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Contents
- 1 Response to claims made in "Chapter 9: By Whose Authority?"
- 1.1 138
- 1.2 Claim The author claims that "The priesthood of the Old Testament was brought to an end with the death of Christ.
- 1.3 Claim The author states that "God set the minimum age of the Aaronic Priesthood at twenty-five."
- 1.4 Claim The author states that "the only Christian priesthood mentioned in the New Testament is the spiritual priesthood of every believer."
- 1.5 Claim The author states that "Mormon high priests do not offer any sacrifices, so they are not following the Old Testament pattern."
- 1.6 Claim The author states that "the New Testament mentions Jewish priests, but an office of priest is never mentioned in the Christian church."
- 1.7 Claim The author claims that 1 Corinthians 12:27-31 refers to "various ministries or gifts in the early church" and that it is "not listing specific offices of the priesthood."
- 1.8 Claim The author states that "Paul lists apostles first and prophets second, indicating their order of importance." He states that in Mormonism that the apostles "serve under" the prophet, which he claims is a "reversal of the biblical order."
- 1.9 Claim The author states that the only men who could be chosen as apostles were those who were an "eyewitness to the full ministry of Jesus, including his resurrection," and states that "the New Testament offers no evidence that others were later chosen to take the place of anyone else in the twelve."
- 1.10 Claim The First Presidency plus the twelve apostles is equal to 15 apostles. The author states that this is not the same as Jesus' twelve apostles. The author states that that Mormonism has "too many apostles."
- 1.11 Claim The author claims that "bishop is not a separate office in the church but one of the elders."
- 1.12 Claim The author states that a deacon cannot be a 12-year-old boy, but must be mature men and "the husbands of one wife."
- 1.13 Claim The author states that "Teachers" must be "mature Christians" that are "able to teach others" rather than teenagers.
- 1.14 Claim The author states the the LDS Church "does not have any pastors," and states that it is "inconsistent for Mormons to insist the words apostles and teachers are specific offices of the priesthood while denying that pastor or evangelist are priesthood offices."
- 1.15 Claim The author states that "Evangelist" and "Patriarch" are not the same.
- 1.16 Claim The author claims that the Bible justifies a paid ministry.
- 1.17 Claim The author claims that "Many of the Mormons are not aware that their apostles receive a salary."
- 1.18 Claim The author complains that Church finances are not made public.
- 1.19 Claim The author claims that baptism does not need to be done "by someone holding a special priesthood," and that it is simply "a symbol of one's identification with Christ and is not a necessary requirement for salvation."
- 1.20 Claim The author states that "Joseph Smith supposedly restored the original temple ceremony of the Old Testament."
- 1.21 Claim The author states that Paul condemned "endless genealogies" and that this contradicts the idea of performing temple marriages for the dead.
- 1.22 Claim The author claims that Paul was not advocating the practice of baptism for the dead in 1 Corinthians 15:29, and that he was only emphasizing resurrection.
- 1.23 Claim The author claims that temples became unnecessary after Christ and that they were replaced by the atonement of Christ.
Response to claims made in "Chapter 9: By Whose Authority?"
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138
Claim
The author claims that "The priesthood of the Old Testament was brought to an end with the death of Christ.
Author's source(s)
Hebrews 7:11-12
Response
Some Christians claim that we do not need a mediating priesthood since it has been "fulfilled in Christ."
Summary: Some sectarian Protestants claim that Christians do not need a mediating priesthood since it has been "fulfilled in Christ."
138
Claim
The author states that "God set the minimum age of the Aaronic Priesthood at twenty-five."
Author's source(s)
Numbers 8:23-25
Response
- God also states in the same verse that the Aaronic Priestood is only given to the Levites. Numbers 8:24 states, "This is it that belongeth unto the Levites: from twenty and five years old and upward they shall go in to wait upon the service of the tabernacle of the congregation." Neither of these restrictions applies to the modern Church.
138-139
Claim
The author states that "the only Christian priesthood mentioned in the New Testament is the spiritual priesthood of every believer."
Author's source(s)
1 Peter 2:5-9
Response
Is there a "Priesthood of All Believers"?
Summary: Critics of Mormonism assert that there is no need for unbroken lines of priesthood authority since the Bible teaches that all believers hold the priesthood.
139
Claim
The author states that "Mormon high priests do not offer any sacrifices, so they are not following the Old Testament pattern."
