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| + | Latter-day Saints are claimed to reject the "Evangelical belief" that "Christ was born of the virgin Mary, who, when the Holy Ghost came upon her, miraculously conceived the promised messiah." | ||
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*This claim is false. | *This claim is false. | ||
*{{s|1|Nephi|11|18-21}} | *{{s|1|Nephi|11|18-21}} | ||
| − | *[[Jesus Christ | + | *[[Jesus Christ/Conception]] |
*{{CrossRef:Abanes:One Nation|chapter=13|pages=287, 575n38(PB)}} | *{{CrossRef:Abanes:One Nation|chapter=13|pages=287, 575n38(PB)}} | ||
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*{{s||Isaiah|7|14}} | *{{s||Isaiah|7|14}} | ||
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| + | "Until recently, the common belief clearly implied throughout the history of Mormonism...was that Jesus' conception occurred via sexual intercourse between Heavenly Father (Elohim) and Mary." | ||
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*[[Becoming Gods#Misunderstanding regarding Jesus Christ's conception|Misunderstanding regarding Jesus Christ's conception]] {{nw}} | *[[Becoming Gods#Misunderstanding regarding Jesus Christ's conception|Misunderstanding regarding Jesus Christ's conception]] {{nw}} | ||
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*{{s||Luke|1|35}} | *{{s||Luke|1|35}} | ||
*{{s|1|Nephi|11|14}} | *{{s|1|Nephi|11|14}} | ||
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*{{s|1|Nephi|11|26-28}} | *{{s|1|Nephi|11|26-28}} | ||
*{{s|1|Nephi|11|32-33}} | *{{s|1|Nephi|11|32-33}} | ||
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| + | Early LDS leaders redefined "virgin" to mean a woman who has never known a ''mortal'' man, since Heavenly Father is immortal. | ||
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*This is the author's conclusion. The author wants to talk about a "sexual union" again, but the statement he uses in his citation in the endnotes says nothing about redefining "virgin" to mean a woman who has never known a mortal man. It is certainly true that Latter-day Saints believe Jesus Christ to be the literal son of our Heavenly Father, but the author takes liberties in drawing his conclusions about the event. | *This is the author's conclusion. The author wants to talk about a "sexual union" again, but the statement he uses in his citation in the endnotes says nothing about redefining "virgin" to mean a woman who has never known a mortal man. It is certainly true that Latter-day Saints believe Jesus Christ to be the literal son of our Heavenly Father, but the author takes liberties in drawing his conclusions about the event. | ||
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*Joseph F. Smith, Charles Penrose, "Message of the First Presidency," vol. 5, p. 34. "...his unique status in the flesh as the offspring of a mortal mother and of an immortal, or resurrected and glorified, Father" | *Joseph F. Smith, Charles Penrose, "Message of the First Presidency," vol. 5, p. 34. "...his unique status in the flesh as the offspring of a mortal mother and of an immortal, or resurrected and glorified, Father" | ||
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| − | *{{FalseStatement}}: [[Atonement | + | Latter-day Saints reject the idea that the death of Jesus on the cross was a significant part of the atonement. |
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| + | *{{FalseStatement}}: [[Jesus Christ/Atonement/The garden and the cross]] | ||
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*Cky J. Carrigan, "Did Jesus Christ Die on the Cross to Pay for Our Sins?: A Survey of Mormon Teachings on the Atonement of Christ," Annual Meeting of the Evangelical Ministries to New Religions, Biola University, Jan. 25, 2003. | *Cky J. Carrigan, "Did Jesus Christ Die on the Cross to Pay for Our Sins?: A Survey of Mormon Teachings on the Atonement of Christ," Annual Meeting of the Evangelical Ministries to New Religions, Biola University, Jan. 25, 2003. | ||
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| − | * [[ | + | The third and highest kingdom of glory has three levels, and only those who reach the highest level become gods. |
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| + | * [[Plan of salvation/Three degrees of glory]] | ||
