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==Response to claim: 209 - Brigham's trip south in May 1861 was "to insure the southern Utahns understood the need for silence on the subject of Mountain Meadows"== | ==Response to claim: 209 - Brigham's trip south in May 1861 was "to insure the southern Utahns understood the need for silence on the subject of Mountain Meadows"== | ||
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Brigham's trip south in May 1861 was "to insure the southern Utahns understood the need for silence on the subject of Mountain Meadows." | Brigham's trip south in May 1861 was "to insure the southern Utahns understood the need for silence on the subject of Mountain Meadows." | ||
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Brigham is said to have ordered the cross and cairn at Mountain Meadows torn down. | Brigham is said to have ordered the cross and cairn at Mountain Meadows torn down. | ||
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*Wilford Woodruff journal, May 25, 1861. | *Wilford Woodruff journal, May 25, 1861. | ||
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| + | ==Response to claim: 213 - The "Godbeites" were "demanding disclosure" about the massacre== | ||
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The "Godbeites" were "demanding disclosure" about the massacre. | The "Godbeites" were "demanding disclosure" about the massacre. | ||
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*The author references a series of anonymous letters written under the pseudonym "Argus" that were published in the ''Utah Reporter'' between 1870 and 1871. | *The author references a series of anonymous letters written under the pseudonym "Argus" that were published in the ''Utah Reporter'' between 1870 and 1871. | ||
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| + | * {{Detail|Blood_of_the_Prophets:_Brigham_Young_and_the_Massacre_at_Mountain_Meadows/Use_of_sources/Anonymous source: "Argus"|l1=Anonymous source: "Argus"}} | ||
| − | == | + | ==Response to claim: 215 - The "entire blame of the massacre was shifted to" John D. Lee's shoulders== |
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| − | The "entire blame of the massacre was shifted to | + | The "entire blame of the massacre was shifted to" John D. Lee's shoulders. |
| − | | | + | |disinformation=This is clearly false. Contemporary government documents show that federal officials continued to "show...efforts by the federal machinery to prosecute others for at least eight years after Lee's trial." <ref>{{FR-16-1-9}}</ref> If blame rested on Lee alone, this would make no sense. |
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| + | Brooks, ''John Doyle Lee'', 296. | ||
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*{{Detail|Brigham Young/Prosecution of Mountain Meadows Massacre/Deal with Brigham Young|l1=Deal with Brigham to blame only Lee?}} | *{{Detail|Brigham Young/Prosecution of Mountain Meadows Massacre/Deal with Brigham Young|l1=Deal with Brigham to blame only Lee?}} | ||
*{{Detail|Mountain Meadows Massacre/Prosecution|l1=Prosecution for Mountain Meadows}} | *{{Detail|Mountain Meadows Massacre/Prosecution|l1=Prosecution for Mountain Meadows}} | ||
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| − | == | + | ==Response to claim: 215 - The author claims that Lee was "regaling" his family with "the divinity of Smith and their one true religion"== |
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| − | The author claims that Lee was "regaling" his family with "the divinity of | + | The author claims that Lee was "regaling" his family with "the divinity of Smith and their one true religion." |
| − | | | + | |propaganda=LDS doctrine has never regarded Joseph Smith as divine. |
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| − | + | Brooks, ''Emma Lee'', 57. | |
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| + | *{{Detail|Joseph Smith/Status in LDS belief|l1=Joseph Smith's status in LDS belief.}} | ||
| − | == | + | ==Response to claim: 216 - Former bishop Klingensmith is said to have claimed that the militia was "called out for the purpose of committing acts of hostility" against the emigrants== |
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Former bishop Klingensmith is said to have claimed that the militia was "called out for the purpose of committing acts of hostility" against the emigrants, and that they were ordered to "kill all of said company of emigrants except the little children." | Former bishop Klingensmith is said to have claimed that the militia was "called out for the purpose of committing acts of hostility" against the emigrants, and that they were ordered to "kill all of said company of emigrants except the little children." | ||
