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===Claims made in Chapter 18: Word of Wisdom=== | ===Claims made in Chapter 18: Word of Wisdom=== | ||
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− | |468||The admonition not to eat meat is mostly ignored by the Church.||[[Word of Wisdom/Eat meat sparingly]] {{nw}}|| | + | | |
+ | ====468==== | ||
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+ | The admonition not to eat meat is mostly ignored by the Church. | ||
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+ | [[Word of Wisdom/Eat meat sparingly]] {{nw}} | ||
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*John J. Stewart, ''Joseph Smith the Mormon Prophet'', p.90 | *John J. Stewart, ''Joseph Smith the Mormon Prophet'', p.90 | ||
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− | |469||Joseph Fielding Smith said that drinking tea can bar a person from the Celestial Kingdom.||[[Word of Wisdom/Tea]] {{nw}}|| | + | | |
+ | ====469==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Joseph Fielding Smith said that drinking tea can bar a person from the Celestial Kingdom. | ||
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+ | [[Word of Wisdom/Tea]] {{nw}} | ||
+ | || | ||
*Doctrines of Salvation 2:16 | *Doctrines of Salvation 2:16 | ||
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− | |469-470||Church members feel that Joseph "carefully observed" the Word of Wisdom. Joseph wouldn't be able to get a temple recommend today.|| | + | | |
− | + | ====469-470==== | |
− | [[Word of Wisdom]]|| | + | || |
+ | Church members feel that Joseph "carefully observed" the Word of Wisdom. Joseph wouldn't be able to get a temple recommend today. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | * {{Presentism}}: the requirements of the Word of Wisdom were different in Joseph's day than in the 20th century. The authors hope their audience will be shocked by this, and do nothing to explain the differences in application of the Word of Wisdom. | ||
+ | [[Word of Wisdom]] | ||
+ | || | ||
*John J. Stewart, ''Joseph Smith the Mormon Prophet'', p.90 | *John J. Stewart, ''Joseph Smith the Mormon Prophet'', p.90 | ||
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− | |470||Joseph sometimes drank wine.||[[Word of Wisdom]]|| | + | | |
− | *''History of the Church'' 2:369 | + | ====470==== |
+ | || | ||
+ | Joseph sometimes drank wine. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | * {{Presentism}}: in Joseph's day, wine was not forbidden by the Word of Wisdom, especially if used in a medicinal sense. | ||
+ | [[Word of Wisdom]] | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | *''History of the Church'' 2:369 {{nc}} | ||
*''History of the Church'' 6:616" | *''History of the Church'' 6:616" | ||
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− | |470||Joseph smoked a cigar.||[[Word of Wisdom]]|| | + | |470 |
+ | || | ||
+ | Joseph smoked a cigar. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | * [[Word of Wisdom]] | ||
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*"Joseph Smith As An Administrator," M.A. thesis, Brigham Young University, May 1969, p.161 | *"Joseph Smith As An Administrator," M.A. thesis, Brigham Young University, May 1969, p.161 | ||
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− | |471||The words "pipe and some tobacco" were replaced by the word "medicine" in History of the Church. References to buying whisky and beer | + | | |
− | + | 471 | |
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+ | The words "pipe and some tobacco" were replaced by the word "medicine" in History of the Church. References to buying whisky {{cs}} and beer were removed. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | * {{Presentism}}: strange is it is for modern readers, people in Joseph Smith's day sometimes regarded tobacco as a medicinal substance. Beer was not forbidden by the 19th century application of the Word of Wisdom, and whiskey could also be used medicinally. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | * {{attn}} | ||
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− | |471||Joseph wrote in his diary that he had tea with breakfast. Joseph prophesied that he would drink wine with Orson Hyde in the east.|| || | + | | |
+ | ====471==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Joseph wrote in his diary that he had tea with breakfast. Joseph prophesied that he would drink wine with Orson Hyde in the east. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | * {{Presentism}}: wine was not forbidden by the Word of Wisdom in Joseph's day. {{nc}} | ||
+ | || | ||
