FAIR is a non-profit organization dedicated to providing well-documented answers to criticisms of the doctrine, practice, and history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Difference between revisions of "Kinderhook Plates"
m |
m |
||
Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
{{Main Page}} | {{Main Page}} | ||
{{Navigation:Joseph Smith}} | {{Navigation:Joseph Smith}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
{{Navigation:Latter-day Saint history}} | {{Navigation:Latter-day Saint history}} | ||
Line 20: | Line 22: | ||
<embedvideo service="youtube">kKNf_u56LYY</embedvideo> | <embedvideo service="youtube">kKNf_u56LYY</embedvideo> | ||
− | {{ | + | {{Main Page}} |
− | {{: | + | |
− | + | =What are the Kinderhook Plates?= | |
− | + | {{BMCentral|title=What Do the Kinderhook Plates Reveal About Joseph Smith’s Gift of Translation?|url=https://knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/knowhy/what-do-the-kinderhook-plates-reveal-about-joseph-smiths-gift-of-translation|number=454}} | |
− | + | ==The Kinderhook Plates are a forged set of metal plates that were given to Joseph Smith to translate== | |
− | + | [[Image:KinderhookPlates.jpg|frame|right|Image of front and back of four of the six Kinderhook plates are shown in these facsimiles (rough copies of even earlier published facsimiles), which appeared in 1909 in {{HC|vol=5|start=374|end=375}}]] | |
+ | |||
+ | A set of small plates, engraved with characters of ancient appearance, were purported to have been unearthed in Kinderhook, Illinois, in April 1843. The so-called "Kinderhook plates" have been something of an enigma within the Mormon community since they first appeared. While there are faithful LDS who take a number of different positions on the topic of these artifacts, most have concluded that they were fakes. | ||
+ | |||
+ | Joseph Smith appears to have had the plates in his possession for about five days. | ||
+ | |||
+ | Joseph Smith's personal secretary, William Clayton said, | ||
+ | <blockquote> | ||
+ | President Joseph has translated a portion [of the Kinderhook plates], and says they contain the history of the person with whom they were found; and he was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, King of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom through the ruler of heaven and earth. | ||
+ | </blockquote> | ||
+ | Chemical analysis performed by the Chicago Historical Society on one of the plates in 1981 showed that the plates were fake.<ref>Stanley B. Kimball, "[https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1981/08/kinderhook-plates-brought-to-joseph-smith-appear-to-be-a-nineteenth-century-hoax?lang=eng Kinderhook Plates Brought to Joseph Smith Appear to be a Nineteenth Century Hoax]," ''Ensign'' 11 (August 1981).</ref> Before the release of the CHS' analysis, criticism of the episode from those outside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was infrequent.<ref>Notable works that mentioned it are William Alexander Linn, ''The Story of the Mormons: From the Date of Their Origin to the Year 1901'' (New York: Macmillan, 1902) and Jerald and Sandra Tanner, ''Archaeology and the Book of Mormon'' (Salt Lake City: Modern Microlm, 1969).</ref> After the release, criticism became much more frequent.<ref>Edward J. Decker and Dave Hunt, ''The God Makers: A Shocking Exposé of What the Mormon Church Really Believes'' (Eugene, OR: Harvest, 1984), 99–115; Jerald and Sandra Tanner, ''Mormonism: Shadow or Reality?'', 4th ed.(Salt Lake City: Utah Lighthouse Ministry, 1987); John Ahmanson, “The Book of Mormon," ''Ahmanson’s Secret History: A Translation of Vor Tids Muhamed'', trns. Gleason L. Archer, (Chicago, IL: Moody Press, 1984), 75–102; Grant H. Palmer, ''An Insider's View of Mormon Origins'' (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 2002), 30–34, 259; Jeremy T. Runnells, ''CES Letter: My Search for Answers to My Mormon Doubts'' (American Fork, UT: CES Letter Foundation, 2017), 77–80.</ref> All critics have believed that this episode brings into question any claim of "inspiration" that Joseph used to translate the Kinderhook Plates and by extension any other revelations he received. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Joseph Smith "translated" a portion of those plates, not by claiming inspiration, but by comparing characters on the plates to those on his "Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language" (GAEL)== | ||
+ | |||
+ | However, Joseph Smith "translated" a portion of those plates, not by claiming inspiration, but by comparing characters on the plates to those on his "Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language" (GAEL). (The GAEL was composed in Kirtland about the time of the translation of the Book of Abraham.) Joseph found one of the most prominent characters on the plates to match a character on the second page of characters in the GAEL. Both were boat shaped. The GAEL interpretation of this boat-shaped character included everything that William Clayton said Joseph said. | ||