*[[Deification of man|Human deification/''theosis'']] | *[[Deification of man|Human deification/''theosis'']] | ||
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*Bruce R. McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'', "Those who obtain exaltation will gain all power and thus themselves be omnipotent...Godhood is to have the character, possess the attributes, and enjoy the perfections which the Father has. It is to do what he does, have the powers resident in him, and live as he lives." | *Bruce R. McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'', "Those who obtain exaltation will gain all power and thus themselves be omnipotent...Godhood is to have the character, possess the attributes, and enjoy the perfections which the Father has. It is to do what he does, have the powers resident in him, and live as he lives." | ||
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| + | The three heaven doctrine has no basis in the Bible, but is only based upon a vision of Joseph Smith. | ||
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*{{FalseStatement}} | *{{FalseStatement}} | ||
**{{b|2|Corinthians|12|2}} | **{{b|2|Corinthians|12|2}} | ||
**{{b|1|Corinthians|15|40-41}} | **{{b|1|Corinthians|15|40-41}} | ||
| − | *[[Three degrees of glory | + | *[[Plan of salvation/Three degrees of glory/Not biblical]] |
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Revision as of 20:49, 23 February 2010
| Chapter 6 | A FAIR Analysis of: Becoming Gods: A Closer Look at 21st-Century Mormonism A work by author: Richard Abanes
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Chapter 8 |
Claims made in "Chapter 7: After All We Can Do"
183
Claim
Latter-day Saints are claimed to reject the "Evangelical belief" that "Christ was born of the virgin Mary, who, when the Holy Ghost came upon her, miraculously conceived the promised messiah."
Author's source(s)
Response
- This claim is false.
- 1 Nephi 11꞉18-21
- Jesus Christ/Conception
- This claim is also made in One Nation Under Gods: p. 287, 575n38(PB)
184
Claim
"Until recently, the common belief clearly implied throughout the history of Mormonism...was that Jesus' conception occurred via sexual intercourse between Heavenly Father (Elohim) and Mary."
Author's source(s)
- Luke 1꞉35
- 1 Nephi 11꞉14
- 1 Nephi 11꞉16-18
- 1 Nephi 11꞉20
- 1 Nephi 11꞉24
- 1 Nephi 11꞉26-28
- 1 Nephi 11꞉32-33
Response
185, 405n41
Claim
Early LDS leaders redefined "virgin" to mean a woman who has never known a mortal man, since Heavenly Father is immortal.
Author's source(s)
- Joseph F. Smith, Charles Penrose, "Message of the First Presidency," vol. 5, p. 34. "...his unique status in the flesh as the offspring of a mortal mother and of an immortal, or resurrected and glorified, Father"
Response
- This is the author's conclusion. The author wants to talk about a "sexual union" again, but the statement he uses in his citation in the endnotes says nothing about redefining "virgin" to mean a woman who has never known a mortal man. It is certainly true that Latter-day Saints believe Jesus Christ to be the literal son of our Heavenly Father, but the author takes liberties in drawing his conclusions about the event.
- Jesus Christ/Conception
187, 406n54-55
Claim
Latter-day Saints reject the idea that the death of Jesus on the cross was a significant part of the atonement.
Author's source(s)
- Cky J. Carrigan, "Did Jesus Christ Die on the Cross to Pay for Our Sins?: A Survey of Mormon Teachings on the Atonement of Christ," Annual Meeting of the Evangelical Ministries to New Religions, Biola University, Jan. 25, 2003.
Response
- The author's claim is false: Jesus Christ/Atonement/The garden and the cross
201
Claim
The third and highest kingdom of glory has three levels, and only those who reach the highest level become gods.
Author's source(s)
- Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, "Those who obtain exaltation will gain all power and thus themselves be omnipotent...Godhood is to have the character, possess the attributes, and enjoy the perfections which the Father has. It is to do what he does, have the powers resident in him, and live as he lives."
Response
201
Claim
The three heaven doctrine has no basis in the Bible, but is only based upon a vision of Joseph Smith.
Author's source(s)
Response
- The author's claim is false
- Plan of salvation/Three degrees of glory/Not biblical