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The following table compares three individuals: two are imaginary, and one is real. You may draw your own conclusions.
 
The following table compares three individuals: two are imaginary, and one is real. You may draw your own conclusions.
 
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*As an amateur, plays the viola and recorder. {{ref|foxe.viola}}
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*Among other things, I'm a serious amateur violist; and I also play the recorder on occasion.  
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[[User:John Foxe|John Foxe]] 13:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bob_Jones_University&diff=prev&oldid=55808996}}
 
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*Teaches history at Bob Jones University. {{ref|foxe.history}}
 
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*Defines the word "Historiography." {{ref|foxe.historiography}}
 
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*Submitted article to ''BYU Studies'', which was rejected and then published in another journal. {{ref|foxe.published}}
 
*Submitted article to ''BYU Studies'', which was rejected and then published in another journal. {{ref|foxe.published}}
 
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*Speaks French {{ref|foxe.french}}
 
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*Either graduated from or has family members working at BJU. {{ref|foxe.bjugrad}}
 
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*BJU faculty member. {{ref|hi540.bjufaculty}}
 
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*Graduated from the University of Virginia. {{ref|hi540.virginia}}
 
*Graduated from the University of Virginia. {{ref|hi540.virginia}}
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*Prior to marriage he and his wife attended different churches. {{ref|foxe.wifechurch}}
 
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*Parents immigrated from Europe. {{ref|foxe.immigrant}}
 
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*Editor “Hi540” uploaded a picture of Lake Santeetlah to Wikimedia Commons on May 18, 2008. The source is “own work” and the copyright holder is John Matzko. {{link|url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LakeSanteetlah(lake).jpg}}
 
*Editor “Hi540” uploaded a picture of Lake Santeetlah to Wikimedia Commons on May 18, 2008. The source is “own work” and the copyright holder is John Matzko. {{link|url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LakeSanteetlah(lake).jpg}}
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*Has an "unusual" last name. {{ref|foxe.surname}}
 
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*"Furthermore, we need to call a spade a spade….John Foxe 12:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:First_Vision/Archive_7#Third_paragraph_of_lede}}
 
*"Furthermore, we need to call a spade a spade….John Foxe 12:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:First_Vision/Archive_7#Third_paragraph_of_lede}}
 
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*Response to Previous Art Gallery post. Do some research about the BJU M&G; not only can I personally attest to the validity of that statement (having toured the Gallery on an occasion), but there is considerable respect online among art historians. There are paintings by very famous masters such as Veronese, Titian, Tintoretto, Benjamin West, and many more. I would not say that such a statement is "blatantly false.” John Foxe 13:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bob_Jones_University&diff=prev&oldid=49914298#Art_Gallery}}
 
*Response to Previous Art Gallery post. Do some research about the BJU M&G; not only can I personally attest to the validity of that statement (having toured the Gallery on an occasion), but there is considerable respect online among art historians. There are paintings by very famous masters such as Veronese, Titian, Tintoretto, Benjamin West, and many more. I would not say that such a statement is "blatantly false.” John Foxe 13:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bob_Jones_University&diff=prev&oldid=49914298#Art_Gallery}}
 
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*"John Foxe" welcomed John Matzko's son Austin to Wikpedia. (11 March 2009) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Austin_Matzko&diff=prev&oldid=276584777}}
 
*"John Foxe" welcomed John Matzko's son Austin to Wikpedia. (11 March 2009) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Austin_Matzko&diff=prev&oldid=276584777}}
 
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*I once heard Richard Bushman discuss the BoA and eventually turned my eyes away from his because I was embarrassed for him.--John Foxe 22:17, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 
*I once heard Richard Bushman discuss the BoA and eventually turned my eyes away from his because I was embarrassed for him.--John Foxe 22:17, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 
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*The article thanks “participants in the 2005 NEH Seminar on ‘Joseph Smith
 
*The article thanks “participants in the 2005 NEH Seminar on ‘Joseph Smith
 
and the Origins of Mormonism’ for criticism of an earlier draft. Especially valuable were the comments of Richard Bushman, seminar co-director, and Mark Sidwell, the author’s colleague at BJU.
 
and the Origins of Mormonism’ for criticism of an earlier draft. Especially valuable were the comments of Richard Bushman, seminar co-director, and Mark Sidwell, the author’s colleague at BJU.
 
 
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*I have a better-than-average knowledge of the law, but I am not now, nor ever have been, a lawyer.--John Foxe 10:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 
*I have a better-than-average knowledge of the law, but I am not now, nor ever have been, a lawyer.--John Foxe 10:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 
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Revision as of 21:05, 4 May 2009

Relationship of "John Foxe" and "Hi540"

I admit that it would be nice to have a non-Mormon ally at Mormon articles,
but I long ago promised not to create sock puppets or attempt to recruit others to support my views.
That's a promise I've kept and intend to keep.
--John Foxe (6 December 2007) off-site

The following table compares three individuals: two are imaginary, and one is real. You may draw your own conclusions.

