Detailed response to CES Letter, Conclusion

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Response to "Letter to a CES Director: Conclusion"

[[../Other Concerns & Questions|Other Concerns & Questions]]

A FAIR Analysis of: [[../|Letter to a CES Director]], a work by author: Jeremy Runnells

CES Letter Response Main Page

Googling is not a synonym for seeking.

—Steven C. Harper, Joseph Smith's First Vision: A Guide to the Historical Accounts (2012), 11–12

Response to section "Conclusion"

Summary: The author concludes, "FAIR and these unofficial apologists have done more to destroy my testimony than any anti-Mormon source ever could. I found their version of Mormonism to be alien and foreign to the Chapel Mormonism that I grew up in attending Church, seminary, reading scriptures, General Conferences, EFY, mission, and BYU. Their answers are not only contradictory to the scriptures and teachings I learned through correlated Mormonism…they’re truly bizarre."

Jump to details:

• Response to claim: "FairMormon says...'Googling is not a synonym for seeking'...This is like saying, 'The library is not a synonym for seeking'" (Source: Debunking FAIR's Debunking, July 2014)
• Response to claim: "Among the first sources I looked to for answers were official Church sources such as Mormon.org and LDS.org. I couldn’t find them." (Source: Letter to a CES Director: Why I Lost My Testimony, April 2013)
• Response to claim: "FAIR and these unofficial apologists have done more to destroy my testimony than any anti-Mormon source ever could" (Source: Letter to a CES Director: Why I Lost My Testimony, April 2013)
• Response to claim: "Once again, Google delivers where the Church does not" (Source: Debunking FAIR's Debunking, July 2014)
• Response to claim: "If one assumes that FAIR's undisputed silence is acceptance of the facts..." (Source: Debunking FAIR's Debunking, July 2014)

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Response to claim: "FairMormon says...'Googling is not a synonym for seeking'...This is like saying, 'The library is not a synonym for seeking'"

The author(s) of "Debunking FAIR’s Debunking" (also known as "Debunking FairMormon" - from the author of the Letter to a CES Director) (20 July 2014 revision) make(s) the following claim:

FairMormon says... "Googling is not a synonym for seeking." Google is a search engine. It is simply a tool. It is not a source. It is not a destination. It is not a conclusion. Google is the taxi; not the location. It's the phone; not the conversation. This is like saying, "The library is not a synonym for seeking." The library is just a tool or gathering place of books, papers, works, and sources. FairMormon is now perpetuating the general perception and reputation that the Church and its apologists do not want its members to be balanced researchers or to look up information about the Church and its history on Google.

FAIR's Response

Fact checking results: The author has stated erroneous information or misinterpreted their sources

It is nonsense to state that FairMormon, an internet-based organization with thousands of online articles that show up in search engines and to which Search Engine Optimization (SEO) is of primary importance, is "perpetuating the general perception and reputation that the Church and its apologists do not want its members to be balanced researchers or to look up information about the Church and its history on Google."

Logical Fallacy: Argument from Ignorance—The author has difficulty understanding the topic, so he or she assumes that it simply must not have any validity.

The author completely fails to comprehend the meaning of Steven Harper's quote.

"Google" is a noun. It is the name of the tool used to search the online "library" of information. "Googling," on the other hand, is a conjugation of a commonly used 21st century verb "to google". It is a 21st century euphemism for the verb "to search."

"Library" is a noun. It is the name of a repository of information, not the tool used to search that library. There is no verb "to library." The author's phrase "The library is not a synonym for seeking" is a non-sequitur.

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Response to claim: "Among the first sources I looked to for answers were official Church sources such as Mormon.org and LDS.org. I couldn’t find them."

The author(s) of Letter to a CES Director (April 2013 revision) make(s) the following claim:

The author states, "When I first discovered that Joseph Smith used a rock in a hat to translate the Book of Mormon, that he was married to 11 other men’s wives, and that the Book of Abraham has absolutely nothing to do with the papyri or facsimiles…I went into a panic. I desperately needed answers and I needed them 3 hours ago. Among the first sources I looked to for answers were official Church sources such as Mormon.org and LDS.org. I couldn’t find them."Note: The Gospel Topics entry was added in 2014 after the Letter to a CES Director was written.

FAIR's Response

Fact checking results: The author has stated erroneous information or misinterpreted their sources

Some of the things that the author claims couldn't be found on LDS.org were actually there. Some of the items have since been added.

Additionally, there are many references to many apologetic issues such as those raised in this document that can be found on lds.org.

