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Contents

Response to claims made in "Chapter 7: Woe In Ohio"


Claims made in "Chapter 6: No rest for the Righteous"
A FAIR Analysis of:
One Nation Under Gods
A work by author: Richard Abanes
 Claims made in "Chapter 8: Big Trouble In Little Missouri"
Smith decided to solve his economic dilemma by establishing a bank for the purpose of land speculation.
—One Nation Under Gods, p. 135. (paperback edition)
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127 epigraph, 527n1 (PB) - David Whitmer said that Joseph Smith claimed that "[s]ome revelations are of God: some revelations are of man: and some revelations are of the devil"

The author(s) of One Nation Under Gods make(s) the following claim:

David Whitmer said that Joseph Smith claimed that "[s]ome revelations are of God: some revelations are of man: and some revelations are of the devil"

Author's sources:
  • David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, 31.
  • DC 46꞉7

FAIR's Response

Question: How does David Whitmer's account of the attempt to sell the Book of Mormon copyright compare to those of the eyewitnesses?

Book of Mormon Central, KnoWhy #556: Why Did Joseph Smith Attempt to Secure the Book of Mormon Copyright in Canada? (Video)

Whitmer's account is at variance in several ways with Hiram Page’s account

Whitmer's account is at variance in several ways with Hiram Page’s account. Whitmer gets the destination city in Canada wrong (he says Toronto, the other accounts, and the revelation itself, say Kingston) and he did not correctly identify all of the participants (he identified Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery, while Page noted Joseph Knight and Josiah Stowell). Note that the text of the revelation itself finally clears up the issue of exactly who the revelation was directed to,

...it Pleaseth me that Oliver Cowderey Joseph Knight Hyram Pagee & Josiah Stowel shall do my work in this thing...

Page, an eyewitness, makes no mention at disappointment in Joseph Smith, nor is there any mention of a "false prophecy"

Page also makes no mention or even a hint at disappointment in Joseph Smith, nor is there an accusation that the trip was based upon a "false prophecy," so naturally no subsequent "revelation" is noted by Page explaining the mission’s failure.

In Whitmer’s 1887 account we learn for the first time of the supposed post-mission revelation where Joseph Smith is told that some revelations are from God, some from devils, some from men. This account is in all likelihood a fabrication. Unlike his consistent, life-long statements concerning the witness of the Gold Plates, this account, which is probably a second-hand retelling of events 57 years after their occurrence, suddenly appears and is wrong on several of the documentable facts, as well as being inconsistent with the first-hand testimony of Hiram Page, given 40 years earlier than Whitmer and by comparison much closer to the actual event.


Question: How did Latter-day Saint scholars respond to the attempt to sell the Book of Mormon copyright prior to Page's letter coming to light?

Book of Mormon Central, KnoWhy #556: Why Did Joseph Smith Attempt to Secure the Book of Mormon Copyright in Canada? (Video)

B.H. Roberts expressed doubt as to the accuracy of the story, and suggested that David Whitmer may not have recalled all of the details correctly

The letter from 1848 by Hiram Page was not publically available until the 20th Century. As a result, various LDS responses to the accounts by Whitmer and McLellin of necessity must explain why the apparent anomalous revelation does not make Joseph Smith a fallen prophet. Such was the case when B.H. Roberts expressed doubt as to the accuracy of the story, and suggested that David Whitmer may not have recalled all of the details correctly, yet went on to address the claim anyway. Roberts concluded:

Does that circumstance vitiate his claim as a prophet? No; the fact remains that despite this circumstance there exists a long list of events to be dealt with which will establish the fact of divine inspiration operating upon the mind of this man Joseph Smith. The wisdom frequently displayed, the knowledge revealed, the predicted events and the fulfilment thereof, are explicable upon no other theory than of divine inspiration giving guidance to him. [1]

As it happens, the passage of time and the uncovering of additional information has vindicated that confidence.


127-8, 528n5 (PB)

Claim
  • Did Joseph say that "[f]ifty-six years should wind up the scene" before the second coming of Jesus Christ?

Author's source(s)
Response

128-9, 528n10 (PB)

Claim
  • Were the revelations published in the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants "amended, added to, excised, and in some cases assigned different historical settings" as claimed by Michael Marquardt?

Author's source(s)
  • H. Michael Marquardt, The Joseph Smith Revelations: Text & Commentary, xv.
Response

129, 529n14-15 (PB)

Claim
  • Did Joseph break Ohio law by marrying Newel Knight to "undivorced Lydia G. Baily," despite having no license to perform marriages in Ohio?

Author's source(s)
Response
  •  The author's claim is false: No law was broken, and marriage certificates were issued by the state of Ohio; no license was required to perform marriages, since any religious leader had a right to perform marriages in Ohio.
  • Ohio marriages illegal?

129, 529n17 (PB)

Claim
  • Did Joseph perform marriages for people who had not obtained marriage licenses from the State of Ohio?
  • Does History of the Church claim that instead, they were only married "according to the rules and regulations of the Church of the Latter-day Saints?"

Author's source(s)
Response

129, 529n16 (PB)

Claim
  • Was Kirtland, as Fawn Brodie claimed, "full of converts who had left behind them spouses who could not be persuaded to join the church?"

