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+ | *Joseph's first polyamous marriage was with Fanny Alger. | ||
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*[[Joseph Smith and polygamy/Marriages to young women#Fanny Alger|Fanny Alger]] | *[[Joseph Smith and polygamy/Marriages to young women#Fanny Alger|Fanny Alger]] | ||
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− | ||William McLellin | + | || |
+ | *Did William McLellin report that Joseph and Fanny were found "in the barn together alone...?" | ||
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*[[Joseph Smith and polygamy/Fanny Alger and William McLellin|Fanny Alger and William McLellin]] | *[[Joseph Smith and polygamy/Fanny Alger and William McLellin|Fanny Alger and William McLellin]] | ||
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+ | *Was the inclusion of the statement on marriage in the 1835 D&C was "an attempt to cover-up the Smith-Alger affair" as the author claims? | ||
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*[[1835 Doctrine and Covenants denies polygamy]] | *[[1835 Doctrine and Covenants denies polygamy]] | ||
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+ | *Did land specuation in Kirtland "consume" the "thoughts of nearly every Saint, including [Joseph] Smith?" | ||
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*The citation does not support the author's assertion that this involved "nearly every Saint, including Smith." | *The citation does not support the author's assertion that this involved "nearly every Saint, including Smith." | ||
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− | ||Joseph is | + | *Joseph is claimed to have owned one hundred and forty acres of land near the Kirtland temple lot in addition to four acres of business property. |
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* This was Church land which Joseph held in trust. | * This was Church land which Joseph held in trust. | ||
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− | ||Isaac McWithy | + | *Was Isaac McWithy brought before the church's High Council on charges of "insolence" after refusing to sell his land to Joseph Smith for $3000? |
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*[[../../Notable omissions#531|Notable omissions: Isaac McWithy tried for insolence]] | *[[../../Notable omissions#531|Notable omissions: Isaac McWithy tried for insolence]] | ||
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− | ||"Smith decided to solve his economic dilemma by establishing a bank for the purpose of land speculation." | + | || |
+ | *{{AuthorQuote|"Smith decided to solve his economic dilemma by establishing a bank for the purpose of land speculation."}} | ||
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*[[../../Loaded and prejudicial language|Loaded and prejudicial language]] | *[[../../Loaded and prejudicial language|Loaded and prejudicial language]] | ||
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− | ||Joseph Smith | + | || |
+ | *Did Joseph Smith claim that "God told him" to establish the bank in Kirtland? | ||
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*The author paraphrases Brodie's assertion that "The bank was said to have been established by a revelation from God..." | *The author paraphrases Brodie's assertion that "The bank was said to have been established by a revelation from God..." | ||
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− | *Was the Kirtland anti-bank backed only by boxes "filled with 'sand,lead, old iron, stone, and combustibles? | + | *Was the Kirtland anti-bank backed only by boxes "filled with 'sand,lead, old iron, stone, and combustibles" as claimed by Fawn Brodie? |
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*This quote is from Brodie, who in turn cites three hostile anti-Mormon sources: {{CriticalWork:Wyl:Mormon Portraits Volume First|pages=36}} [1886], Oliver Olney, ''Absurdities of Mormonism Portrayed'', p. 4 [1843], and E.G. Lee, ''The Mormons, or Knavery Exposed'', p. 14 [1841]. | *This quote is from Brodie, who in turn cites three hostile anti-Mormon sources: {{CriticalWork:Wyl:Mormon Portraits Volume First|pages=36}} [1886], Oliver Olney, ''Absurdities of Mormonism Portrayed'', p. 4 [1843], and E.G. Lee, ''The Mormons, or Knavery Exposed'', p. 14 [1841]. | ||
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− | || | + | *Is it true that "[e]veryone's pockets bulged with bills" in Kirtland after the bank was established as asserted by Fawn Brodie? |
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*The author quotes Brodie's opinion. Brodie provides no citation to back up the assertion that "everyone's pockets bulged with bills." | *The author quotes Brodie's opinion. Brodie provides no citation to back up the assertion that "everyone's pockets bulged with bills." |
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Claims made in "Chapter 6: No rest for the Righteous" | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: Richard Abanes
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Claims made in "Chapter 8: Big Trouble In Little Missouri" |
Claims made in "Chapter 7: Woe In Ohio"
Smith decided to solve his economic dilemma by establishing a bank for the purpose of land speculation.
—One Nation Under Gods, p. 135. (paperback edition)
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