Longer response(s) to criticism:

• Improvement Era (January 1968): "Often the funerary texts contained passages from the 'Book of the Dead,' a book that was to assist in the safe passage of the dead person into the spirit world"
• Question: Are there no mentions of the seer stone and/or its use with a hat on LDS.org?
• Gospel Topics on LDS.org: "Joseph Smith was sealed to a number of women who were already married. Neither these women nor Joseph explained much about these sealings, though several women said they were for eternity alone"
• Mormonism and history/Censorship and revision/Hiding the facts

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Response to claim: "FAIR and these unofficial apologists have done more to destroy my testimony than any anti-Mormon source ever could"

The author(s) of Letter to a CES Director (April 2013 revision) make(s) the following claim:

The author claims, "FAIR and these unofficial apologists have done more to destroy my testimony than any anti-Mormon source ever could. I found their version of Mormonism to be alien and foreign to the Chapel Mormonism that I grew up in attending Church, seminary, reading scriptures, General Conferences, EFY, mission, and BYU. Their answers are not only contradictory to the scriptures and teachings I learned through correlated Mormonism…they’re truly bizarre."

See also the followup(s) to this claim from "Debunking FAIR’s Debunking" (20 July 2014 revision):

Response to claim: "Once again, Google delivers where the Church does not"

Response to claim: "If one assumes that FAIR's undisputed silence is acceptance of the facts..."

FAIR's Response

Fact checking results: This claim contains propaganda - The author, or the author's source, is providing information or ideas in a slanted way in order to instill a particular attitude or response in the reader

The author was examining anti-Mormon sources long before he looked at FairMormon. It is clear from his statements online (shown in the link below under "Longer response(s) to criticism") that he went to MormonThink and online discussion boards first. It is also evident that the author is only familiar with selected quotes from a variety of primary sources (including lds.org) that are included on critical websites.

Christensen (2014): "His Letter and his response to FairMormon works from an assumption that LDS leadership should display no weakness, have no common manner of language, never err in their statements"

Kevin Christensen, "Eye of the Beholder, Law of the Harvest: Observations on the Inevitable Consequences of the Different Investigative Approaches of Jeremy Runnells and Jeff Lindsay":

A large portion of the complaints that Runnells makes both in his Letter and his response to FairMormon works from an assumption that LDS leadership should display no weakness, have no common manner of language, never err in their statements, never need to seek wisdom since they should already have it all on the shelf, never sin and therefore never need to repent, and have all knowledge from the start so that no one, especially not Runnells, might ever need to change their thinking on any subject, no matter how trivial, especially not after having attended EFY, read some “approved” books, and served a mission.

Longer response(s) to criticism:

• Question: Did FairMormon do "more to destroy" the testimony of the author of the "Letter to a CES Director" than any "anti-Mormon" source?

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Response to claim: "Once again, Google delivers where the Church does not"

The author(s) of "Debunking FAIR’s Debunking" (also known as "Debunking FairMormon" - from the author of the Letter to a CES Director) (20 July 2014 revision) make(s) the following claim:

You cannot find this on lds.org or on any official Church website. In fact, you have to hunt it down on the internet. Once again, Google delivers where the Church does not. FAIR states: “The following is contained in the online archive of the Improvement Era." FAIR doesn’t tell the reader that this “online archive” is a non-LDS website archive.org that you have to do a Google search to locate. In other words, it’s archived and hidden off the official LDS websites and servers.

FAIR's Response

Fact checking results: This claim is false

No, Google did not "deliver where the Church does not." The back issues of the Improvement Era were scanned and placed on Archive.org by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Google can be used to locate these articles only because the Church scanned and uploaded them.

The back issues of the Improvement Era were scanned by the Church and placed on Archive.org

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1897

• November 1897, Vol. 1, No. 1
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1898

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• November 1903, Vol. 7, No. 1
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1904

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• November 1904, Vol. 8, No. 1
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• November 1905, Vol. 9, No. 1
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1906

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1907

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• November 1907, Vol. 11, No. 1
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1908

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• November 1908, Vol. 12, No. 1
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1909

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• October 1909, Vol. 12, No. 12
• November 1909, Vol. 13, No. 1
• December 1909, Vol. 13, No. 2

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1910

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1911

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• November 1912, Vol. 16, No. 1
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1913

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• November 1913, Vol. 17, No. 1
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1914

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• November 1916, Vol. 20, No. 1
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1917

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• October 1917, Vol. 20, No. 12
• November 1917, Vol. 21, No. 1
• December 1917, Vol. 21, No. 2

