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The Church taught that tithing was only payable on the surplus income after all other living expenses were covered. Also, if a person did not have the ability to pay they did not have to. This doctrine has been deliberately hidden from the members.
 
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{{misinformation|On the same page of the ''Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Lorenzo Snow'' manual that the author cites, we also see this quote from President Snow:
 
{{misinformation|On the same page of the ''Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Lorenzo Snow'' manual that the author cites, we also see this quote from President Snow:

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Response to "For my Wife and Children" ("Letter to my Wife"): Chapter 23 - Tithing



A FAIR Analysis of: For my Wife and Children (Letter to my Wife), a work by author: Anonymous

Response to claims made in "For my Wife and Children" ("Letter to my Wife"): Chapter 23 - Tithing


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Response to claim: "The definition and requirements of tithing have varied at different periods in the Church"

The author(s) of "For my Wife and Children" ("Letter to my Wife") make(s) the following claim:

The definition and requirements of tithing have varied at different periods in the Church

FAIR's Response

Fact checking results: This claim is based upon correct information - The author is providing knowledge concerning some particular fact, subject, or event

This is correct. The definition of what constitutes tithing has been modified over time by Latter-day prophets. The requirements related to tithing in the 21st century are not the same as they were in the 19th century.


Response to claim: Regarding a statement by Lorenzo Snow in a Church manual: "The removal of the phrase 'who has means' demonstrates that the modern Church is not above misrepresenting the truth to ensure being paid above the individual needs of members"

The author(s) of "For my Wife and Children" ("Letter to my Wife") make(s) the following claim:

At the October 1899 General Conference, President Lorenzo Snow delivered a talk on tithing.

“I plead with you in the name of the Lord, and I pray that every man, woman and child who has means shall pay one tenth of their income as a tithing...” (Conference Report, October 1899, p .28. http://archive.org/stream/conferencereport1899sa/con ferencereport692chur#page/ 28/mode/2up)

Again, the early brethren knew some were so burdened they had no means to pay. However, in a piece of disturbing information, an edited version of this statement was reprinted in the lesson manual Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: Lorenzo Snow, ch.12: Tithing, a Law For Our Protection and Advancement.

“I plead with you in the name of the Lord, and I pray that every man, woman and child ... shall pay one tenth of their income as a tithing” (Teachings of Lorenzo Snow manual, p.160. www.lds.org/manual/teachings-of-presidents-of-the-church-lorenzosnow/chapter-12-tithing-a-law-for-our-protection-and-advancement?lang=eng)

The removal of the phrase “who has means” demonstrates that the modern Church is not above misrepresenting the truth to ensure being paid above the individual needs of members.

The Church taught that tithing was only payable on the surplus income after all other living expenses were covered. Also, if a person did not have the ability to pay they did not have to. This doctrine has been deliberately hidden from the members.

FAIR's Response

Fact checking results: The author has stated erroneous information or misinterpreted their sources

On the same page of the Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Lorenzo Snow manual that the author cites, we also see this quote from President Snow:

There is no man or woman who can not pay one tenth of what he or she receives. [1]

President Snow is not exempting anyone in the Church from paying tithing. He did not qualify his statement to exclude the poor or destitute. A Church member who has no income does not "have the means" to pay tithing, and such will not prevent them from obtaining a temple recommend. This was true in President Snow's day just as it is true now.


Notes

  1. In “President Lorenzo Snow’s Message on Tithing,” 185; from the minutes of a meeting held in the Assembly Hall in Salt Lake City on May 29, 1899.