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*Benjamin F. Johnson is claimed to be "representative of the mainstream in LDS practice" because he married seven wives… | *Benjamin F. Johnson is claimed to be "representative of the mainstream in LDS practice" because he married seven wives… | ||
+ | *The publisher's response to this original claim generated a new claim: That Joseph "justified taking a monagamist's wife and giving it to a man who already had ten." | ||
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*In fact, Johnson had more wives than even the average Nauvoo-era polygamist, and these were a small, highly selected group compared to polygamists in Utah. | *In fact, Johnson had more wives than even the average Nauvoo-era polygamist, and these were a small, highly selected group compared to polygamists in Utah. | ||
*[[Incidence of polygamy]] | *[[Incidence of polygamy]] | ||
*{{GLS-Nauvoo Polygamy-FARMS}} | *{{GLS-Nauvoo Polygamy-FARMS}} | ||
+ | *{{AuthorPublisherResponse}} George noted that Benjamin Johnson entered "the mainstream" of LDS practice and married seven wives and added the mild quip that this was "a few short of the model of ten talents." The reviewer responded with two pages documenting that most Utah polygamous households included fewer than seven wives. True enough, but the polygamous pioneers in Nauvoo, whose families averaged 3-4 wives, grew to 6-7 wives per family in Utah—something George discusses at length in his book and the reviewer conceals from readers. What G. L. Smith neglected to explain was Joseph Smith's interpretation of the New Testament parable of the talents, by which the founder of Mormon polygamy justified taking a monagamist's wife and giving it to a man who already had ten. George did not mean to imply by this that a man literally had to have ten wives to qualify for such a program. | ||
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Revision as of 12:49, 25 March 2009
Chapter 3 (pp. 159-240) | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: George D. Smith
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Claims made in "Chapter 4" (pp. 241-324)
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Joseph Smith: cynical motivations (edit) |
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Statistical problems (edit) |
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Endnotes
- [note] Smith, Intimate Chronicle, xlix, 488–489, 490 n. 444.
- [note] Steven Epperson, ""The Grand, Fundamental Principle": Joseph Smith and the Virtue of Friendship," Journal of Mormon History 23/2 (Fall 1997): 81-101. See also DC 84꞉63,77-78, DC 88꞉3-4,62,113,117, DC 93꞉51, DC 94꞉1, DC 97꞉1, DC 100꞉1, DC 103꞉1, DC 104꞉1, DC 105꞉26, DC 109꞉6, DC 121꞉9-10, DC 125꞉25, JS-H 1꞉28.
- [note] See, for example, Augusta Joyce Crocheron (author and complier), Representative Women of Deseret, a book of biographical sketches to accompany the picture bearing the same title (Salt Lake City: J. C. Graham & Co., 1884). See also Stanley B. Kimball, "Heber C. Kimball and Family, the Nauvoo Years," Brigham Young University Studies 15/4 (Summer 1975): 466; citing Heber C. Kimball to Vilate Kimball, 12 February 1849. Original letter formerly in the possession of President Spencer W. Kimball, and now in the Church Historical Department; and Vilate Kimball to Heber C. Kimball, 16 October 1842 as quoted in Helen Mar Whitney, "Scenes and Incidents," 11 (1 June 1882):1-2.
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