+ | |||
+ | Corroborating this is a letter in the ''New York Herald'' for May 30th, 1843, from someone who signed pseudonymously as "A Gentile." Research shows "A Gentile" to be a friendly non-Mormon then living in Nauvoo by the name of Sylvester Emmons.<ref>Don Bradley and Mark Ashurst-McGee, “‘President Joseph Has Translated a Portion’: Joseph Smith and the Mistranslation of the Kinderhook Plates,” ''Producing Ancient Scripture: Joseph Smith's Translation Projects in the Development of Mormon Christianity'', eds. Michael Hubbard McKay, Mark Ashurst-McGee, and Brian M. Hauglid (Salt Lake City: University of Utah Press, 2020), 499–502.</ref> He wrote: | ||
+ | <blockquote> | ||
+ | The plates are evidently brass, and are covered on both sides with hieroglyphics. They were brought up and shown to Joseph Smith. He compared them, in my presence, with his Egyptian Alphabet…and they are evidently the same characters. He therefore will be able to decipher them. | ||
+ | </blockquote> | ||
+ | We know that Joseph was interested in languages. He studied Greek, Hebrew, and German in a secular manner. Therefore, we can easily believe that he attempted to translate the Kinderhook plates without assuming prophetic powers, which powers consequently remain credible. | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{SeeAlso|Forgeries_related_to_Mormonism/Joseph_Smith_and_the_Kinderhook_Plates/Accounts|l1=Various accounts of the Kinderhook plates examined}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Additional Reading and Visual Content== | ||
+ | *Don Bradley 2011 FairMormon Conference Presentation | ||
+ | <embedvideo service="youtube">v=XQ1eoW7-q9k&t</embedvideo> | ||
+ | *Saints Unscripted "Do the Kinderhook Plates Prove Joseph Smith Was a False Prophet?" | ||
+ | <embedvideo service="youtube">dwxiFAtUSEs</embedvideo> | ||
+ | *Brian Hauglid - "[https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/no-weapon-shall-prosper/did-joseph-smith-translate-kinderhook-plates ''Did Joseph Smith Translate the Kinderhook Plates?'']" | ||
+ | *Stanley Kimball (Ensign 1980) "[https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1981/08/kinderhook-plates-brought-to-joseph-smith-appear-to-be-a-nineteenth-century-hoax?lang=eng Kinderhook ''Plates Brought to Joseph Smith Appear to Be Nineteenth Century Hoax'']" | ||
+ | * ''Saints'' (lds.org 2018) "[https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/kinderhook-plates?lang=eng ''Kinderhook Plates'']" | ||
+ | |||
+ | =Why does ''History of the Church'' say that Joseph Smith said "I have translated a portion of them..."?= | ||
+ | ==''History of the Church'' was written by others in the "first person," as if Joseph wrote it himself== | ||
+ | |||
+ | The following is from Stanley B. Kimball, "Kinderhook Plates Brought to Joseph Smith Appear to Be a Nineteenth-Century Hoax," ''Ensign'', August 1981 {{link|url=http://www.lds.org/ensign/1981/08/kinderhook-plates-brought-to-joseph-smith-appear-to-be-a-nineteenth-century-hoax?lang=eng}} | ||
+ | <blockquote> | ||
+ | These two oblique references to a “translation” were followed thirteen years later by a more direct published statement that <span style="color:blue">until recently was wrongly thought to have been written by Joseph Smith himself.</span> On September 3 and 10, 1856, the following paragraphs appeared in the Deseret News as part of the serialized “History of Joseph Smith”: | ||
+ | <br><br> | ||
+ | “[May 1, 1843:] I insert fac similes of the six brass plates found near Kinderhook, in Pike county, Illinois, on April 23, by Mr. R. Wiley and others, while excavating a large mound. They found a skeleton about six feet from the surface of the earth, which must have stood nine feet high. The plates were found on the breast of the skeleton, and were covered on both sides with ancient characters. | ||
+ | <br><br> | ||
+ | <span style="color:blue">“I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the ruler of heaven and earth.”</span> (Then followed a reprint of material from the Times and Seasons article.) | ||
+ | <br><br> | ||
+ | <span style="color:blue">Although this account appears to be the writing of Joseph Smith, it is actually an excerpt from a journal of William Clayton.</span> It has been well known that the serialized “History of Joseph Smith” consists largely of items from other persons’ personal journals and other sources, collected during Joseph Smith’s lifetime and continued after the Saints were in Utah, then edited and pieced together to form a history of the Prophet’s life “in his own words.” It was not uncommon in the nineteenth century for biographers to put the narrative in the first person when compiling a biographical work, even though the subject of the biography did not actually say or write all the words attributed to him; thus the narrative would represent a faithful report of what others felt would be helpful to print. The Clayton journal excerpt was one item used in this way. <span style="color:blue">For example, the words “I have translated a portion” originally read “President J. has translated a portion. …”</span> | ||
