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*What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith saw God and Jesus
 
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*What the history/facts tell us: First vision has multiple, and varied accounts (Pres. Hinckley)
 
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*Joseph ''did'' see God and Jesus.
 
*Joseph ''did'' see God and Jesus.
 
*Joseph's 1832 journal account of the First Vision is the only one that does not mention a second personage. The remainder of the "multiple, varied accounts" all claim that Joseph saw two personages.
 
*Joseph's 1832 journal account of the First Vision is the only one that does not mention a second personage. The remainder of the "multiple, varied accounts" all claim that Joseph saw two personages.

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A FAIR Analysis of:
"Why People Leave the LDS Church" (2008)
A work by author: John P. Dehlin
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"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
  • What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith was a pure, innocent boy.
  • What the history/facts tell us: Joseph used a "magical peep stone" to help people find buried treasure.



Things to think about

Quotes to think about
Joseph Smith—History 28, Pearl of Great Price

I was left to all kinds of temptations; and, mingling with all kinds of society, I frequently fell into many foolish errors, and displayed the weakness of youth, and the foibles of human nature; which, I am sorry to say, led me into divers temptations, offensive in the sight of God.


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"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
  • What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith turned down alcohol in surgery
  • What the history/facts tell us: Joseph drank beer and wine as an adult (his own journal)



Things to think about
  • It is true that the story of Joseph's leg operation should not be used as a lesson on the Word of Wisdom.
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"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
  • What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith saw God and Jesus
  • What the history/facts tell us: First vision has multiple, and varied accounts (Pres. Hinckley)



Things to think about
  • Joseph did see God and Jesus.
  • Joseph's 1832 journal account of the First Vision is the only one that does not mention a second personage. The remainder of the "multiple, varied accounts" all claim that Joseph saw two personages.
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"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
  • What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon using the "Urim and Thummim"
  • What the history/facts tell us:The same "peep stone" was used to translate the Book of Mormon—Stone in the hat, plates not in sight (Russell M. Nelson)



Things to think about
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"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith had one wife—Emma
  • What the history/facts tell us: Joseph had 30 wives, some of them married to other men, several teenagers (familysearch.org)



Things to think about
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"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
  • What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith was falsely accused and persecuted
  • What the history/facts tell us: [Joseph's use of a "magical peep stone"] was the reason for some of the early "trials" and court cases involving Joseph (Court records) Joseph denied polygamy publicly (Oaks)



Things to think about
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"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
  • What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith went to the jail in Carthage like a "Lamb to the Slaughter"
  • What the history/facts tell us: Exposure of polygamy and destruction of printing press led to martyrdom.



Things to think about
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"Why People Leave the LDS Church" by John Dehlin says...
  • What I learned growing up in the Church: Joseph Smith was 2nd to Jesus in Righteousness (no man has done more for the salvation of others except Jesus Christ)



Things to think about