1918

• January 1918, Vol. 21, No. 3
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• September 1918, Vol. 21, No. 11
• October 1918, Vol. 21, No. 12
• November 1918, Vol. 22, No. 1
• December 1918, Vol. 22, No. 2

1919

• January 1919, Vol. 22, No. 3
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• September 1919, Vol. 22, No. 11
• October 1919, Vol. 22, No. 12
• November 1919, Vol. 23, No. 1
• December 1919, Vol. 23, No. 2

1920–1929, volumes 23–33

1920

• January 1920, Vol. 23, No. 3
• February 1920, Vol. 23, No. 4
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• November 1920, Vol. 24, No. 1
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1921

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• November 1921, Vol. 25, No. 1
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1922

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• November 1922, Vol. 26, No. 1
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1923

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• September 1923, Vol. 26, No. 11
• October 1923, Vol. 26, No. 12
• November 1923, Vol. 27, No. 1
• December 1923, Vol. 27, No. 2

1924

• January 1924, Vol. 27, No. 3
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• March 1924, Vol. 27, No. 5
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• October 1924, Vol. 27, No. 12
• November 1924, Vol. 28, No. 1
• December 1924, Vol. 28, No. 2

1925

• January 1925, Vol. 28, No. 3
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• March 1925, Vol. 28, No. 5
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• October 1925, Vol. 28, No. 12
• November 1925, Vol. 29, No. 1
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1926

• January 1926, Vol. 29, No. 3
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• October 1926, Vol. 29, No. 12
• November 1926, Vol. 30, No. 1
• December 1926, Vol. 30, No. 2

1927

• January 1927, Vol. 30, No. 3
• February 1927, Vol. 30, No. 4
• March 1927, Vol. 30, No. 5
• April 1927, Vol. 30, No. 6
• May 1927, Vol. 30, No. 7
• June 1927, Vol. 30, No. 8
• July 1927, Vol. 30, No. 9
• August 1927, Vol. 30, No. 10
• September 1927, Vol. 30, No. 11
• October 1927, Vol. 30, No. 12
• November 1927, Vol. 31, No. 1
• December 1927, Vol. 31, No. 2

1928

• January 1928, Vol. 31, No. 3
• February 1928, Vol. 31, No. 4
• March 1928, Vol. 31, No. 5
• April 1928, Vol. 31, No. 6
• May 1928, Vol. 31, No. 7
• June 1928, Vol. 31, No. 8
• July 1928, Vol. 31, No. 9
• August 1928, Vol. 31, No. 10
• September 1928, Vol. 31, No. 11
• October 1928, Vol. 31, No. 12
• November 1928, Vol. 32, No. 1
• December 1928, Vol. 32, No. 2

1929

• January 1929, Vol. 32, No. 3
• February 1929, Vol. 32, No. 4
• March 1929, Vol. 32, No. 5
• April 1929, Vol. 32, No. 6
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• August 1929, Vol. 32, No. 10
• September 1929, Vol. 32, No. 11
• October 1929, Vol. 32, No. 12
• November 1929, Vol. 33, No. 1
• December 1929, Vol. 33, No. 2

1930–1939, volumes 33–42

1930

• January 1930, Vol. 33, No. 3
• February 1930, Vol. 33, No. 4
• March 1930, Vol. 33, No. 5
• April 1930, Vol. 33, No. 6
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• September 1930, Vol. 33, No. 11
• October 1930, Vol. 33, No. 12
• November 1930, Vol. 34, No. 1
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1931

• January 1931, Vol. 34, No. 3
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• March 1931, Vol. 34, No. 5
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• July 1931, Vol. 34, No. 9
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• September 1931, Vol. 34, No. 11
• October 1931, Vol. 34, No. 12
• November 1931, Vol. 35, No. 1
• December 1931, Vol. 35, No. 2

1932

• January 1932, Vol. 35, No. 3
• February 1932, Vol. 35, No. 4
• March 1932, Vol. 35, No. 5
• April 1932, Vol. 35, No. 6
• May 1932, Vol. 35, No. 7
• June 1932, Vol. 35, No. 8
• July 1932, Vol. 35, No. 9
• August 1932, Vol. 35, No. 10
• September 1932, Vol. 35, No. 11
• October 1932, Vol. 35, No. 12
• November 1932, Vol. 36, No. 1
• December 1932, Vol. 36, No. 2