+ | </blockquote> | ||
+ | |||
+ | =Did Joseph Smith attempt to translate the Kinderhook Plates?= | ||
+ | ==Joseph Smith attempted to translate a character on the Kinderhood Plates by matching it to his "Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language (GAEL)"== | ||
+ | |||
+ | Don Bradley presented compelling evidence during his 2011 FAIR Conference presentation that Joseph Smith did indeed attempt to translate a character on the Kinderhook Plates.<ref>Don Bradley, "[http://www.fairmormon.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Don-Bradley-Kinderhook-President-Joseph-Has-Translated-a-Portion-1.pdf President Joseph Has Translated a Portion': Solving the Mystery of the Kinderhook Plates]," ''FAIR Conference'' 2011.</ref> Bradley noted that William Clayton's account is likely representing personal and specific knowledge acquired from Joseph Smith, since evidence indicates that he made his journal entries that day while he was at the Prophet's home. Clayton's account states that | ||
+ | |||
+ | <blockquote> | ||
+ | Prest J. has translated a portion and says they contain the history of the person with whom they were found and he was a descendant of Ham through the loins of Pharoah king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the ruler of heaven and earth. | ||
+ | </blockquote> | ||
+ | |||
+ | Bradley noted that one of the most prominent characters on the Kinderhook Plates (a symbol shaped like a boat), when broken down into its individual elements matched a symbol found on page 4 (the second page of characters) of the Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language (GAEL), often referred to as the "Egyptian Alphabet. The GAEL provides meanings for the individual symbols, and the meaning assigned to the particular symbol found on the plates supports the translation reported to have been provided by Joseph. | ||
+ | |||
+ | The conclusion is that Clayton's account appears to be accurate, that Joseph did attempt to translate "a portion" of them by non-revelatory means, and the translation provided matches a corresponding symbol and explanation in the GAEL. | ||
+ | |||
+ | *As William Clayton noted in his journal, Joseph "translated a portion" of the Kinderhook plates. Joseph attempted to translate one of the characters on the plates by matching it to a similar character on the Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language (GAEL), a document that was produced in the same timeframe as the Book of Abraham. It is from the GAEL that he derived the "descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh" meaning. | ||
+ | *This data was introduced by Don Bradley at the 2011 FAIR Conference. For a detailed explanation, see Don Bradley [http://www.fairlds.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Don-Bradley-Kinderhook-President-Joseph-Has-Translated-a-Portion-1.pdf "‘President Joseph Has Translated a Portion’: Solving the Mystery of the Kinderhook Plates,"] 2011 FAIR Conference. | ||
+ | [[File:Kinderhook.plates.don.bradley.description.jpg|center|1000 px]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | =Did Joseph attempt to translate the Kinderhook Plates using the "gift and power of God?"= | ||
+ | ==Joseph apparently did not attempt to translate by the "gift and power of God". Joseph never translated more than the single character== | ||
+ | |||
+ | At the time that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon, he only claimed the ability to translate by the "gift and power of God." Over time, Joseph studied other languages and wished to learn to translate by other means. His attempt to use the Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language (a document that he and others had created) to attempt a translation of the Kinderhook Plates fits in with this desire. Since only a single character "matched," Joseph would have been unable to continue to translate the plates in this manner. This may explain why such a translation was never produced: beyond the single character which happened to match, it would not have even been possible to translate the fraudulent plates either manually or by the "gift and power of God." Therefore, no translation was ever produced. | ||
+ | |||
+ | =What does Joseph's attempt to translate the Kinderhook Plates tell us about his "gift of translation?"= | ||
+ | ==Joseph's attempt to translate manually tells us that he didn't attempt to translate the plates using the "gift and power of God"== | ||
+ | |||
