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| − | ||The Book of Mormon teaches that God is a spirit.||[[God is a Spirit]]{{nw}} | + | ||The Book of Mormon teaches that God is a spirit.|| |
| + | * [[God is a Spirit]]{{nw}} | ||
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* "God" may be properly spoken of as one in some senses, and as plural in other senses. | * "God" may be properly spoken of as one in some senses, and as plural in other senses. | ||
* [[Polytheism|Are Mormons polytheists?]] | * [[Polytheism|Are Mormons polytheists?]] | ||
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| − | *{{Prejudicial}}: The Saints do not believe that God is "just" anything. The word "just" shows the authors' biases, and their predetermined | + | *{{Prejudicial}}: The Saints do not believe that God is "just" anything. The word "just" shows the authors' biases, and their predetermined conclusion that the creedal view of God is automatically "better." |
| − | + | *[[Deification of man]] | |
| − | conclusion that the creedal view of God is automatically "better." | + | || |
| − | *[[Deification of man]] | + | * {{attn}} |
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||Jesus Christ was conceived through a physical act rather than by the power of the Holy Ghost.|| | ||Jesus Christ was conceived through a physical act rather than by the power of the Holy Ghost.|| | ||
| − | + | * {{Prejudicial}} | |
| − | * {{FalseStatement}}: LDS scripture teaches that Jesus was conceived when Mary "was carried away in the Spirit" ({{s|1|Nephi|11|19}}). We know | + | * {{FalseStatement}}: LDS scripture teaches that Jesus was conceived when Mary "was carried away in the Spirit" ({{s|1|Nephi|11|19}}). We know of no details beyond this, save that God the Father was Jesus' literal Father; there is nothing allegorical about Jesus' parentage. |
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| − | of no details beyond this, save that God the Father was Jesus' literal Father; there is nothing allegorical about Jesus' parentage. | ||
* [[Jesus Christ's conception]] | * [[Jesus Christ's conception]] | ||
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| − | ||1 Nephi 13:40 was changed from "Christ is the Eternal Father" to "the Lamb of God is the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world."||[[Book | + | ||1 Nephi 13:40 was changed from "Christ is the Eternal Father" to "the Lamb of God is the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world."|| |
| − | + | *[[Book of Mormon textual changes#Significant changes|Book of Mormon textual changes—Significant changes]] | |
| − | of Mormon textual changes#Significant changes|Book of Mormon textual changes—Significant changes]]|| | + | || |
*Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, p. 32 | *Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, p. 32 | ||
*1 Nephi 13:40. | *1 Nephi 13:40. | ||
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| − | ||1 Nephi 11:18 was changed from "the mother of God" to "the mother of the Son of God"||[[Book of Mormon textual changes#Significant | + | ||1 Nephi 11:18 was changed from "the mother of God" to "the mother of the Son of God"|| |
| − | + | *[[Book of Mormon textual changes#Significant changes|Book of Mormon textual changes—Significant changes]] | |
| − | changes|Book of Mormon textual changes—Significant changes]]|| | + | || |
*Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, p. 25 | *Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, p. 25 | ||
*1 Nephi 11:18 | *1 Nephi 11:18 | ||
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| − | ||1 Nephi 11:21 was changed from "the Lamb of God, yea, even the Eternal Father" to "the Lamb of God, yea, even the Son of the Eternal | + | ||1 Nephi 11:21 was changed from "the Lamb of God, yea, even the Eternal Father" to "the Lamb of God, yea, even the Son of the Eternal Father."|| |
| − | + | * [[Book of Mormon textual changes#Significant changes|Book of Mormon textual changes—Significant changes]] | |
| − | Father."||[[Book of Mormon textual changes#Significant changes|Book of Mormon textual changes—Significant changes]]|| | + | || |
*Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, p. 26 | *Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, p. 26 | ||
*1 Nephi 11:21 | *1 Nephi 11:21 | ||
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| − | ||1 Nephi 11:32 was changed from "the Everlasting God" to "the Son of the everlasting God."||[[Book of Mormon textual changes#Significant | + | ||1 Nephi 11:32 was changed from "the Everlasting God" to "the Son of the everlasting God."|| |
| − | + | * [[Book of Mormon textual changes#Significant changes|Book of Mormon textual changes—Significant changes]] | |
| − | changes|Book of Mormon textual changes—Significant changes]]|| | + | || |
*Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, p. 26 | *Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, p. 26 | ||
*1 Nephi 11:32 | *1 Nephi 11:32 | ||
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| − | ||The Lectures on Faith state that God is a spirit.||[[Lecture 5 teaches the Father is "a personage of spirit"]] | + | ||The Lectures on Faith state that God is a spirit.|| |
