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===Claims made in Chapter 20: Blood Atonement=== | ===Claims made in Chapter 20: Blood Atonement=== | ||
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*Reed Peck said that Joseph Smith told him of a revelation in which Apostle Peter stated that he had hung Judas. | *Reed Peck said that Joseph Smith told him of a revelation in which Apostle Peter stated that he had hung Judas. | ||
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*{{SourceDistortion}} | *{{SourceDistortion}} | ||
* This claim is repeated in ''One Nation Under Gods'': [[One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Apostles killed Judas|ONUG - apostles kill Judas?]] | * This claim is repeated in ''One Nation Under Gods'': [[One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Apostles killed Judas|ONUG - apostles kill Judas?]] | ||
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*The Reed Peck Manuscript, p.13 | *The Reed Peck Manuscript, p.13 | ||
*{{JDfairwiki|author=Heber C. Kimball|disc=19|vol=6|start=125|end=126}} | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Heber C. Kimball|disc=19|vol=6|start=125|end=126}} | ||
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| − | Brigham Young advocated blood atonement. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Brigham Young advocated blood atonement. |
| − | *[[Blood atonement]] | + | |response= |
| − | | | + | *[[Church doctrines/Repudiated/Blood atonement]] |
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| − | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|vol=4|disc=10|start=53|end=54}} | |
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====491-492==== | ====491-492==== | ||
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| − | Jedediah Grant advocated blood atonement. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Jedediah Grant advocated blood atonement. |
| − | *[[Blood atonement]] | + | |response= |
| − | | | + | *[[Church doctrines/Repudiated/Blood atonement]] |
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| − | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Jedediah Grant|vol=4|disc=9|start=49|end=50}} {{attn}} | |
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====493==== | ====493==== | ||
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| − | Murder was worthy of death. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Murder was worthy of death. |
| − | *[[Blood atonement]] | + | |response= |
| − | | | + | *[[Church doctrines/Repudiated/Blood atonement]] |
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*''History of the Church'' 5:296 | *''History of the Church'' 5:296 | ||
*''Doctrines of Salvation'' 1:136 | *''Doctrines of Salvation'' 1:136 | ||
| − | *''Mormon Doctrine'', 1958, p.314 | + | *''Mormon Doctrine'', 1958, p.314 |
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====493==== | ====493==== | ||
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| − | Adultery and immorality were worthy of death. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Adultery and immorality were worthy of death. |
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*[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
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| − | * | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Heber C. Kimball|vol=7|disc=3|start=20}} |
| − | * | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Heber C. Kimball|vol=6|disc=4|start=38}} |
| − | * | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Heber C. Kimball|vol=7|disc=3|start=19}} |
| − | * | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=George A. Smith|vol=1|disc=17|start=97}} |
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====493==== | ====493==== | ||
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| − | Brigham Young said that he would put a javelin through the heart of an adulterous woman. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Brigham Young said that he would put a javelin through the heart of an adulterous woman. |
| − | *[[Blood atonement]] | + | |response= |
| − | | | + | *[[Church doctrines/Repudiated/Blood atonement]] |
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| − | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|vol=3|disc=35|start=247 | |
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====496==== | ====496==== | ||
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| − | Stealing was worthy of death. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Stealing was worthy of death. |
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*[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
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*Times and Seasons, vol. 4, pp.183-84 | *Times and Seasons, vol. 4, pp.183-84 | ||
*History of the Church 7:597 | *History of the Church 7:597 | ||
| − | * | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|vol=1|disc=19|start=108|end=109}} |
| − | * | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Orson Hyde|vol=1|disc=11|start=73}} |
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====496==== | ====496==== | ||
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| − | Using the name of the Lord in vain was worthy of death. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Using the name of the Lord in vain was worthy of death. |
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*[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
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*Journal of Hosea Stout, vol. 2, p.71; p.56 of the typed copy at Utah State Historical Society | *Journal of Hosea Stout, vol. 2, p.71; p.56 of the typed copy at Utah State Historical Society | ||
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====496==== | ====496==== | ||
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| − | Not receiving the Gospel was worthy of death. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Not receiving the Gospel was worthy of death. |
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*[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
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| − | * | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|vol=3|disc=30|start=226}} |
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====496==== | ====496==== | ||
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| − | Marrying an African was worthy of death. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Marrying an African was worthy of death. |
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| − | | | + | *[[Brigham Young/Race mixing punishable by death|Race mixing "worthy of death"?]] |
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| + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|vol=10|disc=25|start=110}} | ||
*Wilford Woodruff's Journal, January 16,1852 | *Wilford Woodruff's Journal, January 16,1852 | ||
*''Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought'', Spring 1973, p.26 | *''Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought'', Spring 1973, p.26 | ||
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====498==== | ====498==== | ||
