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− | ||"That [Rhoda Richards] was her husband Brigham's cousin was apparently secondary to the grander scheme of interlocking the hierarchy in marriage." | + | || |
+ | *{{AuthorQuote|"That [Rhoda Richards] was her husband Brigham's cousin was apparently secondary to the grander scheme of interlocking the hierarchy in marriage."}} | ||
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*Here the author again relies on presentism to provide a hostile interpretive lens. It was not unusual for first cousins to marry. Nineteen of the present-day states permit unrestricted marriage between first cousins, and most countries have no restrictions at all on marriage between cousins. In its exploitation of the presentist fallacy, the author’s remark is utterly irrelevant in its historical context. | *Here the author again relies on presentism to provide a hostile interpretive lens. It was not unusual for first cousins to marry. Nineteen of the present-day states permit unrestricted marriage between first cousins, and most countries have no restrictions at all on marriage between cousins. In its exploitation of the presentist fallacy, the author’s remark is utterly irrelevant in its historical context. | ||
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+ | *The author states that "Smith and Clayton spent three hours preparing the eloquent language" of D&C 132…. | ||
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*Presumes or implies that Joseph Smith and William Clayton were the author(s). | *Presumes or implies that Joseph Smith and William Clayton were the author(s). | ||
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+ | *The author speculates that Joseph "found it useful to reference the conditional restriction on marriage found in the Book of Mormon." | ||
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*Implies that Joseph was acting out of pragmatism or opportunity, rather than out of sincere conviction. | *Implies that Joseph was acting out of pragmatism or opportunity, rather than out of sincere conviction. | ||
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− | ||The author intends Joseph to be seen as arrogant. He quotes a letter from Joseph to James Arlington Bennet: | + | || |
+ | *The author intends Joseph to be seen as arrogant. He quotes a letter from Joseph to James Arlington Bennet: | ||
:“I combat the errors of ages; I meet the violence of mobs; I cope with illegal proceedings from executive authority; I cut the Gordian knot of powers, and I solve mathematical problems of universities, with truth . . . diamond truth; and God is my ‘right hand man.’” | :“I combat the errors of ages; I meet the violence of mobs; I cope with illegal proceedings from executive authority; I cut the Gordian knot of powers, and I solve mathematical problems of universities, with truth . . . diamond truth; and God is my ‘right hand man.’” | ||
− | The author then editorializes: | + | *The author then editorializes: |
:“With such a self-image, it is not surprising that he also aspired to the highest office in the land: the presidency of the United States.” | :“With such a self-image, it is not surprising that he also aspired to the highest office in the land: the presidency of the United States.” | ||
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− | ||The author again quotes Joseph: "‘I am learned, and know more than all the world put together." | + | || |
+ | *The author again quotes Joseph: "‘I am learned, and know more than all the world put together." | ||
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*The author does not quote enough of Joseph's remarks to complete his thought. | *The author does not quote enough of Joseph's remarks to complete his thought. | ||
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+ | *The author claims that there is "no reason to doubt that Smith's marriages involved sexual relations in most instances." | ||
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*We have evidence of sexual relations for only nine wives. | *We have evidence of sexual relations for only nine wives. | ||
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+ | *Mary Elizabeth Lightner is claimed to have spoken of "'three children' whom she said she 'knew he had.'" | ||
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*[[Joseph Smith and polygamy/Children of polygamous marriages]] | *[[Joseph Smith and polygamy/Children of polygamous marriages]] | ||
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− | ||"Until decisive DNA testing of possible Smith descendants—daughters as well as sons—from plural wives can be accomplished, ascertaining whether Smith fathered children with any of his plural wives remains hypothetical." | + | || |
+ | *{{AuthorQuote|"Until decisive DNA testing of possible Smith descendants—daughters as well as sons—from plural wives can be accomplished, ascertaining whether Smith fathered children with any of his plural wives remains hypothetical."}} | ||
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*This is true, but the author fails to tell us that all those who have been definitively tested so far—Oliver Buell, Mosiah Hancock, Zebulon Jacobs, Moroni Pratt, and Orrison Smith—have been excluded. Would he have neglected, one wonders, to mention a positive DNA test? | *This is true, but the author fails to tell us that all those who have been definitively tested so far—Oliver Buell, Mosiah Hancock, Zebulon Jacobs, Moroni Pratt, and Orrison Smith—have been excluded. Would he have neglected, one wonders, to mention a positive DNA test? | ||
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+ | *The author claims that in 1841 "Sarah Pratt firmly rebuffed Smith and remained monogamously committed to her missionary husband." | ||
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*The author here again follows Bennett completely uncritically. He tells us nothing about the multiple witnesses who testified to Sarah's adultery with Bennett. | *The author here again follows Bennett completely uncritically. He tells us nothing about the multiple witnesses who testified to Sarah's adultery with Bennett. | ||
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+ | *The author speculates that "Cordelia C. Morley Cox...had rejected [Joseph's] amorous proposal." | ||