1933

• January 1933, Vol. 36, No. 3
• February 1933, Vol. 36, No. 4
• March 1933, Vol. 36, No. 5
• April 1933, Vol. 36, No. 6
• May 1933, Vol. 36, No. 7
• June 1933, Vol. 36, No. 8
• July 1933, Vol. 36, No. 9
• August 1933, Vol. 36, No. 10
• September 1933, Vol. 36, No. 11
• October 1933, Vol. 36, No. 12
• November 1933, Vol. 36, No. 13
• December 1933, Vol. 36, No. 14

1934

• January 1934, Vol. 37, No. 1
• February 1934, Vol. 37, No. 2
• March 1934, Vol. 37, No. 3
• April 1934, Vol. 37, No. 4
• May 1934, Vol. 37, No. 5
• June 1934, Vol. 37, No. 6
• July 1934, Vol. 37, No. 7
• August 1934, Vol. 37, No. 8
• September 1934, Vol. 37, No. 9
• October 1934, Vol. 37, No. 10
• November 1934, Vol. 37, No. 11
• December 1934, Vol. 37, No. 12

1935

• January 1935, Vol. 38, No. 1
• February 1935, Vol. 38, No. 2
• March 1935, Vol. 38, No. 3
• April 1935, Vol. 38, No. 4
• May 1935, Vol. 38, No. 5
• June 1935, Vol. 38, No. 6
• July 1935, Vol. 38, No. 7
• August 1935, Vol. 38, No. 8
• September 1935, Vol. 38, No. 9
• October 1935, Vol. 38, No. 10
• November 1935, Vol. 38, No. 11
• December 1935, Vol. 38, No. 12

1936

• January 1936, Vol. 39, No. 1
• February 1936, Vol. 39, No. 2
• March 1936, Vol. 39, No. 3
• April 1936, Vol. 39, No. 4
• May 1936, Vol. 39, No. 5
• June 1936, Vol. 39, No. 6
• July 1936, Vol. 39, No. 7
• August 1936, Vol. 39, No. 8
• September 1936, Vol. 39, No. 9
• October 1936, Vol. 39, No. 10
• November 1936, Vol. 39, No. 11
• December 1936, Vol. 39, No. 12

1937

• January 1937, Vol. 40, No. 1
• February 1937, Vol. 40, No. 2
• March 1937, Vol. 40, No. 3
• April 1937, Vol. 40, No. 4
• May 1937, Vol. 40, No. 5
• June 1937, Vol. 40, No. 6
• July 1937, Vol. 40, No. 7
• August 1937, Vol. 40, No. 8
• September 1937, Vol. 40, No. 9
• October 1937, Vol. 40, No. 10
• November 1937, Vol. 40, No. 11
• December 1937, Vol. 40, No. 12

1938

• January 1938, Vol. 41, No. 1
• February 1938, Vol. 41, No. 2
• March 1938, Vol. 41, No. 3
• April 1938, Vol. 41, No. 4
• May 1938, Vol. 41, No. 5
• June 1938, Vol. 41, No. 6
• July 1938, Vol. 41, No. 7
• August 1938, Vol. 41, No. 8
• September 1938, Vol. 41, No. 9
• October 1938, Vol. 41, No. 10
• November 1938, Vol. 41, No. 11
• December 1938, Vol. 41, No. 12

1939

• January 1939, Vol. 42, No. 1
• February 1939, Vol. 42, No. 2
• March 1939, Vol. 42, No. 3
• April 1939, Vol. 42, No. 4
• May 1939, Vol. 42, No. 5
• June 1939, Vol. 42, No. 6
• July 1939, Vol. 42, No. 7
• August 1939, Vol. 42, No. 8
• September 1939, Vol. 42, No. 9
• October 1939, Vol. 42, No. 10
• November 1939, Vol. 42, No. 11
• December 1939, Vol. 42, No. 12

1940–1949, volumes 43–52

1940

• January 1940, Vol. 43, No. 1
• February 1940, Vol. 43, No. 2
• March 1940, Vol. 43, No. 3
• April 1940, Vol. 43, No. 4
• May 1940, Vol. 43, No. 5
• June 1940, Vol. 43, No. 6
• July 1940, Vol. 43, No. 7
• August 1940, Vol. 43, No. 8
• September 1940, Vol. 43, No. 9
• October 1940, Vol. 43, No. 10
• November 1940, Vol. 43, No. 11
• December 1940, Vol. 43, No. 12

