Difference between revisions of "Book of Mormon geography/Models/Limited/Goble 2004"

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Edwin Goble was co-author of the book ''This Land: Zarahemla and the Nephite Nation'' in 2002.  Goble previously believed in the general US Heartland model, now popularized by Rodney Meldrum.
 
Edwin Goble was co-author of the book ''This Land: Zarahemla and the Nephite Nation'' in 2002.  Goble previously believed in the general US Heartland model, now popularized by Rodney Meldrum.
  
Realizing the significance of Joseph Smith's statement in the Levi Hancock Journal during Zion's Camp that the area was Desolation in the Land Northward, not the Land of Zarahemla in Joseph Smith's mind, Goble's faith was shaken in the US Heartland model.  Goble realized the implication of that statement from Joseph Smith.  It actually pushed the Narrow Neck of Land into Mesoamerica.  He ended up retracting the US Heartland model, because it relied on what he thought Joseph Smith believed.
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Understanding the significance of Joseph Smith's statement in the Levi Hancock Journal during Zion's Camp that the area was Desolation in the Land Northward, not the Land of Zarahemla in Joseph Smith's mind, Goble's faith was shaken in the US Heartland model.  Goble realized the implication of that statement from Joseph Smith, that it actually pushed the Narrow Neck of Land into Mesoamerica.  He ended up retracting the US Heartland model, because it entirely relied on what he previously thought Joseph Smith believed.
  
 
The new model relies on the Book of Mormon text.  Now he says it doesn't matter what Joseph Smith believed, only what the Book of Mormon text says.  The primary disagreement with other Mesoamerican models is that the Book of Mormon mentions an exceedingly great distance between the Land of Zarahemla and the Large Bodies of Water in the Land of Many Waters to the North.  Most Mesoamerican theorists believe this exceedingly great distance is much shorter of a distance.  Goble interprets it the traditional way.
 
The new model relies on the Book of Mormon text.  Now he says it doesn't matter what Joseph Smith believed, only what the Book of Mormon text says.  The primary disagreement with other Mesoamerican models is that the Book of Mormon mentions an exceedingly great distance between the Land of Zarahemla and the Large Bodies of Water in the Land of Many Waters to the North.  Most Mesoamerican theorists believe this exceedingly great distance is much shorter of a distance.  Goble interprets it the traditional way.

Revision as of 23:37, 19 August 2010

Model Name Date Proposed Scope Narrow Neck Land North Land South Cumorah River Sidon Nephi's Landing Religion Type of model

Model name: Goble 2004

Date proposed: 2004
Scope: LGT/HGT
Narrow neck: Tehuantepec
Land north: From Tehuantepec Northward
Land south: Mesoamerica/Preclassic Maya
Cumorah: New York
Sidon: Undetermined
Landing: Undetermined
Religion: LDS
Type: External

Edwin Goble was co-author of the book This Land: Zarahemla and the Nephite Nation in 2002. Goble previously believed in the general US Heartland model, now popularized by Rodney Meldrum.

Understanding the significance of Joseph Smith's statement in the Levi Hancock Journal during Zion's Camp that the area was Desolation in the Land Northward, not the Land of Zarahemla in Joseph Smith's mind, Goble's faith was shaken in the US Heartland model. Goble realized the implication of that statement from Joseph Smith, that it actually pushed the Narrow Neck of Land into Mesoamerica. He ended up retracting the US Heartland model, because it entirely relied on what he previously thought Joseph Smith believed.

The new model relies on the Book of Mormon text. Now he says it doesn't matter what Joseph Smith believed, only what the Book of Mormon text says. The primary disagreement with other Mesoamerican models is that the Book of Mormon mentions an exceedingly great distance between the Land of Zarahemla and the Large Bodies of Water in the Land of Many Waters to the North. Most Mesoamerican theorists believe this exceedingly great distance is much shorter of a distance. Goble interprets it the traditional way.

Therefore, in this model, it is limited in scope in the sense that most of the Book of Mormon History takes place in Mesoamerica, and it is larger in scope only later in their history that the Book of Mormon peoples spread outward to the North. Therefore, in this model, there are two heartlands, one in the Land Southward comprising the heartland of the Preclassic Maya, and one in the Land Northward, comprising the heartland of the Hopewell/Adena. The model does not attempt to narrow down any specifics except for the general areas, a Narrow Neck of Land at Tehuantepec, and the traditional Cumorah in New York.

(See unpublished book manuscript Resurrecting Cumorah)