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===Chapter 12: Master of Languages===
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===Claims made in "Chapter 12: Master of Languages"===
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====170====
 
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||Joseph did not originally intend to translate the papyri "by inspiration as in the past," and instead attempted to formulate an Egyptian alphabet and grammar.
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*[[Kirtland Egyptian Papers]]
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*Joseph did not originally intend to translate the papyri "by inspiration as in the past," and instead attempted to formulate an Egyptian alphabet and grammar.
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*[[Book of Abraham/Joseph Smith Papyri/Kirtland Egyptian Papers]]
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||Joseph picked up the idea that there were plural gods when he learned in Hebrew class that Elohim was plural.
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*[[Polytheism]]
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*Joseph picked up the idea that there were plural gods when he learned in Hebrew class that Elohim was plural.
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*[[Nature of God/Polytheism]]
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*Author's opinion.
 
*Author's opinion.
 
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
 
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
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====171====
 
====171====
||Joseph developed the concept in the Book of Abraham that the earth was organized out of existing matter from Thomas Dick's Philosophy of a Future State.
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{{IndexClaim
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*[[Was Joseph Smith's theology influenced by the writings of Thomas Dick?]]
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*Joseph developed the concept in the Book of Abraham that the earth was organized out of existing matter from Thomas Dick's Philosophy of a Future State.
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*[[Book of Abraham/Plagiarism accusations/Thomas Dick]]
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*Author's opinion.
 
*Author's opinion.
 
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
 
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
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====171====
 
====171====
||Joseph developed the idea that matter was "eternal and indestructible" from Thomas Dick's work.
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{{IndexClaim
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*[[Was Joseph Smith's theology influenced by the writings of Thomas Dick?]]
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*Joseph developed the idea that matter was "eternal and indestructible" from Thomas Dick's work.
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*[[Book of Abraham/Plagiarism accusations/Thomas Dick]]
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|authorsources=
 
*Author's opinion.
 
*Author's opinion.
 
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
 
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
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====172====
 
====172====
||Joseph's concept of Kolob being "near the throne of God" and its control of the reckoning of time came from Thomas Dick.
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{{IndexClaim
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*[[Was Joseph Smith's theology influenced by the writings of Thomas Dick?]]
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*Joseph's concept of Kolob being "near the throne of God" and its control of the reckoning of time came from Thomas Dick.
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|response=
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*[[Book of Abraham/Plagiarism accusations/Thomas Dick]]
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|authorsources=
 
*Author's opinion.
 
*Author's opinion.
 
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
 
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
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====173====
 
====173====
||Joseph wrote the Book of Abraham in order to justify denying the priesthood to Blacks.
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*Joseph wrote the Book of Abraham in order to justify denying the priesthood to Blacks.
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*[[Blacks and the priesthood/Origin of the priesthood ban|Blacks and the priesthood—Origin of the priesthood ban]]
 
*[[Blacks and the priesthood/Origin of the priesthood ban|Blacks and the priesthood—Origin of the priesthood ban]]
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*Author's opinion.
 
*Author's opinion.
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====173====
 
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||Joseph criticized the abolitionist movement.
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*Joseph criticized the abolitionist movement.
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||Joseph taught that "one third of the spirits had been neutral" in Heaven.
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*Joseph taught that "one third of the spirits had been neutral" in Heaven.
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*[[Blacks and the priesthood/Pre-existence]]
 
*[[Blacks and the priesthood/Pre-existence]]
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*Orson Hyde, "Speech before the High Priests," Nauvoo, April 27, 1845 printed as a pamphlet by the ''Millennial Star'' office, July 1845, p. 27.
 
*Orson Hyde, "Speech before the High Priests," Nauvoo, April 27, 1845 printed as a pamphlet by the ''Millennial Star'' office, July 1845, p. 27.
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||Joseph taught that his family was directly descended from Ephraim.
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*Joseph taught that his family was directly descended from Ephraim.
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*''History of the Church'', Vol. III, p. 380.
 
*''History of the Church'', Vol. III, p. 380.
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||The Book of Abraham facsimiles are ordinary funeral documents.
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*[[Book of Abraham papyri]]
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*The Book of Abraham facsimiles are ordinary funeral documents.
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*[[Book of Abraham/Joseph Smith Papyri]]
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||It was reported that some of the men were drunk during the dedication of the Kirtland Temple.
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*[[Reports of Drunken Behavior at the Kirtland Temple Dedication]]
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*It was reported that some of the men were drunk during the dedication of the Kirtland Temple.
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*[[Temples/Reports of Drunken Behavior at the Kirtland Temple Dedication]]
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Revision as of 22:09, 26 January 2010


A FAIR Analysis of:
Criticism of Mormonism/Books
A work by author: Fawn Brodie

Claims made in "Chapter 12: Master of Languages"

170

Claim
  • Joseph did not originally intend to translate the papyri "by inspiration as in the past," and instead attempted to formulate an Egyptian alphabet and grammar.

Response

171

Claim
  • Joseph picked up the idea that there were plural gods when he learned in Hebrew class that Elohim was plural.

Author's source(s)
  • Author's opinion.
  • Thomas Dick, Philosophy of a Future State.
Response

171

Claim
  • Joseph developed the concept in the Book of Abraham that the earth was organized out of existing matter from Thomas Dick's Philosophy of a Future State.

Author's source(s)
  • Author's opinion.
  • Thomas Dick, Philosophy of a Future State.
Response

171

Claim
  • Joseph developed the idea that matter was "eternal and indestructible" from Thomas Dick's work.

Author's source(s)
  • Author's opinion.
  • Thomas Dick, Philosophy of a Future State.
Response

172

Claim
  • Joseph's concept of Kolob being "near the throne of God" and its control of the reckoning of time came from Thomas Dick.

Author's source(s)
  • Author's opinion.
  • Thomas Dick, Philosophy of a Future State.
Response

173

Claim
  • Joseph wrote the Book of Abraham in order to justify denying the priesthood to Blacks.

Author's source(s)
  • Author's opinion.
Response

173

Claim
  • Joseph criticized the abolitionist movement.

Response
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174

Claim
  • Joseph taught that "one third of the spirits had been neutral" in Heaven.

Author's source(s)
  • Orson Hyde, "Speech before the High Priests," Nauvoo, April 27, 1845 printed as a pamphlet by the Millennial Star office, July 1845, p. 27.
Response

174

Claim
  • Joseph taught that his family was directly descended from Ephraim.

Author's source(s)
  • History of the Church, Vol. III, p. 380.
Response
 FAIR WIKI EDITORS: Check sources

175

Claim
  • The Book of Abraham facsimiles are ordinary funeral documents.

Response

179

Claim
  • It was reported that some of the men were drunk during the dedication of the Kirtland Temple.

Response