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* Critics who use the Mountain Meadows Massacre against the Church argue that Brigham Young hid knowledge of the massacre from U.S. army representative Captain Stewart Van Vliet.  They use this as evidence of Brigham's duplicity and complicity in the attacks.
 
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These claims are impossible.  The timeframe and distances involved simply don't work:
 
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:Army Quartermaster Captain Stewart Van Vliet came to Salt Lake City on 8 September and left after midnight on 14 September 1857 to arrange for the advancing army's provisions.  Denton tells us that Brigham Young carefully shielded Van Vliet to hear nothing of the massacre, because if Van Vliet came to know about it, "an invasion of Utah Territory would be expedited" (p. 165). There is no historical support for this claim. The claim is also impossible to support. Because the massacre was not over until 11 September 1857,23 there is no possibility that Brigham Young could have known of the massacre before his last meeting with Van Vliet on 13 September 1857."{{ref|van.vliet.deceit}}  
 
:Army Quartermaster Captain Stewart Van Vliet came to Salt Lake City on 8 September and left after midnight on 14 September 1857 to arrange for the advancing army's provisions.  Denton tells us that Brigham Young carefully shielded Van Vliet to hear nothing of the massacre, because if Van Vliet came to know about it, "an invasion of Utah Territory would be expedited" (p. 165). There is no historical support for this claim. The claim is also impossible to support. Because the massacre was not over until 11 September 1857,23 there is no possibility that Brigham Young could have known of the massacre before his last meeting with Van Vliet on 13 September 1857."{{ref|van.vliet.deceit}}  
  
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Revision as of 04:58, 4 May 2010

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  • Critics who use the Mountain Meadows Massacre against the Church argue that Brigham Young hid knowledge of the massacre from U.S. army representative Captain Stewart Van Vliet. They use this as evidence of Brigham's duplicity and complicity in the attacks.

Source(s) of the criticism

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Detailed Analysis

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These claims are impossible. The timeframe and distances involved simply don't work:

Army Quartermaster Captain Stewart Van Vliet came to Salt Lake City on 8 September and left after midnight on 14 September 1857 to arrange for the advancing army's provisions. Denton tells us that Brigham Young carefully shielded Van Vliet to hear nothing of the massacre, because if Van Vliet came to know about it, "an invasion of Utah Territory would be expedited" (p. 165). There is no historical support for this claim. The claim is also impossible to support. Because the massacre was not over until 11 September 1857,23 there is no possibility that Brigham Young could have known of the massacre before his last meeting with Van Vliet on 13 September 1857."[1]

== Notes ==

  1. [note]  Robert D. Crockett, "The Denton Debacle (Review of: American Massacre: The Tragedy at Mountain Meadows, September 1857)," FARMS Review 16/1 (2004): 135–148. off-site

Further reading

FairMormon Answers articles

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FairMormon web site

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Videos

Shining New Light on the Mountain Meadows Massacre, Gene A. Sessions , 2003 FAIR Conference

External links

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Printed material

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