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|summary=Citing Joseph Smith's experiences with folk magic, treasure seeking and seer stones, it is claimed that Joseph Smith's spiritual experiences were originally products of magic and the occult. Some charge that only much later did Joseph retrofit his experiences in Christian, religious terms: speaking of God, angels, and prophethood rather than in terms of magic, treasure guardians and scrying. It is also claimed that a "vagabond fortune-teller" named Walters became popular in the Palmyra area, and that when Walters left the area, "his mantle fell upon" Joseph Smith. | |summary=Citing Joseph Smith's experiences with folk magic, treasure seeking and seer stones, it is claimed that Joseph Smith's spiritual experiences were originally products of magic and the occult. Some charge that only much later did Joseph retrofit his experiences in Christian, religious terms: speaking of God, angels, and prophethood rather than in terms of magic, treasure guardians and scrying. It is also claimed that a "vagabond fortune-teller" named Walters became popular in the Palmyra area, and that when Walters left the area, "his mantle fell upon" Joseph Smith. | ||
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Early members believed in "witchcraft" | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Early members believed in "witchcraft" | ||
|subject=Did early members believe in "witchcraft?" | |subject=Did early members believe in "witchcraft?" | ||
|summary=It is claimed that early members of the Church believed in witchcraft. They use this to imply or argue that this supports their view of Joseph Smith as involved in "the occult." | |summary=It is claimed that early members of the Church believed in witchcraft. They use this to imply or argue that this supports their view of Joseph Smith as involved in "the occult." | ||
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Book of Mormon recovered on autumnal equinox | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Book of Mormon recovered on autumnal equinox | ||
|subject=Book of Mormon recovered on autumnal equinox | |subject=Book of Mormon recovered on autumnal equinox | ||
|summary=It is claimed that Joseph Smith's preoccupation with "magick" is supported by the fact that meetings with Moroni and the recovery of the Book of Mormon occurred on the autumnal equinox, a date with astrological and magical significance. | |summary=It is claimed that Joseph Smith's preoccupation with "magick" is supported by the fact that meetings with Moroni and the recovery of the Book of Mormon occurred on the autumnal equinox, a date with astrological and magical significance. | ||
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Kabbalah influence | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Kabbalah influence | ||
|subject=Was Joseph Smith influenced by Kabbalah? | |subject=Was Joseph Smith influenced by Kabbalah? | ||
|summary=It is claimed that Joseph Smith's religious ideas derived in part from Kabbalah, a type of (usually Jewish) mysticism. | |summary=It is claimed that Joseph Smith's religious ideas derived in part from Kabbalah, a type of (usually Jewish) mysticism. | ||
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Lucy Mack Smith on "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Lucy Mack Smith on "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" | ||
|subject=Lucy Mack Smith on "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" | |subject=Lucy Mack Smith on "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" | ||
|summary=It is claimed that Lucy Mack Smith's discussion of the "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" is evidence for the strong role which "magick" played in the Smith family's early life. | |summary=It is claimed that Lucy Mack Smith's discussion of the "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" is evidence for the strong role which "magick" played in the Smith family's early life. | ||
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Jupiter talisman | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Jupiter talisman | ||
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|summary=It is claimed that a "vagabond fortune-teller" named Walters became popular in the Palmyra area, and that when Walters left the area, "his mantle fell upon" Joseph Smith. | |summary=It is claimed that a "vagabond fortune-teller" named Walters became popular in the Palmyra area, and that when Walters left the area, "his mantle fell upon" Joseph Smith. | ||
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Magick parchments | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Magick parchments | ||
|subject=Magick parchments | |subject=Magick parchments | ||
|summary=It is claimed that the Smith family owned "magic parchments," suggesting their involvement in the "occult." | |summary=It is claimed that the Smith family owned "magic parchments," suggesting their involvement in the "occult." | ||
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Mars_dagger | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Mars_dagger | ||
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|subject=Seer stones, use of | |subject=Seer stones, use of | ||
|summary=What can you tell me about Joseph's seer stone? What is its relation to the "Urim and Thummim"? Did Joseph place his seer stone in his hat while he was translating the Book of Mormon? | |summary=What can you tell me about Joseph's seer stone? What is its relation to the "Urim and Thummim"? Did Joseph place his seer stone in his hat while he was translating the Book of Mormon? | ||
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| + | |link= Non-existent quotes/Haight: assistance of the moon | ||
| + | |subject=Did David B. Haight use astrological ideas about the moon, only to be censored later? | ||
| + | |summary=It is claimed that Elder David B. Haight "reinvoked the astrological principle that people should 'do nothing without the assistance of the moon'" in a talk that he gave during General Conference in 1998. One critic takes this a step further by claiming that the phrase "do nothing without the assistance of the moon" was deleted from the transcribed version of Elder Haight's talk. This claim has evolved over time due to successive misinterpretation of the original sources. | ||
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Contents
- 1 "Magic" in Mormon history
- 1.1
- 1.2 Topics
- 1.3 "Magic" in Mormon history
- 1.3.1 Joseph Smith and the "occult" or "magick"
- 1.3.2 Did early members believe in "witchcraft?"
