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|subject=Orson Hyde ordination blessing: altered in ''History of the Church''? | |subject=Orson Hyde ordination blessing: altered in ''History of the Church''? | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that the ordination blessing given to Orson Hyde is an example of false prophecy. They also claim that Hyde's blessing was altered in the ''History of the Church'' for propaganda reasons. |
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|link= Revelation_after_Joseph_Smith/Oliver Cowdery/Lyman Johnson to live until gathering accomplished | |link= Revelation_after_Joseph_Smith/Oliver Cowdery/Lyman Johnson to live until gathering accomplished | ||
|subject=Lyman Johnson to live until gathering accomplished | |subject=Lyman Johnson to live until gathering accomplished | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that the ordination blessing given to Lyman Johnson of the Twelve was a false prophecy: "...that he shall live until the gathering is accomplished." |
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|link= Revelation_after_Joseph_Smith/Oliver Cowdery/William Smith to remain on the earth until Christ comes | |link= Revelation_after_Joseph_Smith/Oliver Cowdery/William Smith to remain on the earth until Christ comes | ||
|subject=William Smith to remain on the earth until Christ comes | |subject=William Smith to remain on the earth until Christ comes | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that the ordination blessing given to William Smith, is an example of false prophecy. |
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|link=Mormonism and prophets/Revelation_after_Joseph_Smith/Martin Harris/Heber C. Kimball promise | |link=Mormonism and prophets/Revelation_after_Joseph_Smith/Martin Harris/Heber C. Kimball promise | ||
|subject=Heber C. Kimball - stand until the coming of the Lord | |subject=Heber C. Kimball - stand until the coming of the Lord | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that the ordination blessing given to Heber C. Kimball is an example of false prophecy. |
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|link= Revelation_after_Joseph_Smith/Joseph Smith Sr./Joseph Jr. to continue in the priest's office | |link= Revelation_after_Joseph_Smith/Joseph Smith Sr./Joseph Jr. to continue in the priest's office | ||
|subject=Joseph Smith, Jr., to continue in the priest's office until Christ comes | |subject=Joseph Smith, Jr., to continue in the priest's office until Christ comes | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that the father's blessing given to Joseph Smith, Jr., in which Joseph Sr. "declar[ed] that I should continue in the Priest's office until Christ comes," is an example of a false prophecy. |
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|link= Mormonism_and_science/Joseph Fielding Smith claimed that man would never walk on the Moon | |link= Mormonism_and_science/Joseph Fielding Smith claimed that man would never walk on the Moon | ||
|subject=Joseph Fielding Smith claimed that man would never walk on the Moon | |subject=Joseph Fielding Smith claimed that man would never walk on the Moon | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimedthat Joseph Fielding Smith taught or "prophesied" than man would never walk on the moon. Because of this, critics insist that Pres. Smith was a false prophet, or that nothing he taught can be replied upon. |
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|subject=Joseph F. Smith on revelation at Smoot hearings | |subject=Joseph F. Smith on revelation at Smoot hearings | ||
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Revision as of 21:20, 28 November 2013
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Contents
- 1 Mormonism and prophets
- 1.1 Joseph Smith
- 1.2 Joseph Smith
- 1.3 Post-Joseph Smith and non-Joseph Smith prophecies
- 1.4 Brigham Young's sermons are scripture?
- 1.5 Revelation after Joseph Smith
- 1.6 Orson Hyde ordination blessing: altered in History of the Church?
- 1.7 Lyman Johnson to live until gathering accomplished
- 1.8 William Smith to remain on the earth until Christ comes
- 1.9 Heber C. Kimball - stand until the coming of the Lord
- 1.10 Parley P. Pratt's reply to Sutherland
- 1.11 Joseph Smith, Jr., to continue in the priest's office until Christ comes
- 1.12 Joseph Fielding Smith claimed that man would never walk on the Moon
- 1.13 Brigham Young ordination blessing
- 1.14 Destruction of New York, Albany, and Boston
- 1.15 John Taylor 1886 revelation
- 1.16 Joseph F. Smith on revelation at Smoot hearings
- 1.17 Missouri myths?
- 1.18 Wilford Woodruff's 1889 revelation
- 1.19 Other related issues and claims
- 1.20 LDS prophets don't prophesy?
- 1.21 Prophetic inerrancy?
- 1.22 Mormonism and prophets
- 1.23 False revelation or private matters
- 1.24
- 1.25 Further reading and additional sources responding to these claims
Mormonism and prophets
Joseph Smith
Joseph Smith
Summary: Claims and questions about Joseph Smith, first prophet of the restorationPost-Joseph Smith and non-Joseph Smith prophecies
Brigham Young's sermons are scripture?
