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| − | |summary= | + | |summary=Some insist that Joseph Smith's engagement in "money digging" or looking for buried treasure shows itself as a blot on his character. Furthermore, it is argued that Joseph's initial religious experiences were related to "treasure seeking," and only later did he "retrofit" a religious explanation. (Some argue, for example, that Moroni was originally conceived of as a treasure guardian by Joseph, and only later came to be seen as a divine messenger, an angel.) |
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic | ||
|subject=Joseph Smith and the "occult" or "magick" | |subject=Joseph Smith and the "occult" or "magick" | ||
| − | |summary=Citing Joseph Smith's experiences with folk magic, treasure seeking and seer stones, | + | |summary=Citing Joseph Smith's experiences with folk magic, treasure seeking and seer stones, it is claimed that Joseph Smith's spiritual experiences were originally products of magic and the occult. Some charge that only much later did Joseph retrofit his experiences in Christian, religious terms: speaking of God, angels, and prophethood rather than in terms of magic, treasure guardians and scrying. It is also claimed that a "vagabond fortune-teller" named Walters became popular in the Palmyra area, and that when Walters left the area, "his mantle fell upon" Joseph Smith. |
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Early members believed in "witchcraft" | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Early members believed in "witchcraft" | ||
|subject=Early members believed in "witchcraft" | |subject=Early members believed in "witchcraft" | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that early members of the Church believed in witchcraft. They use this to imply or argue that this supports their view of Joseph Smith as involved in "the occult." |
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Book of Mormon recovered on autumnal equinox | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Book of Mormon recovered on autumnal equinox | ||
|subject=Book of Mormon recovered on autumnal equinox | |subject=Book of Mormon recovered on autumnal equinox | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that Joseph Smith's preoccupation with "magick" is supported by the fact that meetings with Moroni and the recovery of the Book of Mormon occurred on the autumnal equinox, a date with astrological and magical significance. |
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Kabbalah influence | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Kabbalah influence | ||
|subject=Joseph influenced by Kabbalah? | |subject=Joseph influenced by Kabbalah? | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that Joseph Smith's religious ideas derived in part from Kabbalah, a type of (usually Jewish) mysticism. |
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Lucy Mack Smith on "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Lucy Mack Smith on "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" | ||
|subject=Lucy Mack Smith on "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" | |subject=Lucy Mack Smith on "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that Lucy Mack Smith's discussion of the "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" is evidence for the strong role which "magick" played in the Smith family's early life. |
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Jupiter talisman | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Jupiter talisman | ||
|subject=Jupiter talisman | |subject=Jupiter talisman | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that Joseph Smith had a Jupiter Talisman on his person when he was martyred and cite this as proof of his fascination with the occult. |
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/The_magician_Walters_as_a_mentor_to_Joseph_Smith | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/The_magician_Walters_as_a_mentor_to_Joseph_Smith | ||
|subject=Magician Walters as a mentor? | |subject=Magician Walters as a mentor? | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that a "vagabond fortune-teller" named Walters became popular in the Palmyra area, and that when Walters left the area, "his mantle fell upon" Joseph Smith. |
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Magick parchments | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Magick parchments | ||
|subject=Magick parchments | |subject=Magick parchments | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that the Smith family owned "magic parchments," suggesting their involvement in the "occult." |
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|link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Mars_dagger | |link=Joseph Smith/Occultism and magic/Mars_dagger | ||
|subject=Mars dagger | |subject=Mars dagger | ||
| − | |summary= | + | |summary=It is claimed that the Smith's owned a magic dagger that was among Hyrum Smith's heirlooms. They cite this as proof of the Smith family's deep involvement in ritual magick. |
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Contents
"Magic" in Mormon history
Joseph Smith and legal trials
Summary: Concluded one author at a FAIR conference: "Joseph Smith was persecuted in courts of law as much as anyone I know. But he was never found guilty of any crime, and his name cannot be tarnished in that way."- 1826 trial—
Brief Summary: Joseph Smith was brought to trial in 1826 for "glasslooking." What is the background to the trial? Why is the 1971 discovery of the Neely and De Zeng bills significant? Didn't Hugh Nibley claim that if this trial record existed that it would be "the most damning evidence in existence against Joseph Smith?" (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗
- 1826 trial—
Joseph Smith and money digging
Summary: Some insist that Joseph Smith's engagement in "money digging" or looking for buried treasure shows itself as a blot on his character. Furthermore, it is argued that Joseph's initial religious experiences were related to "treasure seeking," and only later did he "retrofit" a religious explanation. (Some argue, for example, that Moroni was originally conceived of as a treasure guardian by Joseph, and only later came to be seen as a divine messenger, an angel.)Joseph Smith and the "occult" or "magick"
Summary: Citing Joseph Smith's experiences with folk magic, treasure seeking and seer stones, it is claimed that Joseph Smith's spiritual experiences were originally products of magic and the occult. Some charge that only much later did Joseph retrofit his experiences in Christian, religious terms: speaking of God, angels, and prophethood rather than in terms of magic, treasure guardians and scrying. It is also claimed that a "vagabond fortune-teller" named Walters became popular in the Palmyra area, and that when Walters left the area, "his mantle fell upon" Joseph Smith.- Early members believed in "witchcraft"—
Brief Summary: It is claimed that early members of the Church believed in witchcraft. They use this to imply or argue that this supports their view of Joseph Smith as involved in "the occult." (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗ - Book of Mormon recovered on autumnal equinox—
Brief Summary: It is claimed that Joseph Smith's preoccupation with "magick" is supported by the fact that meetings with Moroni and the recovery of the Book of Mormon occurred on the autumnal equinox, a date with astrological and magical significance. (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗ - Joseph influenced by Kabbalah?—
Brief Summary: It is claimed that Joseph Smith's religious ideas derived in part from Kabbalah, a type of (usually Jewish) mysticism. (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗ - Lucy Mack Smith on "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles"—
Brief Summary: It is claimed that Lucy Mack Smith's discussion of the "faculty of Abrac" and "magic circles" is evidence for the strong role which "magick" played in the Smith family's early life. (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗ - Jupiter talisman—
Brief Summary: It is claimed that Joseph Smith had a Jupiter Talisman on his person when he was martyred and cite this as proof of his fascination with the occult. (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗ - Magician Walters as a mentor?—
Brief Summary: It is claimed that a "vagabond fortune-teller" named Walters became popular in the Palmyra area, and that when Walters left the area, "his mantle fell upon" Joseph Smith. (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗ - Magick parchments—
Brief Summary: It is claimed that the Smith family owned "magic parchments," suggesting their involvement in the "occult." (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗ - Mars dagger—
Brief Summary: It is claimed that the Smith's owned a magic dagger that was among Hyrum Smith's heirlooms. They cite this as proof of the Smith family's deep involvement in ritual magick. (Click here for full article)∗ ∗ ∗
- Early members believed in "witchcraft"—
Seer stones, use of
Summary: What can you tell me about Joseph's seer stone? What is its relation to the "Urim and Thummim"? Did Joseph place his seer stone in his hat while he was translating the Book of Mormon?