1941

• January 1941, Vol. 44, No. 1
• February 1941, Vol. 44, No. 2
• March 1941, Vol. 44, No. 3
• April 1941, Vol. 44, No. 4
• May 1941, Vol. 44, No. 5
• June 1941, Vol. 44, No. 6
• July 1941, Vol. 44, No. 7
• August 1941, Vol. 44, No. 8
• September 1941, Vol. 44, No. 9
• October 1941, Vol. 44, No. 10
• November 1941, Vol. 44, No. 11
• December 1941, Vol. 44, No. 12

1942

• January 1942, Vol. 45, No. 1
• February 1942, Vol. 45, No. 2
• March 1942, Vol. 45, No. 3
• April 1942, Vol. 45, No. 4
• May 1942, Vol. 45, No. 5
• June 1942, Vol. 45, No. 6
• July 1942, Vol. 45, No. 7
• August 1942, Vol. 45, No. 8
• September 1942, Vol. 45, No. 9
• October 1942, Vol. 45, No. 10
• November 1942, Vol. 45, No. 11
• December 1942, Vol. 45, No. 12

1943

• January 1943, Vol. 46, No. 1
• February 1943, Vol. 46, No. 2
• March 1943, Vol. 46, No. 3
• April 1943, Vol. 46, No. 4
• May 1943, Vol. 46, No. 5
• June 1943, Vol. 46, No. 6
• July 1943, Vol. 46, No. 7
• August 1943, Vol. 46, No. 8
• September 1943, Vol. 46, No. 9
• October 1943, Vol. 46, No. 10
• November 1943, Vol. 46, No. 11
• December 1943, Vol. 46, No. 12

1944

• January 1944, Vol. 47, No. 1
• February 1944, Vol. 47, No. 2
• March 1944, Vol. 47, No. 3
• April 1944, Vol. 47, No. 4
• May 1944, Vol. 47, No. 5
• June 1944, Vol. 47, No. 6
• July 1944, Vol. 47, No. 7
• August 1944, Vol. 47, No. 8
• September 1944, Vol. 47, No. 9
• October 1944, Vol. 47, No. 10
• November 1944, Vol. 47, No. 11
• December 1944, Vol. 47, No. 12

1945

• January 1945, Vol. 48, No. 1
• February 1945, Vol. 48, No. 2
• March 1945, Vol. 48, No. 3
• April 1945, Vol. 48, No. 4
• May 1945, Vol. 48, No. 5
• June 1945, Vol. 48, No. 6
• July 1945, Vol. 48, No. 7
• August 1945, Vol. 48, No. 8
• September 1945, Vol. 48, No. 9
• October 1945, Vol. 48, No. 10
• November 1945, Vol. 48, No. 11
• December 1945, Vol. 48, No. 12

1946

• January 1946, Vol. 49, No. 1
• February 1946, Vol. 49, No. 2
• March 1946, Vol. 49, No. 3
• April 1946, Vol. 49, No. 4
• May 1946, Vol. 49, No. 5
• June 1946, Vol. 49, No. 6
• July 1946, Vol. 49, No. 7
• August 1946, Vol. 49, No. 8
• September 1946, Vol. 49, No. 9
• October 1946, Vol. 49, No. 10
• November 1946, Vol. 49, No. 11
• December 1946, Vol. 49, No. 12

1947

• January 1947, Vol. 50, No. 1
• February 1947, Vol. 50, No. 2
• March 1947, Vol. 50, No. 3
• April 1947, Vol. 50, No. 4
• May 1947, Vol. 50, No. 5
• June 1947, Vol. 50, No. 6
• July 1947, Vol. 50, No. 7
• August 1947, Vol. 50, No. 8
• September 1947, Vol. 50, No. 9
• October 1947, Vol. 50, No. 10
• November 1947, Vol. 50, No. 11
• December 1947, Vol. 50, No. 12

1948

• January 1948, Vol. 51, No. 1
• February 1948, Vol. 51, No. 2
• March 1948, Vol. 51, No. 3
• April 1948, Vol. 51, No. 4
• May 1948, Vol. 51, No. 5
• June 1948, Vol. 51, No. 6
• July 1948, Vol. 51, No. 7
• August 1948, Vol. 51, No. 8
• September 1948, Vol. 51, No. 9
• October 1948, Vol. 51, No. 10
• November 1948, Vol. 51, No. 11
• December 1948, Vol. 51, No. 12

