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|claim=The author states, "After deciding “Church of Jesus Christ” on April 6, 1830, Joseph Smith made the decision on May 3, 1834 to change the name of the Church to, “The Church of the Latter Day Saints”.  Why did Joseph take the name of “Jesus Christ” out of the very name of His restored Church?  The one and only true Church on the face of the earth in which Christ is the Head?....Why would Christ instruct Joseph to name it one thing in 1830 and then change it in 1834 and then change it again in 1838?"
 
|claim=The author states, "After deciding “Church of Jesus Christ” on April 6, 1830, Joseph Smith made the decision on May 3, 1834 to change the name of the Church to, “The Church of the Latter Day Saints”.  Why did Joseph take the name of “Jesus Christ” out of the very name of His restored Church?  The one and only true Church on the face of the earth in which Christ is the Head?....Why would Christ instruct Joseph to name it one thing in 1830 and then change it in 1834 and then change it again in 1838?"
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*{{answer}}Christ only instructed Joseph to change the name of the Church ''once''. Prior to that time, the Church was referred to by several different names. The only name for the Church established by revelation was the one mentioned in DC 115:3.
 
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...for thus it shall be called, and unto all the elders and people of my Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, scattered abroad in all the world.
 
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*{{Fact}}None of the other names (The Church of Christ; Church of Jesus Christ; Church of Christ of Latter Day Saints; The Church of God; The Church of Latter Day Saints) were established by revelation.
 
*{{Fact}}David Whitmer, however insisted that the original name of the Church was the only proper one, and claimed that it had been given by revelation. There is no known revelation to support this claim however, unless you count the Book of Mormon itself. Whitmer appears to be using the Book of Mormon to support this claim (the Book of Mormon uses "Church of Christ".)
 
*{{Incorrect}} According to Whitmer, Joseph didn't promote the name change. Whitmer claimed that it was Sidney Rigdon who pushed to change the name to "Church of the Latter Day Saints":
 
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In June, 1829, the Lord gave us the name by which we must call the church, being the same as He gave the Nephites. We obeyed His commandment, and called it THE CHURCH OF CHRIST until 1834, when, through the influence of Sydney Rigdon, the name of the church was changed to "The Church of the Latter Day Saints," dropping out the name of Christ entirely, that name which we were strictly commanded to call the church by, and which Christ by His own lips makes so plain. ({{AddressBelievers1| start=72}})
 
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*B.H. Roberts, in a note on pages 23 and 24 of the ''History of the Church'', Volume III, stated:
 
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It will be observed that in verses three and four of this revelation the Lord gives to the Church its official name, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." Previous to this the Church had been called "The Church of Christ," "The Church of Jesus Christ," "The Church of God," and by a conference of Elders held at Kirtland in May, 1834, (see Church History, vol. 2, pp. 62-3), it was given the name "The Church of the Latter-day Saints."  All these names, however, were by this revelation brushed aside, and since then the official name given in this revelation has been recognized as the true title of the Church, though often spoken of as "The Mormon Church," the "Church of Christ," etc.  The appropriateness of this title is self evident, and in it there is a beautiful recognition of the relationship both of the Lord Jesus Christ and of the Saints to the organization.
 
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|summary=Why did the Church change its name twice during its history? Shouldn't the name have been given by revelation?
 
 
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== Notes ==

  1. [note] Samuel Katich, "A Tale of Two Marriage Systems: Perspectives on Polyandry and Joseph Smith," Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research, 2003.