+ | A critical graphic from "mormoninfographics" states that "Joseph didn't discern the fraud. The LDS Church now concedes it's a hoax. What does this tell us about Joseph Smith's gift of translation?" | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[File:Mormoninfographic.kinderhook.josephs.gift.jpg|800 px|thumb|center]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | Simply put, Joseph's attempt to translate the plates manually tells us that he didn't attempt to translate the plates using the "gift and power of God." | ||
+ | |||
+ | =Why is the statement of William Clayton regarding the Kinderhook Plates in ''History of the Church'' written as if Joseph Smith himself said it?= | ||
+ | ==''History of the Church'' was written in the "first person" after Joseph's death== | ||
+ | |||
+ | It should be noted that the critical "mormoninfographic" includes a portion of a quote from ''History of the Church'' that is written as if it came from Joseph Smith. | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[File:Mormoninfographic.kinderhook.clayton.jpg|800 px|thumb|center]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | The graphic is correct, but it is useful to know the actual source of the quote used by ''History of the Church.'': | ||
+ | <blockquote> | ||
+ | <span style="color:blue">I insert fac-similes of the six brass plates found near Kinderhook,</span> in Pike county, Illinois, on April 23, by Mr. Robert Wiley and others, while excavating a large mound. They found a skeleton about six feet from the surface of the earth, which must have stood nine feet high. The plates were found on the breast of the skeleton and were covered on both sides with ancient characters. <span style="color:blue">I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the Ruler of heaven and earth.</span> | ||
+ | </blockquote> | ||
+ | |||
+ | The quote in question was written in William Clayton's journal. It was rewritten in the first person (as if Joseph Smith had said it himself) when it was included in ''History of the Church''. Clayton's journal is the primary source, which was used in ''History of the Church'' (a secondary source). | ||
+ | |||
+ | The quote by William Clayton is indeed accurate: Joseph Smith ''did'' attempt to translate a portion of the Kinderhook Plates. This is explained in the following section. | ||
+ | |||
+ | The following is from Stanley B. Kimball, "Kinderhook Plates Brought to Joseph Smith Appear to Be a Nineteenth-Century Hoax," ''Ensign'', August 1981 {{link|url=http://www.lds.org/ensign/1981/08/kinderhook-plates-brought-to-joseph-smith-appear-to-be-a-nineteenth-century-hoax?lang=eng}} | ||
+ | <blockquote> | ||
+ | These two oblique references to a “translation” were followed thirteen years later by a more direct published statement that <span style="color:blue">until recently was wrongly thought to have been written by Joseph Smith himself.</span> On September 3 and 10, 1856, the following paragraphs appeared in the Deseret News as part of the serialized “History of Joseph Smith”: | ||
+ | <br><br> | ||
+ | “[May 1, 1843:] I insert fac similes of the six brass plates found near Kinderhook, in Pike county, Illinois, on April 23, by Mr. R. Wiley and others, while excavating a large mound. They found a skeleton about six feet from the surface of the earth, which must have stood nine feet high. The plates were found on the breast of the skeleton, and were covered on both sides with ancient characters. | ||
+ | <br><br> | ||
+ | <span style="color:blue">“I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the ruler of heaven and earth.”</span> (Then followed a reprint of material from the Times and Seasons article.) | ||
+ | <br><br> | ||
+ | <span style="color:blue">Although this account appears to be the writing of Joseph Smith, it is actually an excerpt from a journal of William Clayton.</span> It has been well known that the serialized “History of Joseph Smith” consists largely of items from other persons’ personal journals and other sources, collected during Joseph Smith’s lifetime and continued after the Saints were in Utah, then edited and pieced together to form a history of the Prophet’s life “in his own words.” It was not uncommon in the nineteenth century for biographers to put the narrative in the first person when compiling a biographical work, even though the subject of the biography did not actually say or write all the words attributed to him; thus the narrative would represent a faithful report of what others felt would be helpful to print. The Clayton journal excerpt was one item used in this way. <span style="color:blue">For example, the words “I have translated a portion” originally read “President J. has translated a portion. …”</span> | ||
+ | </blockquote> | ||
+ | |||
===== ===== | ===== ===== | ||
{{SummaryItem | {{SummaryItem | ||
Line 59: | Line 165: | ||
