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As part of their [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology epistemology], members of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints] believe that commitment and belief in the Church and/or its doctrines may be established through spiritual experience. This is known as having with an experience with the Holy Ghost or "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit Holy Spirit]" ([https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/moro/10.3-5?clang=eng&lang=eng Moroni 10:3-5]).  
 
As part of their [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology epistemology], members of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints] believe that commitment and belief in the Church and/or its doctrines may be established through spiritual experience. This is known as having with an experience with the Holy Ghost or "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit Holy Spirit]" ([https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/moro/10.3-5?clang=eng&lang=eng Moroni 10:3-5]).  
  
Critics of the Church have questioned the use of spiritual experiences to establish commitment and belief&mdash;citing instances in which spiritual experience was used to establish belief in something and the belief turned out to be [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_evidence empirically] invalid. Among these examples used by critics are the supposed inability of being able to discern between revelation from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Mormonism God] and revelation from the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer#Latter-day_Saints Devil]<ref>Jeremy T. Runnells, ''CES Letter: My Search for Answers to my Mormon Doubts'' (American Fork, UT: CES Letter Foundation, 2017), 76.</ref>, reports of members who supposedly felt the spirit during fabricated stories of Elder Paul H. Dunn, a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_authority General Authority] in the Church from the 1970s to early 1990s<ref> Ibid., 77. This criticism is also sometimes applied to an [https://www.deseret.com/2017/7/31/20616729/elder-holland-withdraws-church-news-missionary-story situation] with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_R._Holland Elder Jeffrey R. Holland], an [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostle_(Latter_Day_Saints) apostle] in the Church that is currently active in his service. See John Dehlin, "Testimony/Feeling the Spirit" ''Mormon Stories''. <nowiki><https://www.mormonstories.org/truth-claims/mormon-culture/testimony-feeling-the-spirit/></nowiki>. Accessed October 25, 2019.</ref>the report of feeling the Spirit while watching or reading works of fiction<ref> Runnells, "CES Letter," 79.</ref>, the failure of spiritual experiences to provide the empirical fruit that was supposedly promised to the believer at the time of having the experience<ref>Ibid.</ref>, and others.
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Critics of the Church have questioned the use of spiritual experiences to establish commitment and belief&mdash;citing instances in which spiritual experience was used to establish belief in something and the belief turned out to be [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_evidence empirically] invalid. Among these examples used by critics are the supposed inability of being able to discern between revelation from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Mormonism God] and revelation from the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer#Latter-day_Saints Devil],<ref>Jeremy T. Runnells, ''CES Letter: My Search for Answers to my Mormon Doubts'' (American Fork, UT: CES Letter Foundation, 2017), 76.</ref> reports of members who supposedly felt the spirit during fabricated stories of Elder Paul H. Dunn, a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_authority General Authority] in the Church from the 1970s to early 1990s,<ref> Ibid., 77. This criticism is also sometimes applied to an [https://www.deseret.com/2017/7/31/20616729/elder-holland-withdraws-church-news-missionary-story situation] with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_R._Holland Elder Jeffrey R. Holland], an [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostle_(Latter_Day_Saints) apostle] in the Church that is currently active in his service. See John Dehlin, "Testimony/Feeling the Spirit" ''Mormon Stories''. <nowiki><https://www.mormonstories.org/truth-claims/mormon-culture/testimony-feeling-the-spirit/></nowiki>. Accessed October 25, 2019.</ref>the report of feeling the Spirit while watching or reading works of fiction,<ref> Runnells, "CES Letter," 79.</ref>, the failure of spiritual experiences to provide the empirical fruit that was supposedly promised to the believer at the time of having the experience,<ref>Ibid.</ref> and others.
  
This article will provide a collection of responses to these claims for those that would like to explore these criticisms from an apologetic perspective. A brief introduction to the various criticisms with links to responses follows.  
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This article will provide a collection of responses to these claims for those that would like to explore these criticisms from an apologetic perspective. A brief introduction to the various criticisms with links to responses follows.
  
 
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Question: How can one address arguments from reliability against the use of spiritual experiences in Latter-day Saint epistemology?

Introduction to the Criticism

As part of their epistemology, members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe that commitment and belief in the Church and/or its doctrines may be established through spiritual experience. This is known as having with an experience with the Holy Ghost or "Holy Spirit" (Moroni 10:3-5).

