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* Much of this is false.  Jesus was not created in LDS theology.  Jesus is also the Creator in LDS theology: "he shall be called Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of heaven and earth, the Creator of all things from the beginning; and his mother shall be called Mary" ({{s||Mosiah|3|8}}).  Latter-day Saints, like the early Christians, reject the creedal doctrine of ''creatio ex nihilo'' (creation out of nothing).
 
* Much of this is false.  Jesus was not created in LDS theology.  Jesus is also the Creator in LDS theology: "he shall be called Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of heaven and earth, the Creator of all things from the beginning; and his mother shall be called Mary" ({{s||Mosiah|3|8}}).  Latter-day Saints, like the early Christians, reject the creedal doctrine of ''creatio ex nihilo'' (creation out of nothing).
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Revision as of 12:00, 9 March 2010


A FAIR Analysis of:
Watchman Fellowship

Index of Claims in "Hinckley Claims LDS Worship Different Christ"

Claim
The authors use Gordon B. Hinckley's statement to "prove" that Latter-day Saints believe in "another Christ." President Hinckley stated that Latter-day Saints

do not believe in the traditional Christ. No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the Dispensation of the Fulness of Times.

Author's source(s)

  • LDS Church News, June 20, 1998. off-site

Response


Claim
  • The "Traditional Christian Christ" is "Eternally God."
  • The "Mormon Christ" was "not always God" and "became a God."

Response

Claim
  • The "Traditional Christian Christ" is "Only God."
  • The "Mormon Christ" is "One of Many Gods."

Response

Claim
  • The "Traditional Christian Christ" is "Creator of All Things."
  • The "Mormon Christ" "Was Created; Spirit Brother of Lucifer."

Response

Claim
  • The "Traditional Christian Christ" is "Begotten Miraculously, of the Holy Spirit"
  • The "Mormon Christ" is "Begotten Sexually, by God the Father"

Response
  • There is no LDS doctrine on the method of Jesus' conception, save to say He is literally God's son.
  • In LDS doctrine, "the virgin [Mary]...is the mother of the Son of God, after the manner of the flesh....she was carried away in the Spirit; and after she had been carried away in the Spirit for the space of a time" she bore Jesus, the Son of God (see 1 Nephi 11꞉18-19).
  • For a detailed response, see: Jesus_Christ/Conception and Conception of Jesus Christ
  • For a detailed response, see: The "Mormon" vs. the "Christian" Jesus

Claim
  • The "Traditional Christian Christ" is "Not Married."
  • The "Mormon Christ" is "Married with Children."

Response

Claim
  • The "Traditional Christian Christ" is "Atoned for Sin by Death on the Cross"
  • The "Mormon Christ" is "Atoned by Sweating Blood in Gethsemane."

Response

Claim
  • The "Traditional Christian Christ" is "Justifies the Ungodly."
  • The "Mormon Christ" "Requires Godliness before Justification."

Response

Claim
  • The "Traditional Christian Christ" is "Offers Full Salvation Unconditionally."
  • The "Mormon Christ" "Offers Full Salvation Only on Conditions."

Response