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*The author again uses loaded language. There is little evidence that Joseph's proposals were romantic or amorous. | *The author again uses loaded language. There is little evidence that Joseph's proposals were romantic or amorous. | ||
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− | ||Eliza Winters “perhaps did not” resist Joseph’s advances “but apparently talked about it all the same.” | + | || |
+ | *It is speculated that Eliza Winters “perhaps did not” resist Joseph’s advances “but apparently talked about it all the same.” | ||
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− | ||"According to LDS theology, the posthumous sealing meant that Heber would be Smith's son in the eternities, not the son of his biological father." | + | || |
+ | *{{AuthorQuote|"According to LDS theology, the posthumous sealing meant that Heber would be Smith's son in the eternities, not the son of his biological father."}} | ||
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* Heber was connected to Joseph because all believers had to be sealed into one large family. This was no attempt to displace Heber's biological father, but grew out of the recognition that his father had not been a believer, and so had not accepted essential ordinances. Later clarification under Wilford Woodruff encouraged believers to be sealed to their biological family, with the understanding that such matters would be sorted out through God's mercy and justice via proxy ordinances for the deceased. | * Heber was connected to Joseph because all believers had to be sealed into one large family. This was no attempt to displace Heber's biological father, but grew out of the recognition that his father had not been a believer, and so had not accepted essential ordinances. Later clarification under Wilford Woodruff encouraged believers to be sealed to their biological family, with the understanding that such matters would be sorted out through God's mercy and justice via proxy ordinances for the deceased. | ||
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+ | *It is claimes that in 1831 Joseph "directed missionaries to marry native American women." | ||
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*[[Native Americans to become "white and delightsome" through polygamous marriage?]] | *[[Native Americans to become "white and delightsome" through polygamous marriage?]] | ||
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− | ||The author hints that Emma would have to sneak up on Joseph to check up on him, as evidenced by “his warning to Sarah Ann to proceed carefully in order to make sure Emma would not find them in their hiding place.” | + | || |
+ | *The author hints that Emma would have to sneak up on Joseph to check up on him, as evidenced by “his warning to Sarah Ann to proceed carefully in order to make sure Emma would not find them in their hiding place.” | ||
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*Joseph’s hiding place from the mob and instructions to the Whitneys have been transmogrified into a hiding place for Joseph and Sarah Ann. | *Joseph’s hiding place from the mob and instructions to the Whitneys have been transmogrified into a hiding place for Joseph and Sarah Ann. | ||
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+ | *The author asks us to “assume . . . that LeRoi Snow’s account [about Emma and Eliza and the stairs] was accurate.” | ||
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*Yet again, the author provides no hint that most researchers doubt this event. He does nothing to deal with his sources' objections here or elsewhere. | *Yet again, the author provides no hint that most researchers doubt this event. He does nothing to deal with his sources' objections here or elsewhere. | ||
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− | ||"Just as Joseph sought comfort from Sarah Ann the day Emma departed from his hideout…." | + | || |
+ | *{{AuthorQuote|"Just as Joseph sought comfort from Sarah Ann the day Emma departed from his hideout…."}} | ||
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*The author's version of Sarah Ann is again trotted out. | *The author's version of Sarah Ann is again trotted out. | ||
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− | ||Joseph's "insatiable addition of one woman after another to an invisible family…." | + | || |
+ | *The author refers to what he calls Joseph's "insatiable addition of one woman after another to an invisible family…." | ||
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*If Joseph was "insatiable," ("unable to be satisfied") how could he avoid entering into marriages for the last nine months of his life? | *If Joseph was "insatiable," ("unable to be satisfied") how could he avoid entering into marriages for the last nine months of his life? | ||
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− | ||Joseph had a "prolonged dalliance with Fanny Alger." | + | || |
+ | *The author claims that Joseph had a "prolonged dalliance with Fanny Alger." | ||
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*[[Polygamy_book/Introduction_of_the_eternal_marriage|Fanny Alger—affair or marriage?]] | *[[Polygamy_book/Introduction_of_the_eternal_marriage|Fanny Alger—affair or marriage?]] |
Revision as of 22:25, 18 March 2009
Chapter 2 (pp. 108-255) | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: George D. Smith
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The author does not tell us that Madsen's work (which he cites for his claim) demonstrates that Joseph properly discharged all his financial duties as guardians of the Lawrence estate. The author completely ignores the primary documents on this issue, and relies only on Law's hostile, and demonstrably false, account.
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Eliza Winters (edit) |
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Ignoring Hancock autobiography (edit) Fanny Alger (edit) Womanizing & romance (edit) |
Endnotes
- [note] Todd M. Compton, “Response to Tanners,” post to LDS Bookshelf mailing list (no date), <http://www.lds-mormon.com/compton.shtml> (accessed 2 December 2008). Compare with Smith, Nauvoo Polygamy, 198–202, 302, 362 and Compton, In Sacred Loneliness, 14.
- [note] See Smith, An Intimate Chronicle, 558; see also History of the Church 5:xxxii; citing William Clayton, affidavit, 16 February 1874, Salt Lake City, Utah; originally published in Andrew Jenson, "Plural Marriage," Historical Record 6 (May 1887): 224-226.
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