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| − | Breaking covenants was worthy of death. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Breaking covenants was worthy of death. |
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*[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
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| − | * | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Jedediah Grant|vol=4|disc=9|start=49|end=51}} {{attn}} |
*Deseret News, July 27, 1854 | *Deseret News, July 27, 1854 | ||
| − | * | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Heber C. Kimball|vol=4|disc=70|start=375}} |
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| − | Apostasy was worthy of death. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Apostasy was worthy of death. |
| − | *[[Blood atonement]] | + | |response= |
| − | | | + | *[[Church doctrines/Repudiated/Blood atonement]] |
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| − | * | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|vol=1|disc=14|start=83}} |
| − | * | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|vol=4|disc=42|start=219|end=220}} |
| − | + | *{{JDfairwiki|author=Heber C. Kimball|vol=6|disc=4|start=34|end=35}} | |
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| − | Lying was worthy of death. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Lying was worthy of death. |
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*[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
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*"Manuscript History of Brigham Young," December 20, 1846 | *"Manuscript History of Brigham Young," December 20, 1846 | ||
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====500==== | ====500==== | ||
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| − | Counterfeiting was worthy of death. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Counterfeiting was worthy of death. |
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*[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
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*"Manuscript History of Brigham Young," February 24,1847 | *"Manuscript History of Brigham Young," February 24,1847 | ||
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====500==== | ====500==== | ||
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| − | Condemning Joseph Smith was worthy of death. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Condemning Joseph Smith was worthy of death. |
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*[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | *[[19th century crimes alleged to be "worthy of death"]] | ||
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*Quest for Empire, p.127 | *Quest for Empire, p.127 | ||
*Daily journal of Abraham H. Cannon,"" December 6, 1889, pp.205-6 | *Daily journal of Abraham H. Cannon,"" December 6, 1889, pp.205-6 | ||
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| − | Blood atonement was "put into practice" in Utah. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Blood atonement was "put into practice" in Utah. |
| − | *[[Blood atonement]] | + | |response= |
| − | | | + | *[[Church doctrines/Repudiated/Blood atonement]] |
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*Confessions of John D. Lee, 1880, pp.282-83 | *Confessions of John D. Lee, 1880, pp.282-83 | ||
*Utah Historical Quarterly, January 1958, p.62, note 39 | *Utah Historical Quarterly, January 1958, p.62, note 39 | ||
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====501==== | ====501==== | ||
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| − | Modern church leaders have confirmed the principle but denied the practice of blood atonement. | + | |claims= |
| − | | | + | *Modern church leaders have confirmed the principle but denied the practice of blood atonement. |
| − | *[[Blood atonement]] | + | |response= |
| − | | | + | *[[Church doctrines/Repudiated/Blood atonement]] |
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*Mormon Doctrine, 1958, p.87 | *Mormon Doctrine, 1958, p.87 | ||
*Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp.133-36 | *Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp.133-36 | ||
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Claims made in Chapter 20: Blood Atonement
490
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Response
- Misrepresentation of source
- This claim is repeated in One Nation Under Gods: ONUG - apostles kill Judas?
490-491
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 4:53-54.
Response
491-492
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Jedediah Grant, Journal of Discourses 4:49-50. [ATTENTION!]
Response
493
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- History of the Church 5:296
- Doctrines of Salvation 1:136
- Mormon Doctrine, 1958, p.314
Response
493
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 7:20.
- Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 6:38.
- Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 7:19.
- George A. Smith, Journal of Discourses 1:97.
Response
493
{{IndexClaim |claims=
- Brigham Young said that he would put a javelin through the heart of an adulterous woman.
|response=
|authorsources=
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 3:247.
496
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Times and Seasons, vol. 4, pp.183-84
- History of the Church 7:597
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:108-109.
- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 1:73.
Response
496
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Journal of Hosea Stout, vol. 2, p.71; p.56 of the typed copy at Utah State Historical Society
Response
496
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 3:226.
Response
496
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 10:110.
- Wilford Woodruff's Journal, January 16,1852
- Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Spring 1973, p.26
Response
498
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Jedediah Grant, Journal of Discourses 4:49-51. [ATTENTION!]
- Deseret News, July 27, 1854
- Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:375.
Response
498-499
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:83.
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 4:219-220.
- Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 6:34-35.
Response
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{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- "Manuscript History of Brigham Young," December 20, 1846
Response
500
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{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- "Manuscript History of Brigham Young," February 24,1847
Response
500
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Quest for Empire, p.127
- Daily journal of Abraham H. Cannon,"" December 6, 1889, pp.205-6
Response
501-503
Claim
{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Confessions of John D. Lee, 1880, pp.282-83
- Utah Historical Quarterly, January 1958, p.62, note 39
Response
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{{{claim}}}
Author's source(s)
- Mormon Doctrine, 1958, p.87
- Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp.133-36
Response