- 1.3.3 Book of Mormon recovered on autumnal equinox
- 1.3.4 Was Joseph Smith influenced by Kabbalah?
- 1.3.5 Lucy Mack Smith on "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles"
- 1.3.6 Jupiter talisman
- 1.3.7 Magick parchments
- 1.3.8 Mars dagger
- 1.3.9 Seer stones, use of
- 1.3.10 Did David B. Haight use astrological ideas about the moon, only to be censored later?
"Magic" in Mormon history
Topics
"Magic" in Mormon history
Joseph Smith and the "occult" or "magick"
Summary: Citing Joseph Smith's experiences with folk magic, treasure seeking and seer stones, it is claimed that Joseph Smith's spiritual experiences were originally products of magic and the occult. Some charge that only much later did Joseph retrofit his experiences in Christian, religious terms: speaking of God, angels, and prophethood rather than in terms of magic, treasure guardians and scrying. It is also claimed that a "vagabond fortune-teller" named Walters became popular in the Palmyra area, and that when Walters left the area, "his mantle fell upon" Joseph Smith.Did early members believe in "witchcraft?"
Summary: It is claimed that early members of the Church believed in witchcraft. They use this to imply or argue that this supports their view of Joseph Smith as involved in "the occult."Book of Mormon recovered on autumnal equinox
Summary: It is claimed that Joseph Smith's preoccupation with "magick" is supported by the fact that meetings with Moroni and the recovery of the Book of Mormon occurred on the autumnal equinox, a date with astrological and magical significance.Was Joseph Smith influenced by Kabbalah?
Summary: It is claimed that Joseph Smith's religious ideas derived in part from Kabbalah, a type of (usually Jewish) mysticism.Lucy Mack Smith on "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles"
Summary: It is claimed that Lucy Mack Smith's discussion of the "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" is evidence for the strong role which "magick" played in the Smith family's early life.Jupiter talisman
Summary: It is claimed that Joseph Smith had a Jupiter Talisman on his person when he was martyred and cite this as proof of his fascination with the occult.- Was the magician Walters a mentor to Joseph Smith?—
Brief Summary: It is claimed that a "vagabond fortune-teller" named Walters became popular in the Palmyra area, and that when Walters left the area, "his mantle fell upon" Joseph Smith. (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗
- Was the magician Walters a mentor to Joseph Smith?—
Magick parchments
Summary: It is claimed that the Smith family owned "magic parchments," suggesting their involvement in the "occult."Mars dagger
Summary: It is claimed that the Smith's owned a magic dagger that was among Hyrum Smith's heirlooms. They cite this as proof of the Smith family's deep involvement in ritual magick.Seer stones, use of
Summary: What can you tell me about Joseph's seer stone? What is its relation to the "Urim and Thummim"? Did Joseph place his seer stone in his hat while he was translating the Book of Mormon?Did David B. Haight use astrological ideas about the moon, only to be censored later?
Summary: It is claimed that Elder David B. Haight "reinvoked the astrological principle that people should 'do nothing without the assistance of the moon'" in a talk that he gave during General Conference in 1998. One critic takes this a step further by claiming that the phrase "do nothing without the assistance of the moon" was deleted from the transcribed version of Elder Haight's talk. This claim has evolved over time due to successive misinterpretation of the original sources.