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*Referring to the Relief Society, Joseph said "I now prophecy that before ten years shall roll around, the queens of the earth shall come and pay their respects to this Society." The author points out: "No queens have ever fulfilled this prophecy." | *Referring to the Relief Society, Joseph said "I now prophecy that before ten years shall roll around, the queens of the earth shall come and pay their respects to this Society." The author points out: "No queens have ever fulfilled this prophecy." | ||
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− | * The author omits key qualifying statements from Joseph's prophecy: see [[Joseph Smith | + | * The author omits key qualifying statements from Joseph's prophecy: see [[Joseph Smith/Prophecies/Queens to pay respect to Relief Society within ten years|Queens to pay respect to Relief Society within ten years?]] |
*The author takes this from Quinn's chronology, but there is no additional context for the quote. There is no source listed by Quinn, and he likewise omits the qualifier to this prophecy. | *The author takes this from Quinn's chronology, but there is no additional context for the quote. There is no source listed by Quinn, and he likewise omits the qualifier to this prophecy. | ||
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*Joseph Smith, ''Manuscript Diary'', under January 20, 1843, in Scott H. Faulring, ed., ''An American Prophet's Record: The Diaries and Journals of Joseph Smith'', 294. | *Joseph Smith, ''Manuscript Diary'', under January 20, 1843, in Scott H. Faulring, ed., ''An American Prophet's Record: The Diaries and Journals of Joseph Smith'', 294. | ||
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* The author omits Joseph's qualifying statements and uncertainty about what his revelation means. | * The author omits Joseph's qualifying statements and uncertainty about what his revelation means. | ||
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*From ''History of the Church'': "There are those of the rising generation who shall not taste death till Christ comes." | *From ''History of the Church'': "There are those of the rising generation who shall not taste death till Christ comes." | ||
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*Note too that Joseph said that ''were'' he going to prophesy, that is what he would say: | *Note too that Joseph said that ''were'' he going to prophesy, that is what he would say: | ||
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*From ''History of the Church'': "I prophecy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left for their wickedness." | *From ''History of the Church'': "I prophecy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left for their wickedness." | ||
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− | *[[Joseph Smith | + | *[[Joseph Smith/Prophecies/Government to be overthrown and wasted|Government to be overthrown and wasted]] |
*[[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Use_of_sources/Stephen_A._Douglas_prophecy|Stephen A. Douglas prophecy]] | *[[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Use_of_sources/Stephen_A._Douglas_prophecy|Stephen A. Douglas prophecy]] | ||
− | *[[Joseph Smith | + | *[[Joseph Smith/Prophecies/Civil War prophecy|Civil War prophecy]] |
*[[One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Attitude of Saints to Civil War prophecy|Attitude of Saints to Civil War prophecy]] | *[[One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Attitude of Saints to Civil War prophecy|Attitude of Saints to Civil War prophecy]] | ||
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*"While discussing the petition to Congress, I prophesied, by virtue of the holy Priesthood vested in me, and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that, if Congress will not hear our petition and grant us protection, they shall be broken up as a government, and god shall damn them. and there shall nothing be left of them—not even a grease spot." | *"While discussing the petition to Congress, I prophesied, by virtue of the holy Priesthood vested in me, and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that, if Congress will not hear our petition and grant us protection, they shall be broken up as a government, and god shall damn them. and there shall nothing be left of them—not even a grease spot." | ||
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− | *[[Joseph Smith | + | *[[Joseph Smith/Prophecies/Government to be overthrown and wasted|Government to be overthrown and wasted]] |
− | *[[Joseph Smith | + | *[[Joseph Smith/Prophecies/Civil War prophecy|Civil War prophecy]] |
*[[One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Attitude of Saints to Civil War prophecy|Attitude of Saints to Civil War prophecy]] | *[[One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Attitude of Saints to Civil War prophecy|Attitude of Saints to Civil War prophecy]] | ||
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Claims made in "Appendix A: Abraham's Book?" | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: Richard Abanes
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Claims made in "Appendix C: Recommended Resources" |
Claims made in "Appendix B: Failed Joseph Smith Prophecies"
Smith prophesied "that 5 years would not roll round before the company would all be able to live without cooking."
Mormons are still cooking their food.
—One Nation Under Gods, p. 465
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Endnotes
- [note] The entry reads: "{p. 254} Tuesday, Feb[ruary] 6[th] [several lines left blank] Evening with Hyrum and Sidney and the 12 [Apostles] and the wives at John Taylor's at 5 P.M. at supper. Very pleasant time. I prophesied at the table that 5 years would not roll round before the company would all be able to live without cooking. [rest of page blank]" — Joseph Smith, An American Prophet's Record:The Diaries and Journals of Joseph Smith, edited by Scott Faulring, Significant Mormon Diaries Series No. 1, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books in association with Smith Research Associates, 1989), 445.
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