1949

• January 1949, Vol. 52, No. 1
• February 1949, Vol. 52, No. 2
• March 1949, Vol. 52, No. 3
• April 1949, Vol. 52, No. 4
• May 1949, Vol. 52, No. 5
• June 1949, Vol. 52, No. 6
• July 1949, Vol. 52, No. 7
• August 1949, Vol. 52, No. 8
• September 1949, Vol. 52, No. 9
• October 1949, Vol. 52, No. 10
• November 1949, Vol. 52, No. 11
• December 1949, Vol. 52, No. 12

1950–1959, volumes 53–62

1950

• January 1950, Vol. 53, No. 1
• February 1950, Vol. 53, No. 2
• March 1950, Vol. 53, No. 3
• April 1950, Vol. 53, No. 4
• May 1950, Vol. 53, No. 5
• June 1950, Vol. 53, No. 6
• July 1950, Vol. 53, No. 7
• August 1950, Vol. 53, No. 8
• September 1950, Vol. 53, No. 9
• October 1950, Vol. 53, No. 10
• November 1950, Vol. 53, No. 11
• December 1950, Vol. 53, No. 12

1951

• January 1951, Vol. 54, No. 1
• February 1951, Vol. 54, No. 2
• March 1951, Vol. 54, No. 3
• April 1951, Vol. 54, No. 4
• May 1951, Vol. 54, No. 5
• June 1951, Vol. 54, No. 6
• July 1951, Vol. 54, No. 7
• August 1951, Vol. 54, No. 8
• September 1951, Vol. 54, No. 9
• October 1951, Vol. 54, No. 10
• November 1951, Vol. 54, No. 11
• December 1951, Vol. 54, No. 12

1952

• January 1952, Vol. 55, No. 1
• February 1952, Vol. 55, No. 2
• March 1952, Vol. 55, No. 3
• April 1952, Vol. 55, No. 4
• May 1952, Vol. 55, No. 5
• June 1952, Vol. 55, No. 6
• July 1952, Vol. 55, No. 7
• August 1952, Vol. 55, No. 8
• September 1952, Vol. 55, No. 9
• October 1952, Vol. 55, No. 10
• November 1952, Vol. 55, No. 11
• December 1952, Vol. 55, No. 12

1953

• January 1953, Vol. 56, No. 1
• February 1953, Vol. 56, No. 2
• March 1953, Vol. 56, No. 3
• April 1953, Vol. 56, No. 4
• May 1953, Vol. 56, No. 5
• June 1953, Vol. 56, No. 6
• July 1953, Vol. 56, No. 7
• August 1953, Vol. 56, No. 8
• September 1953, Vol. 56, No. 9
• October 1953, Vol. 56, No. 10
• November 1953, Vol. 56, No. 11
• December 1953, Vol. 56, No. 12

1954

• January 1954, Vol. 57, No. 1
• February 1954, Vol. 57, No. 2
• March 1954, Vol. 57, No. 3
• April 1954, Vol. 57, No. 4
• May 1954, Vol. 57, No. 5
• June 1954, Vol. 57, No. 6
• July 1954, Vol. 57, No. 7
• August 1954, Vol. 57, No. 8
• September 1954, Vol. 57, No. 9
• October 1954, Vol. 57, No. 10
• November 1954, Vol. 57, No. 11
• December 1954, Vol. 57, No. 12

1955

• January 1955, Vol. 58, No. 1
• February 1955, Vol. 58, No. 2
• March 1955, Vol. 58, No. 3
• April 1955, Vol. 58, No. 4
• May 1955, Vol. 58, No. 5
• June 1955, Vol. 58, No. 6
• July 1955, Vol. 58, No. 7
• August 1955, Vol. 58, No. 8
• September 1955, Vol. 58, No. 9
• October 1955, Vol. 58, No. 10
• November 1955, Vol. 58, No. 11
• December 1955, Vol. 58, No. 12

1956

• January 1956, Vol. 59, No. 1
• February 1956, Vol. 59, No. 2
• March 1956, Vol. 59, No. 3
• April 1956, Vol. 59, No. 4
• May 1956, Vol. 59, No. 5
• June 1956, Vol. 59, No. 6
• July 1956, Vol. 59, No. 7
• August 1956, Vol. 59, No. 8
• September 1956, Vol. 59, No. 9
• October 1956, Vol. 59, No. 10
• November 1956, Vol. 59, No. 11
• December 1956, Vol. 59, No. 12

1957

• January 1957, Vol. 60, No. 1
• February 1957, Vol. 60, No. 2
• March 1957, Vol. 60, No. 3
• April 1957, Vol. 60, No. 4
• May 1957, Vol. 60, No. 5
• June 1957, Vol. 60, No. 6
• July 1957, Vol. 60, No. 7
• August 1957, Vol. 60, No. 8
• September 1957, Vol. 60, No. 9
• October 1957, Vol. 60, No. 10
• November 1957, Vol. 60, No. 11
• December 1957, Vol. 60, No. 12

