Chapter 12: "Camp Scott, November 16, 1857"
- 1.1 Response to claim: 165 - Brigham Young had "seen to it that Van Vliet heard nothing of Mountain Meadows"
- 1.2 Others often discussed in conjunction with the Mountain Meadows Massacre
- 1.3 Response to claim: 165 - Brigham did not preach the sermon at the church meeting attended by Van Vliet because he was "too furious to conduct the service"
- 1.4 Response to claim: 165 - Brigham made an "oblique but unrecognized reference to the massacre at Mountain Meadows" to Van Vliet"
- 1.5 Response to claim: 167 - "any man who defied Young's orders would be put to death"
- 1.5.2 FAIR's Response
Response to claims made in Chapter 12: "Camp Scott, November 16, 1857"
| Chapter 11 | A FAIR Analysis of: American Massacre: The Tragedy at Mountain Meadows A work by author: Sally Denton
|
Chapter 13 |
Response to claim: 165 - Brigham Young had "seen to it that Van Vliet heard nothing of Mountain Meadows"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The author claims that during meetings with U.S. Army Quartermaster Captain Stewart Van Vliet, Brigham Young had "seen to it that Van Vliet heard nothing of Mountain Meadows," and that the "Mormon leaders worried that if van Vliet relayed news of the situation to Johnston, an invasion of Utah Territory would be expedited."Author's sources: No source provided for this particular claim, although the following citation is Van Vliet quoted in T.B.H. Stenhouse, Rocky Mountain Saints: a full and complete history of the Mormons, from the first vision of Joseph Smith to the last courtship of Brigham Young (New York: D. Appleton and Company, 1873), 357.
FAIR's Response
Others often discussed in conjunction with the Mountain Meadows Massacre
Jump to details:
Response to claim: 165 - Brigham did not preach the sermon at the church meeting attended by Van Vliet because he was "too furious to conduct the service"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The author claims that Brigham did not preach the sermon at the church meeting attended by Van Vliet because he was "too furious to conduct the service."Author's sources: No source provided. Likely Stenhouse.
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: 165 - Brigham made an "oblique but unrecognized reference to the massacre at Mountain Meadows" to Van Vliet"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The author claims that Brigham made an "oblique but unrecognized reference to the massacre at Mountain Meadows" to Van Vliet when he said "if the government dare to force the issue, I shall not hold the Indians by the wrist any longer...you may tell the government to stop all emigration across the continent, for the Indians will kill all who attempt it."Author's sources: Bancroft, 505.
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: 167 - "any man who defied Young's orders would be put to death"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The author states that "any man who defied Young's orders would be put to death was made evident in his statement 'When the time comes to burn and lay waste our improvements, if any man undertakes to shield his, he will be sheared down.'"Author's sources:
- Young quoted in Waite, 50.
- See Brigham Young, (13 Sept 1857) Journal of Discourses 5:232.
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: 172 - "droves of Saints leaving California for Utah" and "a matching number leaving Utah of a crisis of conscience spurred by the events of Mountain Meadows"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The author claims that "droves of Saints leaving California for Utah" and "a matching number leaving Utah of a crisis of conscience spurred by the events of Mountain Meadows" were "doomed to pass over the site of the slaughter."Author's sources: No source provided.
FAIR's Response
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
Ann Eliza Young claims that she "knew instinctively, as did many others, that something was being hidden from the mass of the people."Author's sources: Ann Eliza Young, Wife No. 19, or the Story of a Life in Bondage...(Hartford, Conn.: Custin, Gilman & Company, 1876), 229.
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: 173 - It is claimed that Brigham Young instructed John D. Lee to write a letter laying the blame for the massacre on the Indians
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
It is claimed that Brigham Young instructed John D. Lee to write a letter laying the blame for the massacre on the Indians.Author's sources: No source provided.
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: 173 - Brigham is claimed to have told Chief Walker's successor Arapeen to "help himself to what he wanted" of the "spoils of the slaughter"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
Brigham is claimed to have told Chief Walker's successor Arapeen to "help himself to what he wanted" of the "spoils of the slaughter."Author's sources:
- Dimick B. Huntington Journal, September 20, 1857.
- Compare treatment in Blood of the Prophets: p. 170a.
FAIR's Response
Indian chief Arapeen given booty?
Response to claim: 176, 180 = Colonel Thomas Kane is portrayed as arrogant, effeminate, a hypochondriac, and with delusions of fame
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
Colonel Thomas Kane is portrayed as arrogant, effeminate, a hypochondriac, and with delusions of fame.Author's sources: Compare treatment in Blood of the Prophets: p. 198.
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: 186 - Prior to the massacre, George A. Smith is claimed to "have carried orders to Cedar City leaders to incite their people to avenge the blood of the prophets"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
Prior to the massacre, George A. Smith is claimed to "have carried orders to Cedar City leaders to incite their people to avenge the blood of the prophets."Author's sources: No source provided. (Likely Bagley)
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: 186 - George A. Smith was "sent south not to learn the truth, but to devise an explanation for church leaders could provide to external enemies..."
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
George A. Smith was "sent south not to learn the truth, but to devise an explanation for church leaders could provide to external enemies..."Author's sources: Will Bagley, Blood of the Prophets: Brigham Young and the Massacre at Mountain Meadows (University of Oklahoma Press, 2002), 212.
FAIR's Response
Notes