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*"A MORMON MONSTROSITY": ''New York Herald'', September 14, 1872. Philip Klingensmith affidavit, April 10, 1871, printed in {{CriticalWork:Stenhouse:Rocky Mountain Saints|pages=439-442}} | *"A MORMON MONSTROSITY": ''New York Herald'', September 14, 1872. Philip Klingensmith affidavit, April 10, 1871, printed in {{CriticalWork:Stenhouse:Rocky Mountain Saints|pages=439-442}} | ||
*Brooks, ''Mountain Meadows Massacre'', 238-242. | *Brooks, ''Mountain Meadows Massacre'', 238-242. | ||
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* {{CrossRef:Bagley:Blood of the Prophets|pages=178}} | * {{CrossRef:Bagley:Blood of the Prophets|pages=178}} | ||
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Contents
- 1 Response to claims made in Chapter 14: "Mountain Meadows, May 25, 1861"
- 1.1.2 FAIR's Response
Response to claims made in Chapter 14: "Mountain Meadows, May 25, 1861"
| Chapter 13 | A FAIR Analysis of: American Massacre: The Tragedy at Mountain Meadows A work by author: Sally Denton
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Chapter 15 |
Response to claim: 209 - Brigham's trip south in May 1861 was "to insure the southern Utahns understood the need for silence on the subject of Mountain Meadows"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
Brigham's trip south in May 1861 was "to insure the southern Utahns understood the need for silence on the subject of Mountain Meadows."Author's sources:
- Will Bagley, Blood of the Prophets: Brigham Young and the Massacre at Mountain Meadows (University of Oklahoma Press, 2002), 246.
- Compare treatment in Blood of the Prophets: p. 246.
FAIR's Response
Response to claim: 210 - Brigham is said to have ordered the cross and cairn at Mountain Meadows torn down
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
Brigham is said to have ordered the cross and cairn at Mountain Meadows torn down.Author's sources: *Wilford Woodruff journal, May 25, 1861.
FAIR's Response
- For a detailed response, see: Brigham Young orders MMM monument demolished?
Response to claim: 213 - The "Godbeites" were "demanding disclosure" about the massacre
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The "Godbeites" were "demanding disclosure" about the massacre.Author's sources: *The author references a series of anonymous letters written under the pseudonym "Argus" that were published in the Utah Reporter between 1870 and 1871.
FAIR's Response
- For a detailed response, see: Anonymous source: "Argus"
Response to claim: 215 - The "entire blame of the massacre was shifted to" John D. Lee's shoulders
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The "entire blame of the massacre was shifted to" John D. Lee's shoulders.Author's sources: Brooks, John Doyle Lee, 296.
FAIR's Response
- For a detailed response, see: Deal with Brigham to blame only Lee?
- For a detailed response, see: Prosecution for Mountain Meadows
Response to claim: 215 - The author claims that Lee was "regaling" his family with "the divinity of Smith and their one true religion"
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
The author claims that Lee was "regaling" his family with "the divinity of Smith and their one true religion."Author's sources: Brooks, Emma Lee, 57.
FAIR's Response
- For a detailed response, see: Joseph Smith's status in LDS belief.
Response to claim: 216 - Former bishop Klingensmith is said to have claimed that the militia was "called out for the purpose of committing acts of hostility" against the emigrants
The author(s) of American Massacre make(s) the following claim:
Former bishop Klingensmith is said to have claimed that the militia was "called out for the purpose of committing acts of hostility" against the emigrants, and that they were ordered to "kill all of said company of emigrants except the little children."Author's sources:
- "A MORMON MONSTROSITY": New York Herald, September 14, 1872. Philip Klingensmith affidavit, April 10, 1871, printed in T.B.H. Stenhouse, Rocky Mountain Saints: a full and complete history of the Mormons, from the first vision of Joseph Smith to the last courtship of Brigham Young (New York: D. Appleton and Company, 1873), 439-442.
- Brooks, Mountain Meadows Massacre, 238-242.
- Backus, Mountain Meadows Witness, 274-277.
- New York Herald, September 14, 1872.
- Compare treatment in Blood of the Prophets: p. 178.
FAIR's Response
- For a detailed response, see: Bishop Philip Klingensmith
Notes