1958

• January 1958, Vol. 61, No. 1
• February 1958, Vol. 61, No. 2
• March 1958, Vol. 61, No. 3
• April 1958, Vol. 61, No. 4
• May 1958, Vol. 61, No. 5
• June 1958, Vol. 61, No. 6
• July 1958, Vol. 61, No. 7
• August 1958, Vol. 61, No. 8
• September 1958, Vol. 61, No. 9
• October 1958, Vol. 61, No. 10
• November 1958, Vol. 61, No. 11
• December 1958, Vol. 61, No. 12

1959

• January 1959, Vol. 62, No. 1
• February 1959, Vol. 62, No. 2
• March 1959, Vol. 62, No. 3
• April 1959, Vol. 62, No. 4
• May 1959, Vol. 62, No. 5
• June 1959, Vol. 62, No. 6
• July 1959, Vol. 62, No. 7
• August 1959, Vol. 62, No. 8
• September 1959, Vol. 62, No. 9
• October 1959, Vol. 62, No. 10
• November 1959, Vol. 62, No. 11
• December 1959, Vol. 62, No. 12

1960–1970, volumes 63–73

1960

• January 1960, Vol. 63, No. 1
• February 1960, Vol. 63, No. 2
• March 1960, Vol. 63, No. 3
• April 1960, Vol. 63, No. 4
• May 1960, Vol. 63, No. 5
• June 1960, Vol. 63, No. 6
• July 1960, Vol. 63, No. 7
• August 1960, Vol. 63, No. 8
• September 1960, Vol. 63, No. 9
• October 1960, Vol. 63, No. 10
• November 1960, Vol. 63, No. 11
• December 1960, Vol. 63, No. 12

1961

• January 1961, Vol. 64, No. 1
• February 1961, Vol. 64, No. 2
• March 1961, Vol. 64, No. 3
• April 1961, Vol. 64, No. 4
• May 1961, Vol. 64, No. 5
• June 1961, Vol. 64, No. 6
• July 1961, Vol. 64, No. 7
• August 1961, Vol. 64, No. 8
• September 1961, Vol. 64, No. 9
• October 1961, Vol. 64, No. 10
• November 1961, Vol. 64, No. 11
• December 1961, Vol. 64, No. 12

1962

• January 1962, Vol. 65, No. 1
• February 1962, Vol. 65, No. 2
• March 1962, Vol. 65, No. 3
• April 1962, Vol. 65, No. 4
• May 1962, Vol. 65, No. 5
• June 1962, Vol. 65, No. 6
• July 1962, Vol. 65, No. 7
• August 1962, Vol. 65, No. 8
• September 1962, Vol. 65, No. 9
• October 1962, Vol. 65, No. 10
• November 1962, Vol. 65, No. 11
• December 1962, Vol. 65, No. 12

1963

• January 1963, Vol. 66, No. 1
• February 1963, Vol. 66, No. 2
• March 1963, Vol. 66, No. 3
• April 1963, Vol. 66, No. 4
• May 1963, Vol. 66, No. 5
• June 1963, Vol. 66, No. 6
• July 1963, Vol. 66, No. 7
• August 1963, Vol. 66, No. 8
• September 1963, Vol. 66, No. 9
• October 1963, Vol. 66, No. 10
• November 1963, Vol. 66, No. 11
• December 1963, Vol. 66, No. 12

1964

• January 1964, Vol. 67, No. 1
• February 1964, Vol. 67, No. 2
• March 1964, Vol. 67, No. 3
• April 1964, Vol. 67, No. 4
• May 1964, Vol. 67, No. 5
• June 1964, Vol. 67, No. 6
• July 1964, Vol. 67, No. 7
• August 1964, Vol. 67, No. 8
• September 1964, Vol. 67, No. 9
• October 1964, Vol. 67, No. 10
• November 1964, Vol. 67, No. 11
• December 1964, Vol. 67, No. 12

1965

• January 1965, Vol. 68, No. 1
• February 1965, Vol. 68, No. 2
• March 1965, Vol. 68, No. 3
• April 1965, Vol. 68, No. 4
• May 1965, Vol. 68, No. 5
• June 1965, Vol. 68, No. 6
• July 1965, Vol. 68, No. 7
• August 1965, Vol. 68, No. 8
• September 1965, Vol. 68, No. 9
• October 1965, Vol. 68, No. 10
• November 1965, Vol. 68, No. 11
• December 1965, Vol. 68, No. 12