Summary: Did Brigham Young declare that his sermons were scripture?Revelation after Joseph Smith
Summary: If every President of the Church is a prophet, seer, and revelator, why have so few revelations after Joseph Smith been added to the Doctrine and Covenants? Revelations used to be printed in Church periodicals such as the Times and Seasons and the Evening and Morning Star. Why are revelations no longer published on an ongoing basis?- Must all apostles literally see Christ?—
Brief Summary: Must a man see Christ literally in order to be called as an apostle? (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗ - Post-Joseph Smith accounts of divine manifestations—
Brief Summary: This article contains accounts of divine manifestations to later 19th-century and modern (i.e., 20th and 21st century) apostles and prophets. (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗ - Prophecy fulfillment may extend into the Millennium—
Brief Summary: The fulfillment of prophecy does not end with death--blessings, promises, and fulfillment extend into the Millennial years of the Lord. (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗
- Must all apostles literally see Christ?—
Oliver Cowdery
Orson Hyde ordination blessing: altered in History of the Church?
Summary: It is claimed that the ordination blessing given to Orson Hyde is an example of false prophecy. They also claim that Hyde's blessing was altered in the History of the Church for propaganda reasons.Lyman Johnson to live until gathering accomplished
Summary: It is claimed that the ordination blessing given to Lyman Johnson of the Twelve was a false prophecy: "...that he shall live until the gathering is accomplished."William Smith to remain on the earth until Christ comes
Summary: It is claimed that the ordination blessing given to William Smith, is an example of false prophecy.Martin Harris
Heber C. Kimball - stand until the coming of the Lord
Summary: It is claimed that the ordination blessing given to Heber C. Kimball is an example of false prophecy.Parley P. Pratt
Parley P. Pratt's reply to Sutherland
Summary: Parley P. Pratt replied to an anti-Mormon author and made a prophecy about the world's end that did not come to pass. What can you tell me about this?Joseph Smith, Sr.
Joseph Smith, Jr., to continue in the priest's office until Christ comes
Summary: It is claimed that the father's blessing given to Joseph Smith, Jr., in which Joseph Sr. "declar[ed] that I should continue in the Priest's office until Christ comes," is an example of a false prophecy.Joseph Fielding Smith
Joseph Fielding Smith claimed that man would never walk on the Moon
Summary: It is claimedthat Joseph Fielding Smith taught or "prophesied" than man would never walk on the moon. Because of this, critics insist that Pres. Smith was a false prophet, or that nothing he taught can be replied upon.David Whitmer
Brigham Young ordination blessing
Summary: FAIR has found no criticism about the blessing given to Brigham Young upon his ordination as an apostle. His blessing is referenced by at least one other blessing, however, and so is included here for reference.Wilford Woodruff
Destruction of New York, Albany, and Boston
Summary: Wilford made a prophecy that included the destruction of New York by earthquake, Albany by fire, and Boston by flood. Brigham Young confirmed this as a true revelation. Since no earthquake, fire, or flood has yet destroyed them, does this make both Woodruff and Young guilty of false prophecy?Others
John Taylor 1886 revelation
Summary: Did John Taylor receive a revelation on September 27, 1886 that promised that “polygamy would never be abandoned?”Joseph F. Smith on revelation at Smoot hearings
Summary: It is claimed that at the Smoot hearings, Joseph F. Smith said that he never received revelation.Missouri myths?
Summary: Will members "walk back to Jackson County" before the second coming of Christ? Will the whole Church return to Jackson county before the second coming?- Walk back to Missouri?—
Brief Summary: Myth #1: We’re going to walk to Missouri to prepare for the Second Coming. (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗ - Return to Jackson County, Missouri?—
Brief Summary: Myth #2: The entire Church will be gathered to Missouri. (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗ - Heber C. Kimball–"dead yellow dog"—
Brief Summary: Myth #3: Destruction in Missouri. Did early leaders prophesy destruction against Jackson County before the second coming of Christ? (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗
- Walk back to Missouri?—
Wilford Woodruff's 1889 revelation
Summary: Did Wilford Woodruff receive a revelation on November 24, 1889 the said that the Church would prevail against the Government effort to seize the Church's assets?LDS prophets don't prophesy?
Summary: Some critics say that Latter-day Saint prophets aren't really "prophets" because they don't prophesy by foretelling unknown events. They commonly issue challenges such as, "If Gordon B. Hinckley is a prophet, tell me one event that he's prophesied." Do LDS prophets "prophesy"?Prophetic inerrancy?
Summary: Critics sometimes impose absolutist assumptions on the Church by holding inerrantist beliefs about scriptures or prophets, and assuming that the LDS have similar views. Critics therefore insist, based upon these assumptions, that any statement by any LDS Church leader represents LDS doctrine and is thus something that is secretly believed, or that should be believed, by Latter-day Saints.Mormonism and prophets
Summary: It is claimed that General Authorities are very silent about some issues, and that the Maxwell Institute takes their placeFalse revelation or private matters
Summary: Statements by leaders of the Church on the propriety of Church members teaching new doctrines, or publicizing personal revelations, dreams, visions, etc.