Author's source(s)
Response
  • The author includes a direct, attributed quote from Brodie's book, however, this upon examining the source one finds that this is only Brodie's own opinion—She does not provide a source to back up this claim.

529n16 (PB)

Claim
  •  Author's quote: Disruptions of the family unit and marriage break-ups are often seen among religious groups termed "cults."
  •  Author's quote: [E]x-Mormons have reported that LDS leaders/counselors commonly encourage divorce when the spouse of a faithful Mormon forsakes the faith."

Author's source(s)
  • No sources provided for this claim.
Response
  •  The author's claim is false: Church leaders do not advise divorce under these circumstances.
  • Note that the author takes the opportunity to classify the Church as a "cult" based upon this supposition.
  • Loaded and prejudicial language

130, 530n22 (PB)

Claim
  • Did Levi Lewis claim that Joseph tried to seduce Eliza Winters in 1830?

Author's source(s)
  • Levi Lewis, Susquehanna Register, May 1, 1834 reprinted in Howe, Mormonism Unvailed, 268.
Response

131, 530n23-24 (PB)

Claim
  • Were LDS men encouraged to take plural wives "of the Lamanites and Nephites" in order to make them "white, delightsome and just?"

Author's source(s)
Response

132 (PB)

Claim
  •  Author's quote: "Although Smith never took any Lamanites as wives, he did begin establishing what would gradually become a fairly large harem of young girls and women taken from his flock of 'white and delightsome' disciples."

Author's source(s)
  • No source provided.
Response

132, 530-531n29-36 (PB)

Claim
  • Joseph's first polyamous marriage was with Fanny Alger.

Author's source(s)
Response

133, 531n37-40 (PB)

Claim
  • Did William McLellin report that Joseph and Fanny were found "in the barn together alone...?"

Author's source(s)
Response

133, n42 (PB)

Claim
  • Was the inclusion of the statement on marriage in the 1835 D&C was "an attempt to cover-up the Smith-Alger affair" as the author claims?

Author's source(s)
  • D&C 1835, 251.
Response

135, 531n45 (PB)

Claim
  • Did land specuation in Kirtland "consume" the "thoughts of nearly every Saint, including [Joseph] Smith?"

Author's source(s)
  • Heber C. Kimball, "History of Heber Chase Kimball by his own Dictation," 47-48 quote in Jessee, 397-398.
Response
  • The citation does not support the author's assertion that this involved "nearly every Saint, including Smith."
  • The endnote quotes Kimball as saying, "we were much grieved to see the spirit of speculation prevailing in the church..." Kimball doesn't say anything about Joseph Smith's involvment. He does state that, "all seemed determined to become rich; in my feelings they were artificial or imaginary riches." A more complete quote is included in the endnote.
  • Mind reading

135, 531n46-48 (PB)

Claim
  • Joseph is claimed to have owned one hundred and forty acres of land near the Kirtland temple lot in addition to four acres of business property.

Author's source(s)
  • Robert Kent Fielding, "The Growth of the Mormon Church in Kirtland, Ohio," Unpublished Ph.D. dissertation, Indiana University, 1957, typed copy, 202-204. 206-208, 211-212. Quoted in Jerald and Sandra Tanner, The Mormon Kingdom, vol. 1, 9.
  • Unfortunately, the primary sources used by Fielding and Tanner are not provided.
Response

531n48 (PB)

Claim
  • Was Isaac McWithy brought before the church's High Council on charges of "insolence" after refusing to sell his land to Joseph Smith for $3000?

Author's source(s)
Response

135 (PB)

Claim
  •  Author's quote: "Smith decided to solve his economic dilemma by establishing a bank for the purpose of land speculation."

Author's source(s)
Response

136, 532n51 (PB)

Claim
  • Did Joseph Smith claim that "God told him" to establish the bank in Kirtland?

Author's source(s)
Response

136, 532n54 (PB)

Claim
  • Was the Kirtland anti-bank backed only by boxes "filled with 'sand,lead, old iron, stone, and combustibles" as claimed by Fawn Brodie?

Response
  • This quote is from Brodie, who in turn cites three hostile anti-Mormon sources: Wilhelm Wyl, Mormon Portraits Volume First: Joseph Smith the Prophet, His Family and Friends (Salt Lake City: Tribune Printing and Publishing Co., 1886), 36.; Oliver H. Olney, The Absurdities of Mormonism Portrayed (Hancock County, IL: N.p., 1843), 4.; E. G. Lee, The Mormons, or Knavery Exposed (Frankford, Philadelphia: Webber & Fenimore, 1841), 14. off-site Full title.
  • Who do none of the contemporary complaints about the bank include these charges? Why do they only appear years later?
  • The bank safe was too small to accommodate the boxes described by the critics.
  • Money boxes filled with sand?

136, 532n56 (PB)

Claim
  • Is it true that "[e]veryone's pockets bulged with bills" in Kirtland after the bank was established as asserted by Fawn Brodie?

Author's source(s)
Response
  • The author quotes Brodie's opinion. Brodie provides no citation to back up the assertion that "everyone's pockets bulged with bills."
  • ↑ Brigham H. Roberts, Comprehensive History of the Church (Provo, Utah: Brigham Young University Press, 1965), 1:165. GospeLink
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