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According to "historian Polly Aird," the Parrish and Potter murders committed during the Mormon reformation were "the best documented case of killing for the sin of apostasy" and "involved the entire church reporting line from Brigham Young down." | According to "historian Polly Aird," the Parrish and Potter murders committed during the Mormon reformation were "the best documented case of killing for the sin of apostasy" and "involved the entire church reporting line from Brigham Young down." | ||
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*Polly Aird, "Escape from Zion: The United States Army Escort of Mormon Apostates, 1859," ''Nevada Historical Society Quarterly'' 44/3 (Fall 2001): 196-237. | *Polly Aird, "Escape from Zion: The United States Army Escort of Mormon Apostates, 1859," ''Nevada Historical Society Quarterly'' 44/3 (Fall 2001): 196-237. | ||
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Contents
- 1 Response to claims made in Chapter 13: "Cedar City, April 7, 1859"
- 1.1 Quick Navigation
- 1.2 Response to claim: 190 - According to "historian Polly Aird," the Parrish and Potter murders committed during the Mormon reformation were "the best documented case of killing for the sin of apostasy" and "involved the entire church reporting line from Brigham Young down"
- 1.3 Response to claim: 190 - The author mentions the "execution-style killing of six California emigrants"
- 1.4 Response to claim: 190 - The author mentions that "castration and murder of another apostate"
- 1.5 Response to claim: 190 - The author mentions "blood atonement killings by Danite Porter Rockwell"
- 1.6 Response to claim: 193 - The author claims that there was a "burgeoning traffic of apostates now fleeing Zion" because of the Mountain Meadows affair and that this was "the largest emigration up to that time, overshadowing even the California gold rush of 1852"
- 1.7 Response to claim: 200 - Paiute chiefs said that they were not there at the beginning of the massacre and only became involved "under written orders from Brigham Young"
Response to claims made in Chapter 13: "Cedar City, April 7, 1859"
| Chapter 12 | A FAIR Analysis of: American Massacre: The Tragedy at Mountain Meadows A work by author: Sally Denton
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Chapter 14 |
- Response to claim: 190 - According to "historian Polly Aird," the Parrish and Potter murders committed during the Mormon reformation were "the best documented case of killing for the sin of apostasy" and "involved the entire church reporting line from Brigham Young down"
- [[Criticism of Mormonism/Books/American Massacre/Index/Chapter 13#Response to claim: 190 - The author mentions the "execution-style killing of six California emigrants"|Response to claim: 190 - The author mentions the "execution-style killing of six California emigrants"]
- Response to claim: 190 - The author mentions that "castration and murder of another apostate"
- Response to claim: 190 - The author mentions "blood atonement killings by Danite Porter Rockwell"
- Response to claim: 193 - The author claims that there was a "burgeoning traffic of apostates now fleeing Zion" because of the Mountain Meadows affair and that this was "the largest emigration up to that time, overshadowing even the California gold rush of 1852"
- Response to claim: 200 - Paiute chiefs said that they were not there at the beginning of the massacre and only became involved "under written orders from Brigham Young"
Response to claim: 190 - According to "historian Polly Aird," the Parrish and Potter murders committed during the Mormon reformation were "the best documented case of killing for the sin of apostasy" and "involved the entire church reporting line from Brigham Young down"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
According to "historian Polly Aird," the Parrish and Potter murders committed during the Mormon reformation were "the best documented case of killing for the sin of apostasy" and "involved the entire church reporting line from Brigham Young down."Author's sources: *Polly Aird, "Escape from Zion: The United States Army Escort of Mormon Apostates, 1859," Nevada Historical Society Quarterly 44/3 (Fall 2001): 196-237.
FAIR's Response
- For a detailed response, see: Parrish-Potter murders
- For a detailed response, see: Utah/Crime and violence and Crime and violence in Utah
Response to claim: 190 - The author mentions the "execution-style killing of six California emigrants"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The author mentions the "execution-style killing of six California emigrants."Author's sources: *No source provided.
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: 190 - The author mentions that "castration and murder of another apostate"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The author mentions that "castration and murder of another apostate."Author's sources: *No source provided.
FAIR's Response
- For a detailed response, see: Utah/Crime and violence/Castration in the 1800's
Response to claim: 190 - The author mentions "blood atonement killings by Danite Porter Rockwell"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The author mentions "blood atonement killings by Danite Porter Rockwell."Author's sources: *No source provided.
FAIR's Response
- For a detailed response, see: Mormonism and persecution/Danites
- For a detailed response, see: Danites in anti-Mormon polemic
Response to claim: 193 - The author claims that there was a "burgeoning traffic of apostates now fleeing Zion" because of the Mountain Meadows affair and that this was "the largest emigration up to that time, overshadowing even the California gold rush of 1852"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The author claims that there was a "burgeoning traffic of apostates now fleeing Zion" because of the Mountain Meadows affair and that this was "the largest emigration up to that time, overshadowing even the California gold rush of 1852."Author's sources: *Aird, 197.
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: 200 - Paiute chiefs said that they were not there at the beginning of the massacre and only became involved "under written orders from Brigham Young"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
Paiute chiefs said that they were not there at the beginning of the massacre and only became involved "under written orders from Brigham Young."Author's sources: U.S. House of Representatives, Utah and the Mormons, 17.
FAIR's Response
Fact checking results: This claim is false
Paiute chiefs would have been unable to read any letter from Brigham Young, even if such had existed. [1]
Notes