{{Critical sources box:Forgeries related to Mormonism/Joseph Smith and the Kinderhook Plates/CriticalSources}} | {{Critical sources box:Forgeries related to Mormonism/Joseph Smith and the Kinderhook Plates/CriticalSources}} | ||
{{endnotes sources}} | {{endnotes sources}} | ||
+ | |||
<!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --> | <!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --> | ||
+ | [[Category:An Insider's View of Mormon Origins]] | ||
+ | [[Category:John Dehlin's "Questions and Answers"]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Letter to a CES Director]] | ||
+ | [[Category:MormonThink]] | ||
+ | [[Category:No Man Knows My History]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Questions]] | ||
+ | [[es:Pregunta: ¿Cuáles son las planchas de Kinderhook?]] | ||
+ | [[es:Pregunta: ¿José Smith intenta traducir las planchas de Kinderhook?]] | ||
+ | [[es:Pregunta: ¿José intenta traducir las planchas de Kinderhook utilizando el "don y el poder de Dios"?]] | ||
+ | [[es:Pregunta: ¿Por qué ''Historia de la Iglesia'' dicen que José Smith dijo que "he traducido una parte de ellos ..."?]] | ||
+ | [[es:Pregunta: ¿Por qué es la declaración de '' La historia de la Iglesia '', escrito como si José dijo?]] | ||
+ | [[es:Pregunta: ¿Qué hace el intento de José para traducir las planchas de Kinderhook nos hablan de su "don de la traducción"?]] | ||
+ | [[pt:Pergunta: Joseph Smith tentou traduzir as placas de Kinderhook?]] | ||
+ | [[pt:Pergunta: Joseph tentou traduzir as placas de Kinderhook usando o “dom e poder de Deus?"]] | ||
+ | [[pt:Pergunta: O que a tentativa de Joseph de traduzir as placas de Kinderhook nos diz sobre seu “dom de tradução”?]] | ||
+ | [[pt:Pergunta: Por que o History of the Church afirma ter Joseph Smith dito "eu traduzi uma parte delas..."]] | ||
+ | [[pt:Pergunta: o que são as Placas Kinderhook?]] | ||
+ | [[pt:Pergunta: por que a declaração no ''History of the Church'' foi escrita como se Joseph a tivesse proferido?]] | ||
[[de:Mormonismus betreffende Fälschungen/Kinderhook Platten]] | [[de:Mormonismus betreffende Fälschungen/Kinderhook Platten]] | ||
[[es:Falsificaciones relacionados con el Mormonismo/José Smith y las Planchas de Kinderhook]] | [[es:Falsificaciones relacionados con el Mormonismo/José Smith y las Planchas de Kinderhook]] | ||
[[es:Falsificaciones relacionados con el Mormonismo/José Smith y las Planchas de Kinderhook]] | [[es:Falsificaciones relacionados con el Mormonismo/José Smith y las Planchas de Kinderhook]] | ||
[[pt:Falsificações Relacionadas ao Mormonismo/Joseph Smith e as placas de Kinderhook]] | [[pt:Falsificações Relacionadas ao Mormonismo/Joseph Smith e as placas de Kinderhook]] | ||
− | |||
− | |||
[[Category:John Dehlin's "Questions and Answers"]] | [[Category:John Dehlin's "Questions and Answers"]] |
Revision as of 00:31, 17 May 2024
Life and Character |
|
Youth |
|
Revelations and the Church |
|
Prophetic Statements |
|
Society |
|
Plural marriage (polygamy) |
|
Death |
Joseph Smith and the Kinderhook plates
Summary: A set of small plates, engraved with characters of ancient appearance, were purported to have been unearthed in Kinderhook, Illinois, in April 1843. The so-called "Kinderhook plates" have been something of an enigma within the Mormon community since they first appeared. While there are faithful LDS who take a number of different positions on the topic of these artifacts, most have concluded that they were fakes. This article summarizes some key information that critics often exclude from their discussion of the Kinderhook plates, and the extent of Joseph Smith's involvement.
Jump to details:
- Question: What are the Kinderhook Plates?
- Question: Why does History of the Church say that Joseph Smith said "I have translated a portion of them..."?
- Question: Did Joseph Smith attempt to translate the Kinderhook Plates?
- Question: Did Joseph attempt to translate the Kinderhook Plates using the "gift and power of God?"
- Question: What does Joseph's attempt to translate the Kinderhook Plates tell us about his "gift of translation?"
- Question: Why is the statement of William Clayton regarding the Kinderhook Plates in History of the Church written as if Joseph Smith himself said it?
- "‘President Joseph Has Translated a Portion’: Solving the Mystery of the Kinderhook Plates"
Video by The Interpreter Foundation.
What are the Kinderhook Plates?
The Kinderhook Plates are a forged set of metal plates that were given to Joseph Smith to translate
A set of small plates, engraved with characters of ancient appearance, were purported to have been unearthed in Kinderhook, Illinois, in April 1843. The so-called "Kinderhook plates" have been something of an enigma within the Mormon community since they first appeared. While there are faithful LDS who take a number of different positions on the topic of these artifacts, most have concluded that they were fakes.
