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==Response to claim: 53 - Joseph warned Martin Harris that God's wrath would strike him down if he examined the plates==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
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Joseph warned Martin Harris that God's wrath would strike him down if he examined the plates or looked at him while he was translating.
 
|authorsources=
 
No source provided.
 
|misinformation=Joseph said that if he showed the plates to anyone that God would strike ''Joseph'' down, not Martin.
 
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{{:Question: Did Joseph Smith say that viewing the gold plates would result in death?}}
 
  
==Response to claim: 53 - Harris once tried to trick Joseph by substituting an ordinary stone for the seer stone==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
Harris once tried to trick Joseph by substituting an ordinary stone for the seer stone.
 
|authorsources=
 
Summary of Martin Harris' sermon in Salt Lake City, September 4, 1870, ''Historical Record'', Vol. VI, p. 216.
 
|information=This is correct. Martin wanted to test Joseph's ability to actually use the stone, so he substituted it without Joseph's knowledge.
 
}}
 
{{:Source:Echoes:Ch12:18:Martin Harris on the translation process}}
 
 
==Response to claim: 54 - Lucy Harris stole the manuscript and "neither pleas nor blows could make her divulge its hiding place"==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
Lucy Harris stole the manuscript and "neither pleas nor blows could make her divulge its hiding place."
 
|authorsources=
 
Author's speculation.
 
|propaganda=The author is speculating that Martin beat his wife in an attempt to get her to divulge what she had done with the manuscript.
 
}}
 
*Lucy states in the Hurlbut affidavits that her husband "has whipped, kicked, and turned me out of the house." Despite the fact that Lucy Harris makes no mention of the lost 116 pages of manuscript from the ''Book of Mormon'', Fawn Brodie actually concludes that Harris beat his wife in order to get her to divulge what she had done with the lost 116 pages of manuscript.
 
*[[Specific works/The Hurlbut affidavits#Lucy Harris|The Hurlbut affidavits—Lucy Harris]]
 
 
==Response to claim: 54 - Joseph realized that he could not duplicate the 116 pages exactly==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
Joseph realized that he could not duplicate the 116 pages exactly.
 
|authorsources=
 
Author's conjecture.
 
|propaganda=The author, of course, doesn't believe that Joseph was a prophet, so she has come up with a reason why the 116 pages could not be duplicated.
 
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*{{MindReading}}
 
{{:Question: Was Joseph Smith afraid to reproduce the text of the lost 116 pages of Book of Mormon manuscript because he could not do so?}}
 
 
==Response to claim: 55 - Joseph's family was counting on sales of the Book of Mormon to prevent foreclosure on their farm==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
Joseph's family was counting on sales of the Book of Mormon to prevent foreclosure on their farm.
 
|authorsources=
 
None
 
|propaganda=The is absolutely no evidence that this is true.
 
}}
 
 
==Response to claim: 55 - Once Joseph had translated the small plates of Nephi, he could go back to the old plates and carry on==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
Once Joseph had translated the small plates of Nephi, he could go back to the old plates and carry on.
 
|authorsources=
 
|misinformation=There is actually evidence that Joseph continued from where he left off, and then went back and translated the small plates of Nephi.
 
}}
 
{{:Book of Mormon/Translation/Chronology}}
 
 
==Response to claim: 58 - The Isaiah chapters in the Book of Mormon were "chiefly those chapters from Isaiah mentioned in Ethan Smith's ''View of the Hebrews''==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
The Isaiah chapters in the Book of Mormon were "chiefly those chapters from Isaiah mentioned in Ethan Smith's ''View of the Hebrews''.
 
|authorsources=
 
No source provided.
 
|disinformation=''View of the Hebrews'' Chapter 2 quotes Deuteronomy 30; Isaiah 11, 18, 60, 65; Jeremiah 16, 23, 30-31, 35-37; Zephaniah 3; Amos 9; Hosea and Joel. Out of these, only Isaiah 11 appears in the Book of Mormon.
 
}}
 
*See also Jeff Lindsay, [http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/response/qa/bom_plagerize_view.htm Did Joseph Smith plagiarize from View of the Hebrews when writing the Book of Mormon?]
 
{{:Question: Does the Book of Mormon rely primarily on those chapters from Isaiah mentioned in Ethan Smith's ''View of the Hebrews''?}}
 
 
==Response to claim: 58 - Joseph was careful to modify primarily the italicized interpolation in the King James text==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
Joseph was careful to modify primarily the italicized interpolation in the King James text.
 
|authorsources=
 
Author's conjecture.
 
|propaganda=This is the author's guess. Ironically, other critics criticize the Book of Mormon for ''including'' some of the italicized words from Isaiah.
 