1966

• January 1966, Vol. 69, No. 1
• February 1966, Vol. 69, No. 2
• March 1966, Vol. 69, No. 3
• April 1966, Vol. 69, No. 4
• May 1966, Vol. 69, No. 5
• June 1966, Vol. 69, No. 6
• July 1966, Vol. 69, No. 7
• August 1966, Vol. 69, No. 8
• September 1966, Vol. 69, No. 9
• October 1966, Vol. 69, No. 10
• November 1966, Vol. 69, No. 11
• December 1966, Vol. 69, No. 12

1967

• January 1967, Vol. 70, No. 1
• February 1967, Vol. 70, No. 2
• March 1967, Vol. 70, No. 3
• April 1967, Vol. 70, No. 4
• May 1967, Vol. 70, No. 5
• June 1967, Vol. 70, No. 6
• July 1967, Vol. 70, No. 7
• August 1967, Vol. 70, No. 8
• September 1967, Vol. 70, No. 9
• October 1967, Vol. 70, No. 10
• November 1967, Vol. 70, No. 11
• December 1967, Vol. 70, No. 12

1968

• January 1968, Vol. 71, No. 1
• February 1968, Vol. 71, No. 2
• March 1968, Vol. 71, No. 3
• April 1968, Vol. 71, No. 4
• May 1968, Vol. 71, No. 5
• June 1968, Vol. 71, No. 6
• July 1968, Vol. 71, No. 7
• August 1968, Vol. 71, No. 8
• September 1968, Vol. 71, No. 9
• October 1968, Vol. 71, No. 10
• November 1968, Vol. 71, No. 11
• December 1968, Vol. 71, No. 12

1969

• January 1969, Vol. 72, No. 1
• February 1969, Vol. 72, No. 2
• March 1969, Vol. 72, No. 3
• April 1969, Vol. 72, No. 4
• May 1969, Vol. 72, No. 5
• June 1969, Vol. 72, No. 6
• July 1969, Vol. 72, No. 7
• August 1969, Vol. 72, No. 8
• September 1969, Vol. 72, No. 9
• October 1969, Vol. 72, No. 10
• November 1969, Vol. 72, No. 11
• December 1969, Vol. 72, No. 12

1970

• January 1970, Vol. 73, No. 1
• February 1970, Vol. 73, No. 2
• March 1970, Vol. 73, No. 3
• April 1970, Vol. 73, No. 4
• May 1970, Vol. 73, No. 5
• June 1970, Vol. 73, No. 6
• July 1970, Vol. 73, No. 7
• August 1970, Vol. 73, No. 8
• September 1970, Vol. 73, No. 9
• October 1970, Vol. 73, No. 10
• November 1970, Vol. 73, No. 11
• December 1970, Vol. 73, No. 12

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Response to claim: "If one assumes that FAIR's undisputed silence is acceptance of the facts..."

The author(s) of "Debunking FAIR’s Debunking" (also known as "Debunking FairMormon" - from the author of the Letter to a CES Director) (20 July 2014 revision) make(s) the following claim:

If one assumes that FAIR's undisputed silence is acceptance of the facts, FAIR agrees with 79% of Letter to a CES Director. You’d have a difficult time seeing this by looking at FAIR’s answers. The trick is in the silence; facts in the CES letter that FAIR leave alone and don’t dispute.

FAIR's Response

Fact checking results: This claim is false

This claim is untrue. FairMormon consists of unpaid volunteers, who choose to work on its materials in their spare time, and only when they are not otherwise busy with their families, their day jobs, and church responsibilities. All of those things take priority over providing additional responses to claims made in the CES Letter. As a result, some claims have not yet been addressed. However, additional responses have been slowly added over time by FairMormon volunteers, and they will continue to be added in the future. Often during apologetics, apologists are simply concerned about the interpretation of the facts. Naturally, the reality goes undisuputed but what the reality means can be reinterpreted through careful thought. At other times, there are facts that are disputed and not their interpretations. The author seems to think that we acquiesce to both for the majority of his claims. We don’t. We disagree on almost every point in one or both.

Longer response(s) to criticism:

• Question: Do Latter-day Saint apologists receive compensation for their efforts?

Notes

[[../Other Concerns & Questions|Other Concerns & Questions]]

A FAIR Analysis of: [[../|Letter to a CES Director]] A work by author: Jeremy Runnells

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