Joseph Smith appears to have had the plates in his possession for about five days.
Joseph Smith's personal secretary, William Clayton said,
President Joseph has translated a portion [of the Kinderhook plates], and says they contain the history of the person with whom they were found; and he was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, King of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom through the ruler of heaven and earth.
Chemical analysis performed by the Chicago Historical Society on one of the plates in 1981 showed that the plates were fake.[1] Before the release of the CHS' analysis, criticism of the episode from those outside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was infrequent.[2] After the release, criticism became much more frequent.[3] All critics have believed that this episode brings into question any claim of "inspiration" that Joseph used to translate the Kinderhook Plates and by extension any other revelations he received.
Joseph Smith "translated" a portion of those plates, not by claiming inspiration, but by comparing characters on the plates to those on his "Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language" (GAEL)
However, Joseph Smith "translated" a portion of those plates, not by claiming inspiration, but by comparing characters on the plates to those on his "Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language" (GAEL). (The GAEL was composed in Kirtland about the time of the translation of the Book of Abraham.) Joseph found one of the most prominent characters on the plates to match a character on the second page of characters in the GAEL. Both were boat shaped. The GAEL interpretation of this boat-shaped character included everything that William Clayton said Joseph said.
Corroborating this is a letter in the New York Herald for May 30th, 1843, from someone who signed pseudonymously as "A Gentile." Research shows "A Gentile" to be a friendly non-Mormon then living in Nauvoo by the name of Sylvester Emmons.[4] He wrote:
The plates are evidently brass, and are covered on both sides with hieroglyphics. They were brought up and shown to Joseph Smith. He compared them, in my presence, with his Egyptian Alphabet…and they are evidently the same characters. He therefore will be able to decipher them.
We know that Joseph was interested in languages. He studied Greek, Hebrew, and German in a secular manner. Therefore, we can easily believe that he attempted to translate the Kinderhook plates without assuming prophetic powers, which powers consequently remain credible.
Additional Reading and Visual Content
- Don Bradley 2011 FairMormon Conference Presentation
- Saints Unscripted "Do the Kinderhook Plates Prove Joseph Smith Was a False Prophet?"
- Brian Hauglid - "Did Joseph Smith Translate the Kinderhook Plates?"
- Stanley Kimball (Ensign 1980) "Kinderhook Plates Brought to Joseph Smith Appear to Be Nineteenth Century Hoax"
- Saints (lds.org 2018) "Kinderhook Plates"
Why does History of the Church say that Joseph Smith said "I have translated a portion of them..."?
History of the Church was written by others in the "first person," as if Joseph wrote it himself
The following is from Stanley B. Kimball, "Kinderhook Plates Brought to Joseph Smith Appear to Be a Nineteenth-Century Hoax," Ensign, August 1981 off-site
These two oblique references to a “translation” were followed thirteen years later by a more direct published statement that until recently was wrongly thought to have been written by Joseph Smith himself. On September 3 and 10, 1856, the following paragraphs appeared in the Deseret News as part of the serialized “History of Joseph Smith”:
“[May 1, 1843:] I insert fac similes of the six brass plates found near Kinderhook, in Pike county, Illinois, on April 23, by Mr. R. Wiley and others, while excavating a large mound. They found a skeleton about six feet from the surface of the earth, which must have stood nine feet high. The plates were found on the breast of the skeleton, and were covered on both sides with ancient characters.
“I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the ruler of heaven and earth.” (Then followed a reprint of material from the Times and Seasons article.)
Although this account appears to be the writing of Joseph Smith, it is actually an excerpt from a journal of William Clayton. It has been well known that the serialized “History of Joseph Smith” consists largely of items from other persons’ personal journals and other sources, collected during Joseph Smith’s lifetime and continued after the Saints were in Utah, then edited and pieced together to form a history of the Prophet’s life “in his own words.” It was not uncommon in the nineteenth century for biographers to put the narrative in the first person when compiling a biographical work, even though the subject of the biography did not actually say or write all the words attributed to him; thus the narrative would represent a faithful report of what others felt would be helpful to print. The Clayton journal excerpt was one item used in this way. For example, the words “I have translated a portion” originally read “President J. has translated a portion. …”
Did Joseph Smith attempt to translate the Kinderhook Plates?