*Joseph Smith Diary, March 11, 1843 | *Joseph Smith Diary, March 11, 1843 | ||
*Joseph Smith Diary, January 20, 1843" | *Joseph Smith Diary, January 20, 1843" | ||
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− | |472||George A. Smith reported that some church members left the church after finding that their leaders drank tea and coffee.|| || | + | | |
+ | ====472==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | George A. Smith reported that some church members left the church after finding that their leaders drank tea and coffee. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | * | ||
+ | || | ||
*''Journal of Discourses'' 2:214 | *''Journal of Discourses'' 2:214 | ||
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− | |472||Almon W. Babbitt was brought to church trial for breaking the Word of Wisdom, but he said that he was following Joseph's example.|| || | + | | |
+ | ====472==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Almon W. Babbitt was brought to church trial for breaking the Word of Wisdom, but he said that he was following Joseph's example. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | * | ||
+ | || | ||
*''History of the Church'' 2:252 | *''History of the Church'' 2:252 | ||
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− | |472-473||Joseph Smith sold liquor in Nauvoo.|| || | + | | |
+ | ====472-473==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Joseph Smith sold liquor in Nauvoo. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | |||
+ | || | ||
*''History of the Church'' 6:111 | *''History of the Church'' 6:111 | ||
*''The Saints' Herald'', January 22, 1935, p.110 | *''The Saints' Herald'', January 22, 1935, p.110 | ||
*"Journal of Oliver B. Huntington," typed copy at Utah State Historical Society, vol. 2, p.166" | *"Journal of Oliver B. Huntington," typed copy at Utah State Historical Society, vol. 2, p.166" | ||
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− | |474||Brigham Young broke the Word of Wisdom by taking "snuff and tea." || || | + | | |
+ | ====474==== | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | Brigham Young broke the Word of Wisdom by taking "snuff and tea." || || | ||
*''On The Mormon Frontier'', vol. 1, p.75 | *''On The Mormon Frontier'', vol. 1, p.75 | ||
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− | + | ====474==== | |
+ | || | ||
+ | Brigham Young chewed tobacco for many years.|| | ||
+ | * [[Brigham Young and tobacco]]{{nw}} | ||
+ | || | ||
*''Journal of Discourses'', vol. 12, p.404 (incorrect page - should be page 29) | *''Journal of Discourses'', vol. 12, p.404 (incorrect page - should be page 29) | ||
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− | |474||Brigham Young told Church members to "make beer as a drink" and sponsored a bar in Salt Lake City.|| || | + | | |
+ | ====474====|| | ||
+ | Brigham Young told Church members to "make beer as a drink" and sponsored a bar in Salt Lake City. | ||
+ | || | ||
+ | * {{Presentism}}: beer was not forbidden under the 19th century application of the Word of Wisdom; it was a "mild drink." | ||
+ | || | ||
*John D. Lee, p. 116 | *John D. Lee, p. 116 | ||
*Herbert Howe Bancroft, History of Utah, p.540, footnote 44 | *Herbert Howe Bancroft, History of Utah, p.540, footnote 44 | ||
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− | |475||Brigham built a whisky distillery.||[[Brigham Young's whisky distillery]]{{nw}}|| | + | | |
+ | ====475==== | ||
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+ | Brigham built a whisky distillery.|| | ||
+ | *[[Brigham Young's whisky distillery]]{{nw}} | ||
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*''Journal of Discourses'', 10:206 | *''Journal of Discourses'', 10:206 | ||
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Chapter 17 | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: Jerald and Sandra Tanner
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Chapter 19 |
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468 |
The admonition not to eat meat is mostly ignored by the Church. |
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469 |
Joseph Fielding Smith said that drinking tea can bar a person from the Celestial Kingdom. |
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469-470 |
Church members feel that Joseph "carefully observed" the Word of Wisdom. Joseph wouldn't be able to get a temple recommend today. |
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470 |
Joseph sometimes drank wine. |
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470 |
Joseph smoked a cigar. |
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