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*This claim is repeated in ''One Nation Under Gods'': [[One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Apostles killed Judas]] | *This claim is repeated in ''One Nation Under Gods'': [[One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Apostles killed Judas]] | ||
+ | *Heber said: | ||
+ | <blockquote> | ||
+ | Jesus said to his disciples, "Ye are the salt of the earth; and if the salt loses its saving principle, it is then good for nothing but to be cast out." Instead of reading it just as it is, almost all of you read it just as it is not. Jesus meant to say," If you have lost the saving principles, you Twelve Apostles, and you that believe in my servants the Twelve, you shall be like unto the salt that has lost its saving principles: it is henceforth good for nothing but to be cast out and trodden under foot of men." Judas lost that saving principle, and they took him and killed him. It is said page 126 in the Bible that his bowels gushed out; but they actually kicked him until his bowels came out. | ||
+ | </blockquote> | ||
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*The Reed Peck Manuscript, p.13 | *The Reed Peck Manuscript, p.13 | ||
− | * | + | *{{JDwiki|author=Heber C. Kimball|url=http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Journal_of_Discourses/Volume_6/Advancement_in_Gospel_Principles,_etc.|vol=6|pages=125-26}} |
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− | |490-491||Brigham Young advocated blood atonement.||[[Blood atonement]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====490-491==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Brigham Young advocated blood atonement. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[Blood atonement]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Journal of Discourses 4:53-54 | *Journal of Discourses 4:53-54 | ||
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− | |491-492||Jedediah Grant advocated blood atonement.||[[Blood atonement]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====491-492==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Jedediah Grant advocated blood atonement. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[Blood atonement]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Journal of Discourses 4:49-50 | *Journal of Discourses 4:49-50 | ||
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− | |493||Murder was worthy of death.||[[Blood atonement]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====493==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Murder was worthy of death. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[Blood atonement]]|| | ||
*History of the Church 5:296 | *History of the Church 5:296 | ||
*Doctrines of Salvation 1:136 | *Doctrines of Salvation 1:136 | ||
*Mormon Doctrine, 1958, p.314" | *Mormon Doctrine, 1958, p.314" | ||
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− | |493||Adultery and immorality were worthy of death.||[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====493==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Adultery and immorality were worthy of death. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Journal of Discourses 7:20 | *Journal of Discourses 7:20 | ||
*Journal of Discourses 6:38 | *Journal of Discourses 6:38 | ||
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*Journal of Discourses 1:97 | *Journal of Discourses 1:97 | ||
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− | |493||Brigham Young said that he would put a javelin through the heart of an adulterous woman.||[[Blood atonement]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====493==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Brigham Young said that he would put a javelin through the heart of an adulterous woman. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[Blood atonement]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Journal of Discourses 3:247 | *Journal of Discourses 3:247 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | |496||Stealing was worthy of death.||[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====496==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Stealing was worthy of death. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Times and Seasons, vol. 4, pp.183-84 | *Times and Seasons, vol. 4, pp.183-84 | ||
*History of the Church 7:597 | *History of the Church 7:597 | ||
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*Journal of Discourses 1:73" | *Journal of Discourses 1:73" | ||
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− | |496||Using the name of the Lord in vain was worthy of death.||[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====496==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Using the name of the Lord in vain was worthy of death. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Journal of Hosea Stout, vol. 2, p.71; p.56 of the typed copy at Utah State Historical Society | *Journal of Hosea Stout, vol. 2, p.71; p.56 of the typed copy at Utah State Historical Society | ||
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− | |496||Not receiving the Gospel was worthy of death.||[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====496==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Not receiving the Gospel was worthy of death. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Journal of Discourses 3:226 | *Journal of Discourses 3:226 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | |496||Marrying | + | | |
+ | ====496==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Marrying an African was worthy of death. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Journal of Discourses 10:110 | *Journal of Discourses 10:110 | ||
*Wilford Woodruff's Journal, January 16,1852 | *Wilford Woodruff's Journal, January 16,1852 | ||
*Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Spring 1973, p.26 | *Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Spring 1973, p.26 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | |498||Breaking covenants was worthy of death.||[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====498==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Breaking covenants was worthy of death. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Journal of Discourses 4:49-51 | *Journal of Discourses 4:49-51 | ||
*Deseret News, July 27, 1854 | *Deseret News, July 27, 1854 | ||
*Journal of Discourses 4:375 | *Journal of Discourses 4:375 | ||
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− | |498-499|| | + | | |
+ | ====498-499==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Apostasy was worthy of death. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[Blood atonement]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Journal of Discourses 1:83 | *Journal of Discourses 1:83 | ||
*Journal of Discourses 4:219-20 | *Journal of Discourses 4:219-20 | ||
*Journal of Discourses 6:34-35 | *Journal of Discourses 6:34-35 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | |500||Lying was worthy of death.||[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====500==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Lying was worthy of death. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*"Manuscript History of Brigham Young," December 20, 1846 | *"Manuscript History of Brigham Young," December 20, 1846 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | |500||Counterfeiting was worthy of death.||[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====500==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Counterfeiting was worthy of death. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*"Manuscript History of Brigham Young," February 24,1847 | *"Manuscript History of Brigham Young," February 24,1847 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | |500||Condemning Joseph Smith was worthy of death.||[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====500==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Condemning Joseph Smith was worthy of death. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Quest for Empire, p.127 | *Quest for Empire, p.127 | ||
*Daily journal of Abraham H. Cannon,"" December 6, 1889, pp.205-6 | *Daily journal of Abraham H. Cannon,"" December 6, 1889, pp.205-6 | ||
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− | |501-503||Blood atonement was "put into practice" in Utah.||[[Blood atonement]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====501-503==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Blood atonement was "put into practice" in Utah. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[Blood atonement]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Confessions of John D. Lee, 1880, pp.282-83 | *Confessions of John D. Lee, 1880, pp.282-83 | ||
*Utah Historical Quarterly, January 1958, p.62, note 39 | *Utah Historical Quarterly, January 1958, p.62, note 39 | ||
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− | |501||Modern church leaders have confirmed the principle but denied the practice of blood atonement.||[[Blood atonement]]|| | + | | |
+ | ====501==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Modern church leaders have confirmed the principle but denied the practice of blood atonement. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *[[Blood atonement]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*Mormon Doctrine, 1958, p.87 | *Mormon Doctrine, 1958, p.87 | ||
*Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp.133-36 | *Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp.133-36 | ||
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Chapter 19 | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: Jerald and Sandra Tanner
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Chapter 21 |
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490-491 |
Brigham Young advocated blood atonement. |
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491-492 |
Jedediah Grant advocated blood atonement. |
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493 |
Murder was worthy of death. |
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493 |
Adultery and immorality were worthy of death. |
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493 |
Brigham Young said that he would put a javelin through the heart of an adulterous woman. |
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496 |
Stealing was worthy of death. |
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496 |
Using the name of the Lord in vain was worthy of death. |
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496 |
Not receiving the Gospel was worthy of death. |
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496 |
Marrying an African was worthy of death. |
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498 |
Breaking covenants was worthy of death. |
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498-499 |
Apostasy was worthy of death. |
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500 |
Lying was worthy of death. |
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500 |
Counterfeiting was worthy of death. |
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500 |
Condemning Joseph Smith was worthy of death. |
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501-503 |
Blood atonement was "put into practice" in Utah. |
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501 |
Modern church leaders have confirmed the principle but denied the practice of blood atonement. |
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