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Daniel Wallace (a non-LDS, conservative Christian scholar) wrote of this same issue: | Daniel Wallace (a non-LDS, conservative Christian scholar) wrote of this same issue: | ||
− | :...There seems to be a contradiction between this account [Acts 9:7] of Paul's conversion and his account of it in Acts 22, for there he says, "those who were with me..did ''not'' hear the voice..." However, in Acts 22:9 the verb | + | :...There seems to be a contradiction between this account [Acts 9:7] of Paul's conversion and his account of it in Acts 22, for there he says, "those who were with me..did ''not'' hear the voice..." However, in Acts 22:9 the verb ἀκούω takes an ''accusative'' direct object. On these two passages, Robertson states: '...it is perfectly proper to appeal to the distinction in the cases in the apparent contradiction....The accusative case (case of extent) accents the intellectual apprehension of the sound, while the genitive (specifying case) calls attention to the sound of the voice without accenting the sense.'... |
− | :The NIV [a conservative Bible translation, the New International Version] seems to follow this line of reasoning....[thus the differences in case] can be appealed to to harmonize these two accounts...."{{ref|wallace.1}} | + | :The NIV [a conservative Bible translation, the New International Version] seems to follow this line of reasoning....[thus the differences in case] can be appealed to to harmonize these two accounts...."{{io}} {{ref|wallace.1}} |
Thus, Wallace is here dealing with the exact verses under discussion, and notes the exact argument which Abanes makes. Does he agree? Let us see: | Thus, Wallace is here dealing with the exact verses under discussion, and notes the exact argument which Abanes makes. Does he agree? Let us see: | ||
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+ | : On the other hand, it is doubtful that this is where the difference lay between the two cases used with akkkk in Hellenistic Greek: the N[ew] T[estament] (incluidng the more literary writers) is filled with examples of ἀκούω + '''''genitive''''' ''indicating understanding''...{{ref|wallace.2a}}as well as instances of ἀκούω + '''''accusative''''' ''where little or no comprehension takes place''{{ref|wallace.2b}...<font color=red>The exceptions, in fact, are seemingly more numerous than the rule! | ||
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+ | :Thus, regardless of how one works through the accounts of Paul's conversion, an appeal to different cases probably ought ''not'' form any part of the solution.</font>(''italics'' and ''''bold italics''''' in original; <font color=red>red color</font> added){{ref|wallace.2}} | ||
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+ | Thus, the New Testament itself does not agree with Abanes' reading. Far from supporting him, Greek scholarship argues against his solution—the Bible has more examples where his supposed "rule" is broken than when it is followed. It would seem that this approach has been developed primarily by ultraconservatives who wish to maintain the idea of [[Biblical inerrancy|biblical inerrancy]]. | ||
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Those who were with me saw the light, but did not understand the voice of the one who was speaking to me. | Those who were with me saw the light, but did not understand the voice of the one who was speaking to me. | ||
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− | * Footnote to 9:7 acknowledges the | + | * Footnote to 9:7 acknowledges the problem "Acts 22:9 appears to indicate that they saw the light but did not hear a voice." Footnote for 22:9 argues for the "case" solution proposed by Abanes and rejected by Wallace. |
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#{{note|abanes.1}} {{CriticalWork:Abanes:Becoming Gods|pages=42, 43 (sidebar)}} | #{{note|abanes.1}} {{CriticalWork:Abanes:Becoming Gods|pages=42, 43 (sidebar)}} | ||
#{{note|vine.1}} W.E. Vine's M.A., ''Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words'' (1940). {{link|url=http://www2.mf.no/bibel/vines.html}} | #{{note|vine.1}} W.E. Vine's M.A., ''Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words'' (1940). {{link|url=http://www2.mf.no/bibel/vines.html}} | ||
+ | #{{note|wallace.1}} Daniel B. Wallace, ''Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: An Exegetical Syntax of the New Testament'' (Zondervan, 1997), 133. {{link|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=XlqoTVsk2wcC&pg=PA133&lpg=PA133&dq=acts+9:7+22:9&source=web&ots=DwD9v98AZF&sig=T_q7SRa0tLGNB8qfviUyTzn8nH4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result}} | ||
+ | #{{note|wallace.2a}} Wallace gives as examples which contradict Abanes' model: | ||
+ | #{{note|wallace.2b}}Wallace gives as examples which contradict Abanes' model: | ||
+ | #{{note|wallace.2}} Wallace, ''Beyond the Basics'', 133–134. {{link|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=XlqoTVsk2wcC&pg=PA133&lpg=PA133&dq=acts+9:7+22:9&source=web&ots=DwD9v98AZF&sig=T_q7SRa0tLGNB8qfviUyTzn8nH4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result}} | ||
==Further reading== | ==Further reading== |
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Joseph Smith left several accounts of his First Vision. None of these accounts is identical with any other. As the main page discusses, some critics wish to argue that Joseph's vision accounts are mutually contradictory, and thus that there was no vision.
Latter-day Saints often point out that the Bible's accounts of Paul's vision on the road to Damascus appear to be contradictory. Yet, the Church's sectarian critics accept Paul's account as true despite the Bible containing apparently frank contradictions in its accounts. While accepting or explaining away these discrepancies, the critics nevertheless refuse to give Joseph Smith the same latitude. Members of the Church have long pointed out that this is a clear double standard, designed to bias the audience against Joseph from the beginning.
Perhaps because of the force of this argument, some critics have begun to argue that no contradiction exists between the versions of Paul's vision. For example, Richard Abanes wrote that contradictions in the stories of Paul's vision were
In support of this claim, Abanes cites W.E. Vine, Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, p. 544.
The two verses usually at issue are Acts 9:7 and Acts 22:9:
The debate centers on the word translated "hearing" or "heard" in these verses:
Bible version | Acts 9:7 | Acts 22:9 | Comments |
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Summary |
Heard voice, saw no one? |
Saw light, heard no voice? |
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KJV |
And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. |
And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. |
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The work cited by Abanes is not a recent work of Greek scholarship—it was first published in 1940.[2] In the reference for ἀκούω, we read:
Thus, by this source, Abanes hopes to argue that there can be "no idea of any contradiction":
Factor | Acts 9:7 | Acts 22:9 | Comments |
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Case |
partitive genitive |
accusative |
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Meaning |
One hears the sound |
One hears the message |
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We have seen Abanes appeal to a source that was nearly sixty years old at the time of his writing. Have modern Greek scholars anything to add to our discussion?
Daniel Wallace (a non-LDS, conservative Christian scholar) wrote of this same issue:
Thus, Wallace is here dealing with the exact verses under discussion, and notes the exact argument which Abanes makes. Does he agree? Let us see:
Thus, the New Testament itself does not agree with Abanes' reading. Far from supporting him, Greek scholarship argues against his solution—the Bible has more examples where his supposed "rule" is broken than when it is followed. It would seem that this approach has been developed primarily by ultraconservatives who wish to maintain the idea of biblical inerrancy.
Bible version | Acts 9:7 | Acts 22:9 | Comments |
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Summary |
Heard voice, saw no one? |
Saw light, heard no voice? | |
KJV |
And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. |
And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. |
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NIV (1984) |
The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. |
My companions saw the light, but they did not understand the voice of him who was speaking to me. |
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New English Translation (NET) |
(Now the men who were traveling with him stood there speechless, because they heard the voice but saw no one.) |
Those who were with me saw the light, but did not understand the voice of the one who was speaking to me. |
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