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6 <span style="color:blue">Now the men of war</span> who followed after him <span style="color:blue">were</span> mostly from the state of Tennessee, and <span style="color:blue">men of dauntless courage</span>.
 
6 <span style="color:blue">Now the men of war</span> who followed after him <span style="color:blue">were</span> mostly from the state of Tennessee, and <span style="color:blue">men of dauntless courage</span>.
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However, this passage from the ''Late War'' does not mention "striplings" or "stripling soldiers". In order to find the word "stripling," one must go to back to Chapter 19:32,  or Chapter 28:2:
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''The Late War Chapter 19 (p. 69):
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32 About this time, a <span style="color:blue">stripling</span> from the south, with his weapon of war in his hand, ran up to Zebulon, and spake unto him, saying
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''The Late War, Chapter 28 ():
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2 And the vessels of war of Columbia that were upon the waters of the lake were not yet prepared for the battle; the name of their commander was M'Donough, a <span style="color:blue">stripling.</span>
 
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Question: Did Joseph Smith plagiarize passages from Gilbert Hunt's book The Late War, between the United States and Great Britain, from June, 1812, to February, 1815?

It is claimed that both books mention “striplings” who went to war

Critics' comparison:

  • Book of Mormon, Alma 53:18-20: two thousand of those young men ... to defend their country. ... they took their weapons of war, ... were all young men, and they were exceeding valiant for courage, ...[1]
  • The Late War 35:5-6: two thousand hardy men, who ... fought freely for their country ... Now the men of war ... were ... men of dauntless courage.[2]

Full context comparison: Alma 15꞉18-22:

18 Now behold, there were two thousand of those young men, who entered into this covenant and took their weapons of war to defend their country.

19 And now behold, as they never had hitherto been a disadvantage to the Nephites, they became now at this period of time also a great support; for they took their weapons of war, and they would that Helaman should be their leader.

20 And they were all young men, and they were exceedingly valiant for courage, and also for strength and activity; but behold, this was not all—they were men who were true at all times in whatsoever thing they were entrusted.

21 Yea, they were men of truth and soberness, for they had been taught to keep the commandments of God and to walk uprightly before him.

22 And now it came to pass that Helaman did march at the head of his two thousand stripling soldiers, to the support of the people in the borders of the land on the south by the west sea.

The Late War Chapter 35 (p.126):

5 Immediately Jackson took two thousand hardy men, who were called volunteers, because they had, unsolicited, offered their services to their country, and led them against the savages.

6 Now the men of war who followed after him were mostly from the state of Tennessee, and men of dauntless courage.

However, this passage from the Late War does not mention "striplings" or "stripling soldiers". In order to find the word "stripling," one must go to back to Chapter 19:32, or Chapter 28:2: The Late War Chapter 19 (p. 69):

32 About this time, a stripling from the south, with his weapon of war in his hand, ran up to Zebulon, and spake unto him, saying

The Late War, Chapter 28 ():

2 And the vessels of war of Columbia that were upon the waters of the lake were not yet prepared for the battle; the name of their commander was M'Donough, a stripling.


Notes

  1. Alma 53:18-20
  2. The Late War, 35:5-6. http://wordtreefoundation.github.io/thelatewar/