Joseph Smith attempted to translate a character on the Kinderhood Plates by matching it to his "Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language (GAEL)"
Don Bradley presented compelling evidence during his 2011 FAIR Conference presentation that Joseph Smith did indeed attempt to translate a character on the Kinderhook Plates.[5] Bradley noted that William Clayton's account is likely representing personal and specific knowledge acquired from Joseph Smith, since evidence indicates that he made his journal entries that day while he was at the Prophet's home. Clayton's account states that
Prest J. has translated a portion and says they contain the history of the person with whom they were found and he was a descendant of Ham through the loins of Pharoah king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the ruler of heaven and earth.
Bradley noted that one of the most prominent characters on the Kinderhook Plates (a symbol shaped like a boat), when broken down into its individual elements matched a symbol found on page 4 (the second page of characters) of the Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language (GAEL), often referred to as the "Egyptian Alphabet. The GAEL provides meanings for the individual symbols, and the meaning assigned to the particular symbol found on the plates supports the translation reported to have been provided by Joseph.
The conclusion is that Clayton's account appears to be accurate, that Joseph did attempt to translate "a portion" of them by non-revelatory means, and the translation provided matches a corresponding symbol and explanation in the GAEL.
- As William Clayton noted in his journal, Joseph "translated a portion" of the Kinderhook plates. Joseph attempted to translate one of the characters on the plates by matching it to a similar character on the Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language (GAEL), a document that was produced in the same timeframe as the Book of Abraham. It is from the GAEL that he derived the "descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh" meaning.
- This data was introduced by Don Bradley at the 2011 FAIR Conference. For a detailed explanation, see Don Bradley "‘President Joseph Has Translated a Portion’: Solving the Mystery of the Kinderhook Plates," 2011 FAIR Conference.
Did Joseph attempt to translate the Kinderhook Plates using the "gift and power of God?"
Joseph apparently did not attempt to translate by the "gift and power of God". Joseph never translated more than the single character
At the time that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon, he only claimed the ability to translate by the "gift and power of God." Over time, Joseph studied other languages and wished to learn to translate by other means. His attempt to use the Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language (a document that he and others had created) to attempt a translation of the Kinderhook Plates fits in with this desire. Since only a single character "matched," Joseph would have been unable to continue to translate the plates in this manner. This may explain why such a translation was never produced: beyond the single character which happened to match, it would not have even been possible to translate the fraudulent plates either manually or by the "gift and power of God." Therefore, no translation was ever produced.
What does Joseph's attempt to translate the Kinderhook Plates tell us about his "gift of translation?"
Joseph's attempt to translate manually tells us that he didn't attempt to translate the plates using the "gift and power of God"
A critical graphic from "mormoninfographics" states that "Joseph didn't discern the fraud. The LDS Church now concedes it's a hoax. What does this tell us about Joseph Smith's gift of translation?"
Simply put, Joseph's attempt to translate the plates manually tells us that he didn't attempt to translate the plates using the "gift and power of God."
Why is the statement of William Clayton regarding the Kinderhook Plates in History of the Church written as if Joseph Smith himself said it?
History of the Church was written in the "first person" after Joseph's death
It should be noted that the critical "mormoninfographic" includes a portion of a quote from History of the Church that is written as if it came from Joseph Smith.
The graphic is correct, but it is useful to know the actual source of the quote used by History of the Church.:
I insert fac-similes of the six brass plates found near Kinderhook, in Pike county, Illinois, on April 23, by Mr. Robert Wiley and others, while excavating a large mound. They found a skeleton about six feet from the surface of the earth, which must have stood nine feet high. The plates were found on the breast of the skeleton and were covered on both sides with ancient characters. I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the Ruler of heaven and earth.
The quote in question was written in William Clayton's journal. It was rewritten in the first person (as if Joseph Smith had said it himself) when it was included in History of the Church. Clayton's journal is the primary source, which was used in History of the Church (a secondary source).
The quote by William Clayton is indeed accurate: Joseph Smith did attempt to translate a portion of the Kinderhook Plates. This is explained in the following section.
The following is from Stanley B. Kimball, "Kinderhook Plates Brought to Joseph Smith Appear to Be a Nineteenth-Century Hoax," Ensign, August 1981 off-site
These two oblique references to a “translation” were followed thirteen years later by a more direct published statement that until recently was wrongly thought to have been written by Joseph Smith himself. On September 3 and 10, 1856, the following paragraphs appeared in the Deseret News as part of the serialized “History of Joseph Smith”:
“[May 1, 1843:] I insert fac similes of the six brass plates found near Kinderhook, in Pike county, Illinois, on April 23, by Mr. R. Wiley and others, while excavating a large mound. They found a skeleton about six feet from the surface of the earth, which must have stood nine feet high. The plates were found on the breast of the skeleton, and were covered on both sides with ancient characters.
