FAIR is a non-profit organization dedicated to providing well-documented answers to criticisms of the doctrine, practice, and history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Difference between revisions of "Countercult ministries/The Interactive Bible/Difficult Questions for Mormons/Treasure Hunting and Magic"
| Line 12: | Line 12: | ||
<!-- {{ChartCESLetterBookOfMormon}} --> | <!-- {{ChartCESLetterBookOfMormon}} --> | ||
==Quick Navigation== | ==Quick Navigation== | ||
| + | *[[Countercult ministries/The Interactive Bible/Difficult Questions for Mormons/Treasure Hunting and Magic#Response to claim: "Why was Joseph Smith arrested for "money digging" and convicted of being a disorderly person?"|Response to claim: "Why was Joseph Smith arrested for "money digging" and convicted of being a disorderly person?"] | ||
| + | *[[Countercult ministries/The Interactive Bible/Difficult Questions for Mormons/Treasure Hunting and Magic#Response to claim: "Why did Joseph Smith have to use a seer stone both before and after being called as a prophet?"|Response to claim: "Why did Joseph Smith have to use a seer stone both before and after being called as a prophet?"]] | ||
| + | *[[Countercult ministries/The Interactive Bible/Difficult Questions for Mormons/Treasure Hunting and Magic#Response to claim: "Why did the Book of Mormon have to be translated while he looked into the seer stone placed in a black top hat?"|Response to claim: "Why did the Book of Mormon have to be translated while he looked into the seer stone placed in a black top hat?"]] | ||
| + | *[[Countercult ministries/The Interactive Bible/Difficult Questions for Mormons/Treasure Hunting and Magic#Response to claim: "Why would a prophet need to send members to seek for treasure seen in a vision?"|Response to claim: "Why would a prophet need to send members to seek for treasure seen in a vision?"]] | ||
| + | *[[Countercult ministries/The Interactive Bible/Difficult Questions for Mormons/Treasure Hunting and Magic#Response to claim: "Did the Jaredites magic stones have anything to do with Joseph's acquaintance with magic stones?"|Response to claim: "Did the Jaredites magic stones have anything to do with Joseph's acquaintance with magic stones?"]] | ||
| + | *[[Countercult ministries/The Interactive Bible/Difficult Questions for Mormons/Treasure Hunting and Magic#Response to claim: "Why does the Book of Mormon discuss "slippery treasure" so much?"|Response to claim: "Why does the Book of Mormon discuss "slippery treasure" so much?"]] | ||
| + | |||
| + | |||
| + | ==Response to claim: "Why was Joseph Smith arrested for "money digging" and convicted of being a disorderly person?"== | ||
| + | {{IndexClaimItemShort | ||
| + | |title=Difficult Questions for Mormons | ||
| + | |claim=Response to claim: "Why was Joseph Smith arrested for "money digging" and convicted of being a disorderly person? He admitted to being a money digger, though he said it was never very profitable for him (History of the Church, V. 3, p. 29). He and his father's money digging continued until at least 1826. On March 20th, 1826, Joseph was arrested, brought before a judge, and charged with being a "glass-looker" and a disorderly person. The laws at that time had what was known as the "Vagrant Act." It defined a disorderly person as one who pretended to have skill in the areas of palmistry, telling fortunes or discovering where lost goods might be found. According to court records Justice Neely determined that Joseph was guilty, though no penalty was administered, quite possibly because this was a first offense (Inventing Mormonism, Marquardt and Walters, SLC: Signature Books, 1994, pp.74-75)." | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | |||
| + | ==Response to claim: "Why did Joseph Smith have to use a seer stone both before and after being called as a prophet?"== | ||
| + | {{IndexClaimItemShort | ||
| + | |title=Difficult Questions for Mormons | ||
| + | |claim=Response to claim: "Why did Joseph Smith have to use a seer stone both before and after being called as a prophet?" | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | |||
| + | ==Response to claim: "Why did the Book of Mormon have to be translated while he looked into the seer stone placed in a black top hat?"== | ||
| + | {{IndexClaimItemShort | ||
| + | |title=Difficult Questions for Mormons | ||
| + | |claim=Response to claim: "Why did the Book of Mormon have to be translated while he looked into the seer stone placed in a black top hat? D. Michael Quinn writes: "During this period from 1827 to 1830, Joseph Smith abandoned the company of his former money-digging associates, but continued to use for religious purposes the brown seer stone he had previously employed in the treasure quest. His most intensive and productive use of the seer stone was in the translation of the Book of Mormon. But he also dictated several revelations to his associates through the stone" (Early Mormonism and the Magic World View, D. Michael Quinn, Signature Books, SLC, 1987, p. 143). Richard S. Van Wagoner writes: "This stone, still retained by the First Presidency of the LDS Church, was the vehicle through which the golden plates were discovered and the medium through which their interpretation came" (Sidney Rigdon: A Portrait of Religious Excess, Signature Books, SLC, 1994, p.57)." | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | |||
| + | ==Response to claim: "Why would a prophet need to send members to seek for treasure seen in a vision?"== | ||
| + | {{IndexClaimItemShort | ||
| + | |title=Difficult Questions for Mormons | ||
| + | |claim=Response to claim: "Why would a prophet need to send members to seek for treasure seen in a vision? See D&C 111. Why wasn't any found when the revelation states they would?" | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | |||
| + | ==Response to claim: "Did the Jaredites magic stones have anything to do with Joseph's acquaintance with magic stones?"== | ||
| + | {{IndexClaimItemShort | ||
| + | |title=Difficult Questions for Mormons | ||
| + | |claim=Response to claim: "Did the Jaredites magic stones have anything to do with Joseph's acquaintance with magic stones?" | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | |||
| + | ==Response to claim: "Why does the Book of Mormon discuss "slippery treasure" so much?"== | ||
| + | {{IndexClaimItemShort | ||
| + | |title=Difficult Questions for Mormons | ||
| + | |claim=Response to claim: "Why does the Book of Mormon discuss "slippery treasure" so much?" | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | |||
| + | {{endnotes sources}} | ||
Revision as of 20:07, 14 October 2016
- REDIRECTTemplate:Test3
Contents
- 1 Response to "Difficult Questions for Mormons: Treasure Hunting and Magic"
- 1.1 Quick Navigation
- 1.2 Response to claim: "Why was Joseph Smith arrested for "money digging" and convicted of being a disorderly person?"