Critics of the Church have questioned the use of spiritual experiences to establish commitment and belief—citing instances in which spiritual experience was used to establish belief in something and the belief turned out to be empirically invalid. Among these examples used by critics are the supposed inability of being able to discern between revelation from God and revelation from the Devil,[1] reports of members who supposedly felt the spirit during fabricated stories of Elder Paul H. Dunn, a General Authority in the Church from the 1970s to early 1990s,[2]the report of feeling the Spirit while watching or reading works of fiction,[3], the failure of spiritual experiences to provide the empirical fruit that was supposedly promised to the believer at the time of having the experience,[4] and others.

This article will provide a collection of responses to these claims for those that would like to explore these criticisms from an apologetic perspective. A brief introduction to the various criticisms with links to responses follows.

Collection of Responses to Various Criticisms

Reading Works of Fiction

Some critics have pointed to how a Latter-day Saint who has felt the Spirit can also feel the Spirit while watching movies such as the Lion King, Forrest Gump, or Saving Private Ryan or reading fictional books such as Les Misérables. If a person can feel the Spirit while watching fictional movies or reading fictional books, what does that say about the Spirit's ability to confirm truth?

In the case of R-rated movies such as Saving Private Ryan, Latter-day Saints have received counsel to not watch them. If a Latter-day Saint goes against this counsel and watches it anyway, why would the Spirit be present while that person went against prophetic counsel and watched it anyway?

Sometimes, members of the Church have deliberately prayed about the truthfulness of other books to a receive a similar witness that they received about the Book of Mormon's truthfulness in an attempt to prove spiritual experience an unreliable method of determining truth.

Elder Paul H. Dunn

Elder Paul H. Dunn was a general authority in the Church during the 1970s up to the early 1990s. He told many fantastical stories of his time in war and playing baseball. Primarily former members of the Church have tried to point out instances in which faithful members felt the Spirit during the telling of these stories. If the Spirit was felt during a fabricated story, then what does that say about its ability to confirm truth? What is the Spirit?

Canada Copyright Revelation

Joseph Smith and two others traveled to Canada to sell the copyright of the Book of Mormon to replenish funds depleted during the book's publication in 1830. It is claimed by critics, basing their criticism in comments made by David Whitmer, that Joseph Smith (founder of the Church) reported that revelation may come from God or the Devil. Since Joseph received the revelation, and was supposedly confident it came from God but may not have, how are we supposed to know which revelations come God and which come from the Devil?

False Positives

Many members of the Church have had a spiritual experience in their lives that supposedly confirmed to them that they were supposed to do something and by doing that thing, receive some sort of promised blessing. When these impressions have failed to bring the promised fruit of the endeavor, they and other critics of the Church have wondered what use the use of spiritual experiences is when they can be misleading. The answer to this question lies within the theology of the Church as recorded in the official scriptures.

Revelation that Contradicts the Prophet's

Many members of the Church have claimed (even since the Church's founding: Doctrine and Covenants 28) to have received personal revelation that contradicts the revelation that the President of the Church (who Latter-day Saints believe to be a prophet) has received on behalf of the entire Church organization.

The Argument from Diversity

In Philosophy of Religion, there is a common problem cited against the existence of God. This problem is known as the problem of diversity. It is claimed that the existence of multiple competing religious traditions is evidence that a sovereign, self-disclosing God exists. If God does exist, why would he (she/they/it) inspire many different, contradicting, religious truth claims?

This problem has been asked of Latter-day Saint believers in relation to the use of spiritual experiences in their epistemology. If people can use spiritual experiences to establish their commitment to other religious traditions, what does this say about your use of spiritual experience to establish your belief?

This question is a part of the big three asked about the use of spiritual experiences in Latter-day Saint epistemology: diversity (which the cited article addresses), neuroscience, and reliability (which this article is addressing).

Circularity of the Use of Spiritual Experiences

Primarily secularist critics of the Church point out that the use of spiritual experiences, and more particularly the claim that the spiritual experiences come from God, is circular reasoning. Additionally, it is usually claimed that the way that Latter-day Saints interpret competing spiritual influences is circular. Latter-day Saints hold to a particular epistemic framework when interpreting the experiences of others in other faiths and competing spiritual experiences within the faith such as revelation that contradicts the prophet as described above. This article examines the charge of circularity.