| + | * [[Lecture 5 teaches the Father is "a personage of spirit"]] | ||
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| + | * {{attn}} | ||
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| − | ||The Lectures on Faith were removed from the Doctrine and Covenants.||[[Lectures on Faith removed from Doctrine and Covenants]] | + | ||The Lectures on Faith were removed from the Doctrine and Covenants.|| |
| + | * The Lectures were never canonized. | ||
| + | * [[Lectures on Faith removed from Doctrine and Covenants]] | ||
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| + | * {{attn}} | ||
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| − | ||The Book of Mormon teaches that God is "unchangable," but LDS leaders taught otherwise.||[[Unchanging Nature of God]] | + | ||The Book of Mormon teaches that God is "unchangable," but LDS leaders taught otherwise.|| |
| + | * {{HistoricalError}}: [[Unchanging Nature of God]] | ||
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| − | ||The Lectures on Faith indicate that there are only two personages in the Godhead, and that their mind is the Holy Spirit.||[[Lecture 5 | + | ||The Lectures on Faith indicate that there are only two personages in the Godhead, and that their mind is the Holy Spirit.|| |
| − | + | * [[Lecture 5 teaches the Father is "a personage of spirit"]] | |
| − | teaches the Father is "a personage of spirit"]] | + | || |
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| − | ||LDS leaders can't explain why the Holy Ghost should be denied a body since the Father has one.||[[ | + | ||LDS leaders can't explain why the Holy Ghost should be denied a body since the Father has one. |
| + | * {{Absurd}} | ||
| + | * {{FalseStatement}}: The scriptures tell us why the Holy Ghost does not (at present) have a body: "the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us" ({{s||DC|130|22}}). | ||
| + | * [[Holy_Ghost/Will_he_receive_a_body|Will the Holy Ghost receive a body?]] | ||
| + | * [[Holy_Ghost/Divinity_without_a_body|Holy Ghost—divine without a body?]] | ||
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| − | ||The Holy Ghost can't be a God since he doesn't have a body.||[[ | + | ||The Holy Ghost can't be a God since he doesn't have a body.|| |
| + | * {{Absurd}}: [[Holy_Ghost/Divinity_without_a_body|Holy Ghost—divine without a body?]] | ||
| + | * [[Holy_Ghost/Will_he_receive_a_body|Will the Holy Ghost receive a body?]] | ||
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||During the First Vision, Joseph learned that the Father and Jesus Christ have bodies of flesh and bones. | ||During the First Vision, Joseph learned that the Father and Jesus Christ have bodies of flesh and bones. | ||
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| Chapter 6 | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: Jerald and Sandra Tanner
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Chapter 8 |
Claims made in Chapter 7: The Godhead
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The Book of Mormon teaches that God is a spirit. |
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The Book of Moses says that God created the earth, but the Book of Abraham says that "the Gods" created the earth. |
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God is "just an exalted man." |
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There is a "Heavenly Mother." |
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Jesus Christ was conceived through a physical act rather than by the power of the Holy Ghost. |
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183 |
1 Nephi 13:40 was changed from "Christ is the Eternal Father" to "the Lamb of God is the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world." |
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183 |
1 Nephi 11:18 was changed from "the mother of God" to "the mother of the Son of God" |
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183 |
1 Nephi 11:21 was changed from "the Lamb of God, yea, even the Eternal Father" to "the Lamb of God, yea, even the Son of the Eternal Father." |
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1 Nephi 11:32 was changed from "the Everlasting God" to "the Son of the everlasting God." |
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The Lectures on Faith state that God is a spirit. |
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The Lectures on Faith were removed from the Doctrine and Covenants. |
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187 |
The Book of Mormon teaches that God is "unchangable," but LDS leaders taught otherwise. |
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The Lectures on Faith indicate that there are only two personages in the Godhead, and that their mind is the Holy Spirit. |
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190 |
LDS leaders can't explain why the Holy Ghost should be denied a body since the Father has one.
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The Holy Ghost can't be a God since he doesn't have a body. |
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During the First Vision, Joseph learned that the Father and Jesus Christ have bodies of flesh and bones. |