- 1.3 Response to claim: "Why did Joseph Smith have to use a seer stone both before and after being called as a prophet?"
- 1.4 Response to claim: "Why did the Book of Mormon have to be translated while he looked into the seer stone placed in a black top hat?"
- 1.5 Response to claim: "Why would a prophet need to send members to seek for treasure seen in a vision?"
- 1.6 Response to claim: "Did the Jaredites magic stones have anything to do with Joseph's acquaintance with magic stones?"
- 1.7 Response to claim: "Why does the Book of Mormon discuss "slippery treasure" so much?"
Response to "Difficult Questions for Mormons: Treasure Hunting and Magic"
| Main themes of Mormonism not in Book of Mormon | A FAIR Analysis of: Difficult Questions for Mormons A work by author: The Interactive Bible
|
First Vision |
- [[Countercult ministries/The Interactive Bible/Difficult Questions for Mormons/Treasure Hunting and Magic#Response to claim: "Why was Joseph Smith arrested for "money digging" and convicted of being a disorderly person?"|Response to claim: "Why was Joseph Smith arrested for "money digging" and convicted of being a disorderly person?"]
- Response to claim: "Why did Joseph Smith have to use a seer stone both before and after being called as a prophet?"
- Response to claim: "Why did the Book of Mormon have to be translated while he looked into the seer stone placed in a black top hat?"
- Response to claim: "Why would a prophet need to send members to seek for treasure seen in a vision?"
- Response to claim: "Did the Jaredites magic stones have anything to do with Joseph's acquaintance with magic stones?"
- Response to claim: "Why does the Book of Mormon discuss "slippery treasure" so much?"
Response to claim: "Why was Joseph Smith arrested for "money digging" and convicted of being a disorderly person?"
The author(s) of Difficult Questions for Mormons make(s) the following claim:
Response to claim: "Why was Joseph Smith arrested for "money digging" and convicted of being a disorderly person? He admitted to being a money digger, though he said it was never very profitable for him (History of the Church, V. 3, p. 29). He and his father's money digging continued until at least 1826. On March 20th, 1826, Joseph was arrested, brought before a judge, and charged with being a "glass-looker" and a disorderly person. The laws at that time had what was known as the "Vagrant Act." It defined a disorderly person as one who pretended to have skill in the areas of palmistry, telling fortunes or discovering where lost goods might be found. According to court records Justice Neely determined that Joseph was guilty, though no penalty was administered, quite possibly because this was a first offense (Inventing Mormonism, Marquardt and Walters, SLC: Signature Books, 1994, pp.74-75)."
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: "Why did Joseph Smith have to use a seer stone both before and after being called as a prophet?"
The author(s) of Difficult Questions for Mormons make(s) the following claim:
Response to claim: "Why did Joseph Smith have to use a seer stone both before and after being called as a prophet?"
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: "Why did the Book of Mormon have to be translated while he looked into the seer stone placed in a black top hat?"
The author(s) of Difficult Questions for Mormons make(s) the following claim:
Response to claim: "Why did the Book of Mormon have to be translated while he looked into the seer stone placed in a black top hat? D. Michael Quinn writes: "During this period from 1827 to 1830, Joseph Smith abandoned the company of his former money-digging associates, but continued to use for religious purposes the brown seer stone he had previously employed in the treasure quest. His most intensive and productive use of the seer stone was in the translation of the Book of Mormon. But he also dictated several revelations to his associates through the stone" (Early Mormonism and the Magic World View, D. Michael Quinn, Signature Books, SLC, 1987, p. 143). Richard S. Van Wagoner writes: "This stone, still retained by the First Presidency of the LDS Church, was the vehicle through which the golden plates were discovered and the medium through which their interpretation came" (Sidney Rigdon: A Portrait of Religious Excess, Signature Books, SLC, 1994, p.57)."
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: "Why would a prophet need to send members to seek for treasure seen in a vision?"
The author(s) of Difficult Questions for Mormons make(s) the following claim:
Response to claim: "Why would a prophet need to send members to seek for treasure seen in a vision? See D&C 111. Why wasn't any found when the revelation states they would?"
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: "Did the Jaredites magic stones have anything to do with Joseph's acquaintance with magic stones?"
The author(s) of Difficult Questions for Mormons make(s) the following claim:
Response to claim: "Did the Jaredites magic stones have anything to do with Joseph's acquaintance with magic stones?"
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: "Why does the Book of Mormon discuss "slippery treasure" so much?"
The author(s) of Difficult Questions for Mormons make(s) the following claim:
Response to claim: "Why does the Book of Mormon discuss "slippery treasure" so much?"
FAIR's Response
Notes