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*The author had already reached his conclusions about the Church and lost his testimony ''before'' he went to FAIR. Based upon his statements, he went to MormonThink and lds.org first. The following statements posted by the author on the ex-Mormon subreddit show his line of thinking:
 
*The author had already reached his conclusions about the Church and lost his testimony ''before'' he went to FAIR. Based upon his statements, he went to MormonThink and lds.org first. The following statements posted by the author on the ex-Mormon subreddit show his line of thinking:
The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''October 11, 2012'''
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*The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''October 11, 2012'''
 
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Because the "Ouija Board" that he used to con people in his treasure hunting days is the same "Ouija Board" that he used to bring forth the Book of Mormon.
 
Because the "Ouija Board" that he used to con people in his treasure hunting days is the same "Ouija Board" that he used to bring forth the Book of Mormon.
 
Additionally, the church's spin on how the BOM came to be vs. how it actually happened are universes apart.
 
Additionally, the church's spin on how the BOM came to be vs. how it actually happened are universes apart.
 
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The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''November 11, 2012'''
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*The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''November 11, 2012'''
 
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A person has to do their own convincing. Your dad is doing the research and is asking questions. Let it take its course. Hopefully you pointed him to the right resources (MormonThink.com, etc.)
 
A person has to do their own convincing. Your dad is doing the research and is asking questions. Let it take its course. Hopefully you pointed him to the right resources (MormonThink.com, etc.)
 
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The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''November 15, 2012'''
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*The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''November 15, 2012'''
 
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I'm BIC, RM, Temple Married who left the church a few months ago (haven't resigned yet)....I have a TBM wife who still takes kids to church. I want to know the most effective way to save them from Mormonism so they won't have to go through what I went through.
 
I'm BIC, RM, Temple Married who left the church a few months ago (haven't resigned yet)....I have a TBM wife who still takes kids to church. I want to know the most effective way to save them from Mormonism so they won't have to go through what I went through.
 
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The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''February 19, 2013'''
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*The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''February 19, 2013'''
 
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Yeah, reading "The Mormon Murders" and other stuff about the Mark Hoffman disaster did really did some damage on how I look at Hinckley and the modern church. Specifically, the buying and hiding the embarrassing forgeries along with the lack of discernment.
 
Yeah, reading "The Mormon Murders" and other stuff about the Mark Hoffman disaster did really did some damage on how I look at Hinckley and the modern church. Specifically, the buying and hiding the embarrassing forgeries along with the lack of discernment.
 
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The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''February 22, 2013'''
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*The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''February 22, 2013'''
 
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http://www.lds.org/ensign/1993/07/a-treasured-testament?lang=eng He [Elder Russell M. Nelson] quotes David Whitmer's testimony of rock in the hat translation method.
 
http://www.lds.org/ensign/1993/07/a-treasured-testament?lang=eng He [Elder Russell M. Nelson] quotes David Whitmer's testimony of rock in the hat translation method.
 
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The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''March 26, 2013'''
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*The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''March 26, 2013'''
 
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Need Feedback! My TBM grandpa asked me to speak to his CES Director friend about my concerns. CES guy offered to talk to me. This PDF is a rough draft of what I'm sending over to both CES guy and grandpa. Need your feedback/advice, guys. Thanks!
 
Need Feedback! My TBM grandpa asked me to speak to his CES Director friend about my concerns. CES guy offered to talk to me. This PDF is a rough draft of what I'm sending over to both CES guy and grandpa. Need your feedback/advice, guys. Thanks!
 
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The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''April 30, 2013'''  
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*The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''April 30, 2013'''  
 
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I just visited FAIRlds.org, a pro-LDS apologetics site. its fascinating and terrifiying. FAIR confirms polyandry and the rock in the hat translation. Both of these issues usually cause severe cog dis in members. They did with me. I mean, once the rock in the hat story was confirmed, the whole thing collapsed because the rock in the hat ruins the official story of ancient prophets creating gold plates for Joseph and the testimony of the witnesses of the gold plates (since Joseph never used the plates anyway).
 
I just visited FAIRlds.org, a pro-LDS apologetics site. its fascinating and terrifiying. FAIR confirms polyandry and the rock in the hat translation. Both of these issues usually cause severe cog dis in members. They did with me. I mean, once the rock in the hat story was confirmed, the whole thing collapsed because the rock in the hat ruins the official story of ancient prophets creating gold plates for Joseph and the testimony of the witnesses of the gold plates (since Joseph never used the plates anyway).

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