Author's source(s)
Hebrews 5:1
Response
- Christ fulfilled the Mosaic law, and did away with the need to offer physical sacrifices. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not claim to be following the "Old Testament pattern" in all things. To do so would mean that we would have to ignore Christ's sacrifice in favor of the Law of Moses. Instead, we understand the Christ made the ultimate sacrifice.
139
Claim
The author states that "the New Testament mentions Jewish priests, but an office of priest is never mentioned in the Christian church."
Author's source(s)
None provided.
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
140
Claim
The author claims that 1 Corinthians 12:27-31 refers to "various ministries or gifts in the early church" and that it is "not listing specific offices of the priesthood."
Author's source(s)
1 Corinthians 12:28
Response
- We disagree. 1 Corintians 12:28 reads: "And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues."
140
Claim
The author states that "Paul lists apostles first and prophets second, indicating their order of importance." He states that in Mormonism that the apostles "serve under" the prophet, which he claims is a "reversal of the biblical order."
Author's source(s)
1 Corinthians 12:28
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
140
Claim
The author states that the only men who could be chosen as apostles were those who were an "eyewitness to the full ministry of Jesus, including his resurrection," and states that "the New Testament offers no evidence that others were later chosen to take the place of anyone else in the twelve."
Author's source(s)
None provided
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
140
Claim
The First Presidency plus the twelve apostles is equal to 15 apostles. The author states that this is not the same as Jesus' twelve apostles. The author states that that Mormonism has "too many apostles."
Author's source(s)
None provided.
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
141
Claim
The author claims that "bishop is not a separate office in the church but one of the elders."
Author's source(s)
1 Timothy 3:1; Titus 1:7
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
141
Claim
The author states that a deacon cannot be a 12-year-old boy, but must be mature men and "the husbands of one wife."
Author's source(s)
1 Timothy 3:8-12
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
141
Claim
The author states that "Teachers" must be "mature Christians" that are "able to teach others" rather than teenagers.
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
141
Claim
The author states the the LDS Church "does not have any pastors," and states that it is "inconsistent for Mormons to insist the words apostles and teachers are specific offices of the priesthood while denying that pastor or evangelist are priesthood offices."
Author's source(s)
Ephesians 4:11
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
141
Claim
The author states that "Evangelist" and "Patriarch" are not the same.
Author's source(s)
Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, 108, 170.
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
142-143
Claim
The author claims that the Bible justifies a paid ministry.
Author's source(s)
Numbers 35:7; Josh. 21:191; Timothy 5:17-18; 1 Corinthians 9:5-6; 1 Corinthians 9:11, 14; 2 Corinthians 11:8; Phil. 4:16, 18.
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
143
Claim
The author claims that "Many of the Mormons are not aware that their apostles receive a salary."
Author's source(s)
The Encyclopedia of Mormonism
Response
- After making a biblical case for having a paid ministry, the author is now complaining that top church leaders receive a living allowance.
144
Claim
The author complains that Church finances are not made public.
Author's source(s)
Not provided.
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
145
Claim
The author claims that baptism does not need to be done "by someone holding a special priesthood," and that it is simply "a symbol of one's identification with Christ and is not a necessary requirement for salvation."
Author's source(s)
Acts 16:30-34
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
145
Claim
The author states that "Joseph Smith supposedly restored the original temple ceremony of the Old Testament."
Author's source(s)
Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 780-1.
Response
FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources
147
Claim
The author states that Paul condemned "endless genealogies" and that this contradicts the idea of performing temple marriages for the dead.
Author's source(s)
Timothy 1:4; Titus 3:9
Response
Genealogy, condemnation of
Summary: Critics of Mormonism charge that the Bible condemns genealogy, and therefore the Latter-day Saint practice of compiling family histories is anti-Biblical, often citing 1 Timothy 1:4 or Titus 3:9.
147
Claim
The author claims that Paul was not advocating the practice of baptism for the dead in 1 Corinthians 15:29, and that he was only emphasizing resurrection.
Author's source(s)
1 Corinthains 15:29
Response
Baptism for the dead
Summary: What is baptism for the dead? Is there any evidence baptism for the dead is an authentic ancient Christian practice?
148
Claim
The author claims that temples became unnecessary after Christ and that they were replaced by the atonement of Christ.
Author's source(s)
Hebrews
Response
Was the temple obsolete after Christ?
Summary: Some Christians charge that Jesus' sacrifice and resurrection meant that the temple was to be removed from Christian worship—the Atonement made the temple superfluous. Therefore, they criticize the LDS for persisting with temple worship. It is also claimed that the veil in the temple becoming rent in twain after the crucifixion of Christ indicates that the temple was no longer to be used.