* "John Foxe" "Hi540" "Real world" BJU professor
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  • Among other things, I'm a serious amateur violist; and I also play the recorder on occasion.
John Foxe 13:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC) off-site
  • "John is an amateur musician who has enjoyed playing the violin, viola, and recorder in campus, church, and community groups." off-site
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  • Teaches history at Bob Jones University. [1]
  • "John teaches history at Bob Jones University" off-site
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  • Defines the word "Historiography." [2]
  • Teaches a class called "Historiography." [3]
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  • Submitted article to BYU Studies, which was rejected and then published in another journal. [4]
  • Published article in Dialogue. [5]
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  • Speaks French [6]
  • Speaks French [7]
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  • Either graduated from or has family members working at BJU. [8]
  • Attended BJU. Currently affiliated with BJU. [9]
  • Graduated from BJU. Wife teaches English at BJU. Dr. Matzko "eventually earned degrees from Bob Jones University, the University of Cincinnati and the University of Virginia." off-site
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  • BJU faculty member. [10]
  • "John [Matzko] teaches history at Bob Jones University, Greenville, South Carolina." off-site
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  • Graduated from the University of Virginia. [11]
  • Dr. Matzko "eventually earned degrees from Bob Jones University, the University of Cincinnati and the University of Virginia." off-site
  • Served in the military during the time period required to receive the "National Defense Service Medal". [12]
  • Served in the military during the time period required to receive the "National Defense Service Medal". "In 1969, John was drafted into the U.S. Army and served eighteen months in the Honor Guard, including a tour of duty as a sentinel at the Tomb of the Unknowns in Arlington National Cemetery." Serving during this period would qualify Dr. Matzko to receive the "National Defense Service Medal." off-site
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  • Prior to marriage he and his wife attended different churches. [14]
  • "John became a Christian as a child while attending the Bible Presbyterian Church of Collingswood...[his wife] became a charter member of North Love Baptist Church." off-site
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  • Parents immigrated from Europe. [15]
  • Parents immigrated from Europe. [16]
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  • Editor “Hi540” uploaded a picture of Lake Santeetlah to Wikimedia Commons on May 18, 2008. The source is “own work” and the copyright holder is John Matzko. off-site
  • The photo uploaded to Wikicommons happens to be the same photo that Dr. Matzko displays on his web page. off-site
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  • Has an "unusual" last name. [17]
  • Has an unusual last name.
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  • "Furthermore, we need to call a spade a spade….John Foxe 12:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC) off-site
  • "calling a spade a spade" in the edit summary. off-site
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  • Response to Previous Art Gallery post. Do some research about the BJU M&G; not only can I personally attest to the validity of that statement (having toured the Gallery on an occasion), but there is considerable respect online among art historians. There are paintings by very famous masters such as Veronese, Titian, Tintoretto, Benjamin West, and many more. I would not say that such a statement is "blatantly false.” John Foxe 13:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC) off-site
  • 26 November 2007 Hi540 added the following (incomplete) entry to the Wikitravel page “Greenville (South Carolina)” "Bob Jones University Museum and Gallery, 1700 Wade Hampton Blvd., [5]. Tu-Sunday, 2-5. Closed Monday. A thorough presentation of European Old Masters from the fourteenth through the nineteenth centuries including one of the finest collections of Italian Baroque painting in the United States. Includes religious art by Rubens, van Dyck, Reni, Tintoretto, Le Brun, Cranach, Ribera, and Murillo set among period furniture, sculpture, tapestries, and porcelains. Adults $5, Seniors $4, Students $3. Immerse yourself in the relaxing," off-site
  • August 14, 2007. "Tracking Wikipedia's Not-So-Neutral Editors." Web surfers can watch as an editor from Bob Jones University calls the campus museum “the great collection of religious art in the Western Hemisphere.” Comment #2: "The Bob Jones University Museum and Gallery may not “the great collection of religious art in the Western Hemisphere,” but there are few that surpass it in either quality or size. Sounds outrageous. It just happens to be true." — John Matzko Aug 16, 05:48 PM
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  • "John Foxe" welcomed John Matzko's son Austin to Wikpedia. (11 March 2009) off-site
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  • I once heard Richard Bushman discuss the BoA and eventually turned my eyes away from his because I was embarrassed for him.--John Foxe 22:17, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Photo of Richard Bushman by John Matzko. off-site
  • The article thanks “participants in the 2005 NEH Seminar on ‘Joseph Smith

and the Origins of Mormonism’ for criticism of an earlier draft. Especially valuable were the comments of Richard Bushman, seminar co-director, and Mark Sidwell, the author’s colleague at BJU.

*
  • I have a better-than-average knowledge of the law, but I am not now, nor ever have been, a lawyer.--John Foxe 10:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Matzko, John A., "'The Best Men of the Bar': The Founding of the American Bar Association," in The New High Priests: Lawyers in Post-Civil War America, edited by Gerard W. Gawalt, Westport, Conn.: Greenwood Press, 1984, pp. 75-96. off-site