Conclusion

Ultimately, it is believed by the author that the way that one chooses to interpret these supposed instances of reliability will ultimately determine which side of the debate they reside on. Take for instance this classic optical illusion.

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Which do you see in this image, a young woman or an old hag? Is there a point that you're able to see both? What makes it so that you can see it one way or the other? The answer is that you choose how to interpret the same data in a way that you prefer. Sometimes, the data that you interpret suggests one interpretation over others. If we darkened in the eyes of the old hag more, we could make it look like it was connected to the young woman's hair and thus one interpretation of the data may be compelled. The same principle might be applied to spiritual experience. The experiences themselves are inherently self-determinable, self-verifiable, and interpreted by one's self. One can choose how to interpret spiritual experience

Consider the words of the Book of Mormon prophet Moroni (Moroni 7:14-25):

14 Wherefore, take heed, my beloved brethren, that ye do not judge that which is aevil to be of God, or that which is good and of God to be of the devil.
15 For behold, my brethren, it is given unto you to judge, that ye may know good from evil; and the way to judge is as plain, that ye may know with a perfect knowledge, as the daylight is from the dark night.
16 For behold, the Spirit of Christ is given to every man, that he may know good from evil; wherefore, I show unto you the way to judge; for every thing which inviteth to do good, and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth by the power and gift of Christ; wherefore ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of God.
17 But whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do evil, and believe not in Christ, and deny him, and serve not God, then ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of the devil; for after this manner doth the devil work, for he persuadeth no man to do good, no, not one; neither do his angels; neither do they who subject themselves unto him.
18 And now, my brethren, seeing that ye know the alight by which ye may judge, which light is the light of Christ, see that ye do not judge wrongfully; for with that same judgment which ye judge ye shall also be judged.
19 Wherefore, I beseech of you, brethren, that ye should search diligently in the alight of Christ that ye may know good from evil; and if ye will lay hold upon every good thing, and condemn it not, ye certainly will be a child of Christ.
20 And now, my brethren, how is it possible that ye can lay hold upon every good thing?
21 And now I come to that faith, of which I said I would speak; and I will tell you the way whereby ye may lay hold on every good thing.
22 For behold, God knowing all things, being from everlasting to everlasting, behold, he sent angels to minister unto the children of men, to make manifest concerning the coming of Christ; and in Christ there should come every good thing.
23 And God also declared unto prophets, by his own mouth, that Christ should come.
24 And behold, there were divers ways that he did manifest things unto the children of men, which were good; and all things which are good cometh of Christ; otherwise men were fallen, and there could no good thing come unto them.
25 Wherefore, by the ministering of angels, and by every word which proceeded forth out of the mouth of God, men began to exercise faith in Christ; and thus by faith, they did lay hold upon every good thing; and thus it was until the coming of Christ.

Do you see what he's saying? He tells the future reader of the record that they should lay hold upon every good thing, to be sure to interpret that which is good from that which is of God correctly, and to do it through the Light of Christ. But how do we do that? We pay attention to the framework provided to us "by the mouth of God through holy prophets"! When we have developed the framework through which Latter-day Saint revelation views a particular spiritual experience in a particular situation, we can carefully discern and weigh what that spiritual experience might be telling us through the framework of revelation from God to prophets. It is believed by the author that the epistemic framework provided by revelation is robust enough to the point that one will be able to choose how one interprets and believes in spiritual experience (Joshua 24:15). These articles and the articles responding to questions about diversity and neuroscience will hopefully prove that.


Notes

  1. Jeremy T. Runnells, CES Letter: My Search for Answers to my Mormon Doubts (American Fork, UT: CES Letter Foundation, 2017), 76.
  2. Ibid., 77. This criticism is also sometimes applied to an situation with Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, an apostle in the Church that is currently active in his service. See John Dehlin, "Testimony/Feeling the Spirit" Mormon Stories. <https://www.mormonstories.org/truth-claims/mormon-culture/testimony-feeling-the-spirit/>. Accessed October 25, 2019.
  3. Runnells, "CES Letter," 79.
  4. Ibid.