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A FAIR Analysis of:
Watchman Fellowship

Index of Claims in "Basics of Mormonism: Falling Upward"

Claim
The authors ask, if "death is the wages of sin," and the fall of Adam and Eve "was not actually sin, then why did it introduce death into the world." .

Author's source(s)

Response
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Claim
How did the transgression of Adam and Eve "intorduce sin into the world?" How were mortality and a sinful world the result of a transgression rather than a sin?

Author's source(s)

Response
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Claim
The authors claim that if the transgression of Adam and Eve were "such a blessing," then they would have not felt "guilty and afraid" when God approached them in the Garden of Eden after they committed their transgression.

Author's source(s)

  • Author's speculation

Response
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Claim
If the transgression of Adam and Eve resulted in physical and spiritual death, then why are we only subject to spiritual death for eternity if we do not repent? Wouldn't our sins, since we have a knowledge of good and evil and Adam did not, be more serious than his? The authors ask why we "incur a lesser penalty in eternity than Adam's (non)-sin?"

Author's source(s)

Response

  • We do not suffer eternal physical death for our sins and neither does Adam, for the same reason—the Atonement of Jesus Christ:
Adam spake unto the Lord, and said: Why is it that men must repent and be baptized in water? And the Lord said unto Adam: Behold I have forgiven thee thy transgression in the Garden of Eden. Hence came the saying abroad among the people, that the Son of God hath atoned for original guilt, wherein the sins of the parents cannot be answered upon the heads of the children, for they are whole from the foundation of the world. (Moses 6꞉53-54)


Claim
Why were Adam and Eve "not counted transgressors before eating the forbidden fruit, for failing to multiply?" The authors ask why this did not cause the Fall to happen.

Author's source(s)

  • This question could be asked with equal cogency of a creedal Christian.
  • In the LDS view, Adam and Eve would not be condemned for something they were unable to do.

Response
 FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources