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Boyd K. Packer



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President Packer: 12 October 2008 talk?

Summary: A common e-mail circulated by some members claims to be a transcript of remarks given by President Packer in the Forest Bend Ward in Salt Lake City, Utah, on 12 October 2008. Reportedly, Pres. Packer is quoted as saying that a catastrophic event was looming in the immediate future and that we must get used to making do with what we have or doing without. He is also quoted as saying the world was too dangerous for us to let our children play outside alone.

Boyd K. Packer: Youth generals in war in heaven?

Summary: One persistent rumor has Elder Packer claiming that today's youth were "generals" during the pre-mortal "war in heaven."

Those living in President Hinckley's time will be bowed to?

Summary: Boyd K. Packer and other Church leaders are quoted in a persistent chain email as having said to a group of LDS youth: "You were in the War in Heaven and one day when you are in the spirit world you will be enthralled with those who you are associated with. You will ask someone in which time period he lived in and you might hear, "I was with Moses when he parted the Red Sea," or "I helped build the pyramids," or "I fought with Captain Moroni." And as you are standing there in amazement, someone will turn to you and ask, "Which prophet time did you live in?" And when you say "Gordon B. Hinckley," a hush will fall over every hall, every corridor in heaven and all in attendance will bow at your presence."

Historical Suppression in the Church

Summary: xv (HB): Boyd K. Packer, BYU Studies 21:264-265

Boyd K. Packer on the truth

Summary: 441 (PB)

Boyd K. Packer: "Some things that are true are not very useful."

Summary: Elder Packer gave an address to religious educators called "The Mantle is Far, Far Greater Than the Intellect." The following quote is a favorite of critics who wish to demonstrate that the Church wishes to suppress its history and independent thought: "There is a temptation for the writer or the teacher of Church history to want to tell everything, whether it is worthy or faith promoting or not. Some things that are true are not very useful."

Boyd K. Packer: "A testimony is to be found in the bearing of it"

Summary: Elder Packer talked of gaining a testimony: "How can I bear testimony until I get one? How can I testify that God lives, that Jesus is the Christ, and that the gospel is true? If I do not have such a testimony, would that not be dishonest?’ Oh, if I could teach you this one principle: a testimony is to be found in the bearing of it!” Critics of the Church claim that Elder Packer to telling members to "lie your way" into obtaining a testimony.


The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has more information on this topic

"General Authorities: President Boyd K. Packer," The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Organization on LDS.org


President Boyd K. Packer, the President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, was set apart to this position on February 3, 2008. Previously, he was Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles beginning June 5, 1994. Prior to becoming Acting President, he served as a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, having been ordained an Apostle on April 9, 1970. He earlier served for almost nine years as an Assistant to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.


An educator by profession, his career includes service as supervisor of seminaries and institutes of religion for the Church and as a member of the Administrative Council of Brigham Young University.
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