}}
 
{{:Question: What do the italicized words in the Bible represent, and why is it relevant to the Book of Mormon?}}
 
{{:Question: Did Joseph know what the italics in the Bible meant?}}
 
{{:Source:Barney:KJV Italics:three types of evidence favoring the conclusion that Joseph understood the meaning of the italicized words}}
 
{{:Question: Could Joseph have used a Bible during and simply dictated from it during Book of Mormon translation?}}
 
{{:Source:Anderson:By the Gift and Power of God:Ensign:September 1977:Joseph Smith may have used a bible during translation}}
 
{{:Question: Did Joseph own a Bible at the time of the Book of Mormon translation?}}
 
 
==Response to claim: 58 - Joseph incorporated one of his father's dreams into the Book of Mormon==
 
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|claim=
 
Joseph incorporated one of his father's dreams into the Book of Mormon
 
|authorsources=
 
Lucy Smith, ''Biographical Sketches'', pp. 58-9.
 
|propaganda=Joseph Smith, Sr's dream was recorded years after the Book of Mormon was published, and the telling of it was likely influence by the story in the Book of Mormon.
 
}}
 
{{:Question: Did Joseph Smith incorporate his father's dream of the tree of life into the Book of Mormon?}}
 
 
==Response to claim: 59 - Early in the writing Joseph vigorously attacked the Catholic Church as the "great and abominable church" and the "whore of all the earth"==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
Early in the writing Joseph vigorously attacked the Catholic Church as the "great and abominable church" and the "whore of all the earth"
 
|authorsources=
 
Source not provided.
 
|misinformation=The "great and abominable church" is never given a name.
 
}}
 
{{:Question: Do Latter-day Saints believe that the scriptural terms "church of the devil," the "great and abominable church," and the "whore of all the earth" refer to a specific religion?}}
 
 
==Response to claim: 60 - Lucy Smith's stories about the Golden Bible had converted Oliver Cowdery==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
Lucy Smith's stories about the Golden Bible had converted Oliver Cowdery.
 
|response=
 
|authorsources=
 
Author's conjecture.
 
|propaganda=This is the author's speculation. The author provides absolutely no evidence of this claim.
 
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==Response to claim: 62 - Joseph Smith's lack of education is "a favorite thesis designed to prove the authenticity" of the Book of Mormon==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
Joseph Smith's lack of education is "a favorite thesis designed to prove the authenticity" of the Book of Mormon.
 
|authorsources=
 
Author's opinion.
 
|propaganda=This is simply the author's opinion, without the benefit of any evidence.
 
}}
 
{{:Question: Does the Church teach or believe that Joseph Smith was "illiterate"?}}
 
{{:Source:Joseph Smith:1832 History:Education}}
 
 
==Response to claim: 62-63 - Joseph Smith borrowed many stories from the Bible==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
Joseph Smith borrowed many stories from the Bible.
 
|authorsources=
 
Author's opinion.
 
|propaganda=This is simply the author's opinion, without the benefit of any evidence.
 
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{{:Question: Does the Book of Mormon plagiarize the King James Bible?}}
 
 
==Response to claim: 63 - Joseph's sentence structure in the Book of Mormon was "loose-jointed, like an earthworm hacked into segments that crawl away alive and whole"==
 
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|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
Joseph's sentence structure in the Book of Mormon was "loose-jointed, like an earthworm hacked into segments that crawl away alive and whole."
 
|authorsources=
 
|propaganda=This is the author's opinion. In fact, quite the opposite is true.
 
}}
 
{{:Question: What is special about the chiasmus found in Alma 36?}}
 
 
==Response to claim: 65 - The story of the Gadianton band reflects the anti-Masonic feelings in New York at the time that the Book of Mormon was produced==
 
{{IndexClaimItemShort
 
|title=No Man Knows My History
 
|claim=
 
The story of the Gadianton band reflects the anti-Masonic feelings in New York at the time that the Book of Mormon was produced.
 
|authorsources=
 
No source given.
 
}}
 
{{propaganda|This is simply the author's conjecture.}}
 
{{:Question: Are the Gadianton robbers in the Book of Mormon actually references to the anti-Masonic panic of Joseph Smith's era?}}
 
{{:Question: Does the Book of Mormon contain anti-Masonic language?}}
 
 
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