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|claim=The author claims, "FAIR and these unofficial apologists have done more to destroy my testimony than any anti-Mormon source ever could.  I found their version of Mormonism to be alien and foreign to the Chapel Mormonism that I grew up in attending Church, seminary, reading scriptures, General Conferences, EFY, mission, and BYU.  Their answers are not only contradictory to the scriptures and teachings I learned through correlated Mormonism…they’re truly bizarre."
 
|claim=The author claims, "FAIR and these unofficial apologists have done more to destroy my testimony than any anti-Mormon source ever could.  I found their version of Mormonism to be alien and foreign to the Chapel Mormonism that I grew up in attending Church, seminary, reading scriptures, General Conferences, EFY, mission, and BYU.  Their answers are not only contradictory to the scriptures and teachings I learned through correlated Mormonism…they’re truly bizarre."
 
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*The author had already reached his conclusions about the Church and lost his testimony ''before'' he went to FAIR. It is clear from his statements that he went to MormonThink and lds.org first. The following statements posted by the author on the ex-Mormon subreddit show his line of thinking. How did the author conclude that FAIR "did more to destroy his testimony than any anti-Mormon source ever could", when he claims that he visited FAIR ''after'' he wrote "A Letter to a CES Director"?
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*The author had already reached his conclusions about the Church and lost his testimony ''before'' he actually visited FAIR. It is clear from his statements that he went to MormonThink (which includes some quotes from FAIR) and lds.org first. How did the author conclude that FAIR "did more to destroy his testimony than any anti-Mormon source ever could", when he finally claims that he actually visited FAIR ''after'' he wrote "A Letter to a CES Director"?
 
*The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''October 2, 2012'''
 
*The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''October 2, 2012'''
 
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A few examples of the lies I've discarded through my repentance last night after your General Conference talk on Saturday morning:
 
A few examples of the lies I've discarded through my repentance last night after your General Conference talk on Saturday morning:
I no longer believe the lie that Joseph Smith sold his services looking for buried treasure with a peep stone that he used to look in his hat with. I've also discarded the lie that this "Ouija Board" Joseph used was the same method he used to translate the Book of Mormon. Respected LDS Historian and "Rough Stone Rolling" author Richard Bushman totally lied and deceived me.
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I no longer believe the lie that Joseph Smith sold his services looking for buried treasure with a peep stone that he used to look in his hat with. I've also discarded the lie that this "Ouija Board" Joseph used was the same method he used to translate the Book of Mormon. <span style="color:blue">Respected LDS Historian and "Rough Stone Rolling" author Richard Bushman totally lied and deceived me.</span>
 
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Elder Russell M. Nelson also endorsed this stone in hat method of translation of the Book of Mormon in his July 1993 Ensign "A Treasured Testament" talk. You might want to have a quick chat with him to get his talk corrected. Like, pronto.
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Elder Russell M. Nelson also endorsed this stone in hat method of translation of the Book of Mormon in his <span style="color:blue">July 1993 Ensign "A Treasured Testament" talk.</span> You might want to have a quick chat with him to get his talk corrected. Like, pronto.
 
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I no longer believe the lie that Joseph Smith gave several multiple conflicting accounts of the First Vision. Joseph Smith's own journals have obviously been tampered with.
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I no longer believe the lie that Joseph Smith gave several multiple conflicting accounts of the First Vision. <span style="color:blue">Joseph Smith's own journals</span> have obviously been tampered with.
 
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I no longer believe the lie that all DNA research to date shows the indigenous Americans are of Asian rather than Hebrew descent. The scientists are obviously all lying just to thwart the Mormons.
 
I no longer believe the lie that all DNA research to date shows the indigenous Americans are of Asian rather than Hebrew descent. The scientists are obviously all lying just to thwart the Mormons.
 
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I no longer believe the lie that the only surviving Egyptian papyrus that Joseph used for the Book of Abraham - which has the Facsimiles on it - does not match Joseph Smith's translation. Both LDS and non-LDS Egyptologists, including those at FARMS, are just testimony destroyers and deceivers.
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I no longer believe the lie that the only surviving Egyptian papyrus that Joseph used for the Book of Abraham - which has the Facsimiles on it - does not match Joseph Smith's translation. Both LDS and non-LDS Egyptologists, <span style="color:blue">including those at FARMS</span>, are just testimony destroyers and deceivers.
I no longer believe the lie that Joseph Smith married 14-year-old girls. LDS-owned FamilySearch.org listing Joseph's teen brides on his index totally needs to be corrected immediately.
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I no longer believe the lie that Joseph Smith married 14-year-old girls. LDS-owned <span style="color:blue">FamilySearch.org</span> listing Joseph's teen brides on his index totally needs to be corrected immediately.
 
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I no longer believe the lie that Joseph Smith married women already married to other living men at the same time. Respected LDS historian and scholar Richard Bushman lied about that. Time to remove his book "Rough Stone Rolling" from Deseret Book and the LDS Church History Museum store in Salt Lake. It's totally obvious to me now that the book is anti-Mormon.
 
I no longer believe the lie that Joseph Smith married women already married to other living men at the same time. Respected LDS historian and scholar Richard Bushman lied about that. Time to remove his book "Rough Stone Rolling" from Deseret Book and the LDS Church History Museum store in Salt Lake. It's totally obvious to me now that the book is anti-Mormon.
 
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I no longer believe the lie that Joseph Smith denied practicing polygamy when he, according to FAIR, FARMS, FamilySearch.org and LDS historians, really did practice polygamy. It's time to get rid of Volume 6 of the History of the Church that contains Joseph's denial of polygamy.
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I no longer believe the lie that Joseph Smith denied practicing polygamy when he, according to <span style="color:blue">FAIR, FARMS, FamilySearch.org and LDS historians, really did practice polygamy.</span> It's time to get rid of Volume 6 of the History of the Church that contains Joseph's denial of polygamy.
 
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I no longer believe the lie that Brigham Young taught that Adam was the only God and Father that the Latter-day Saints should be concerned with. By the way, that lie is in the Journal of Discourses...might want to delete it pronto.
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I no longer believe the lie that Brigham Young taught that Adam was the only God and Father that the Latter-day Saints should be concerned with. By the way, that lie is in the <span style="color:blue">Journal of Discourses</span>...might want to delete it pronto.
 
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You get the picture. I used to believe a lot of vicious lies, all of which are found in LDS or LDS-friendly sources I read about on the evil internetz. I guess these LDS and LDS-friendly sources are anti-Mormon too.
 
You get the picture. I used to believe a lot of vicious lies, all of which are found in LDS or LDS-friendly sources I read about on the evil internetz. I guess these LDS and LDS-friendly sources are anti-Mormon too.

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