“I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the ruler of heaven and earth.” (Then followed a reprint of material from the Times and Seasons article.)
Although this account appears to be the writing of Joseph Smith, it is actually an excerpt from a journal of William Clayton. It has been well known that the serialized “History of Joseph Smith” consists largely of items from other persons’ personal journals and other sources, collected during Joseph Smith’s lifetime and continued after the Saints were in Utah, then edited and pieced together to form a history of the Prophet’s life “in his own words.” It was not uncommon in the nineteenth century for biographers to put the narrative in the first person when compiling a biographical work, even though the subject of the biography did not actually say or write all the words attributed to him; thus the narrative would represent a faithful report of what others felt would be helpful to print. The Clayton journal excerpt was one item used in this way. For example, the words “I have translated a portion” originally read “President J. has translated a portion. …”
Could the "Egyptian Alphabet" used in an attempt to translate the Kinderhook plates have actually been the Anthon transcript?
Summary: A non-Mormon made the following statement regarding the Kinderhook Plates: ""They were brought up and shown to Joseph Smith. He compared them in my presence with his Egyptian alphabet, which he took from the plates from which the Book of Mormon was translated..." Why does the non-Mormon eyewitness say that the "Egyptian Alphabet" was "from the plates which the Book of Mormon was translated?"Jump to Subtopic:
- Question: Why does the non-Mormon eyewitness say that the "Egyptian Alphabet" was "from the plates which the Book of Mormon was translated"?
- Question: When was the "Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language" produced?
- Question: Couldn't the "Egyptian Alphabet" have referred to the "reformed Egyptian" characters on the Anthon transcript?
- Question: Does anyone assert that the GAEL was an actual correlation between Egyptian and the explanations offered?
Accounts
Summary: A summary of all of the accounts of the recovery of the Kinderhook plates.Don Bradley, "‘President Joseph Has Translated a Portion’: Solving the Mystery of the Kinderhook Plates"
Don Bradley, Proceedings of the 2011 FAIR Conference, (August 2011)So, a larger conclusion that we can draw is that we’ve got both the smoking-gun – the GAEL that he uses to translate, and we’ve got an eyewitness. We know exactly how Joseph Smith attempted to translate from the Kinderhook plates and obtain the content that Clayton says he did. A larger conclusion, then, that we can draw is that Joseph Smith translated from the Kinderhook plates not by revelation, but by non-revelatory means.
Click here to view the complete article
Key sources |
|
Wiki links |
|
FAIR links |
|
Online |
|
Video |
|
Print |
|
Navigators |
|
Sub categories |
Critical sources |
|
Notes
- ↑ Stanley B. Kimball, "Kinderhook Plates Brought to Joseph Smith Appear to be a Nineteenth Century Hoax," Ensign 11 (August 1981).
- ↑ Notable works that mentioned it are William Alexander Linn, The Story of the Mormons: From the Date of Their Origin to the Year 1901 (New York: Macmillan, 1902) and Jerald and Sandra Tanner, Archaeology and the Book of Mormon (Salt Lake City: Modern Microlm, 1969).
- ↑ Edward J. Decker and Dave Hunt, The God Makers: A Shocking Exposé of What the Mormon Church Really Believes (Eugene, OR: Harvest, 1984), 99–115; Jerald and Sandra Tanner, Mormonism: Shadow or Reality?, 4th ed.(Salt Lake City: Utah Lighthouse Ministry, 1987); John Ahmanson, “The Book of Mormon," Ahmanson’s Secret History: A Translation of Vor Tids Muhamed, trns. Gleason L. Archer, (Chicago, IL: Moody Press, 1984), 75–102; Grant H. Palmer, An Insider's View of Mormon Origins (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 2002), 30–34, 259; Jeremy T. Runnells, CES Letter: My Search for Answers to My Mormon Doubts (American Fork, UT: CES Letter Foundation, 2017), 77–80.
- ↑ Don Bradley and Mark Ashurst-McGee, “‘President Joseph Has Translated a Portion’: Joseph Smith and the Mistranslation of the Kinderhook Plates,” Producing Ancient Scripture: Joseph Smith's Translation Projects in the Development of Mormon Christianity, eds. Michael Hubbard McKay, Mark Ashurst-McGee, and Brian M. Hauglid (Salt Lake City: University of Utah Press, 2020), 499–502.
- ↑ Don Bradley, "President Joseph Has Translated a Portion': Solving the Mystery of the Kinderhook Plates," FAIR Conference 2011.